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HRM Communities
Hello! There are, if you want to know, 217 communities and neighbourhoods in HRM, including the planning areas, and the neighbourhoods or villages inside those planning areas.

No one is saying that all of HRM is "halifax" we are in the middle of trying to introduce the clarity to these articles you clearly are looking for.

Here are the communities & neighbourhoods you were looking for:

Antrim Bald Rock Barkhouse Settlement Bayside Bear Cove Beaver Bank Beaver Dam Beaver Dam Beaver Harbour Bedford Bedford Beechville Black Point Blind Bay Boutiliers Point Brookvale Caribou Mines Carroll's Corner Chaplin Chaswood Chebucto Peninsula Chezzetcook Clam Bay Clam Harbour Cole Harbour Cole Harbour Cole Harbour/Westphal College Lake Conrod Settlement Cooks Brook Cow Bay Cow Bay/Eastern Passage Dartmouth Dartmouth Dean Debaies Cove Development Statistics Devils Island Downtown Dartmouth Downtown Dartmouth Duncan Cove Dutch Settlement East Chezzetcook East Dover East Jeddore East Lawrencetown East Loon Lake East Pennant East Petpeswick East Preston East Quoddy East Ship Harbour Eastern Passage Eastern Shore East Eastern Shore West Ecum Secum Ecum Secum Bridge Ecum Secum West Elderbank Elmsdale Elmsvale Enfield English Point Fall River Fergusons Cove French Village Gaetz Brook Glen Haven Glen Margaret Glenmore Goffs Goodwood Governor Lake Grand Desert Grand Lake Greenwood Hacketts Cove Halibut Bay Halifax Halifax (Mainland) Halifax (Peninsula) Hammonds Plains Hammonds Plains/Upper Sackville/Beaver Bank Harrietsfield Harrigan Cove Hartlin Settlement Hatchet Lake Head Of Chezzetcook Head Of Jeddore Head Of St. Margarets Bay Herring Cove Higginsville Homelessness Reports Hubley Indian Harbour Ingramport Ketch Harbour Kinsac Lake Charlotte Lake Echo Lake Echo/ Porters Lake Lake Egmont Lake Fletcher Lakeside Lakeview Lawrencetown Lewis Lake Lindsay Lake Liscombe Sanctuary Little Harbour Lochaber Mines Long Lake Loon Lake Lower Prospect Lower Ship Harbour Lucasville Malay Falls Marinette Mcgraths Cove McNabs Island Meaghers Grant Meeting Notices Middle Musquodoboit Middle Village Milford Mill Lake Minesville Mineville Mitchell Bay Moose River Gold Mines Moosehead Mooseland Moser River Murchyville Murphys Cove Mushaboom Musquodoboit Harbour Musquodoboit Valley\ Dutch Settlement Myers Point Necum Teuch North & East Preston North Preston Oakfield Oldham Ostrea Lake Otter Lake Owls Head Oyster Pond Pace Settlement Peggy's Cove Pleasant Harbour Pleasant Point Pleasant Valley Popes Harbour Port Dufferin Porters Lake Portugese Cove Prospect Prospect Prospect Bay Queensland Sackville Sackville Drive Salmon River Bridge Sambro Sambro Creek Sambro Head Sandy Cove Sandy Cove Seabright Seaforth See a list of communities Shad Bay Shearwater Sheet Harbour Sheet Harbour Passage Ship Harbour Shubenacadie Lakes Simms Settlement Smiths Settlement Sober Island South Section Southwest Cove Spry Bay Spry Harbour St.Margaret's Bay Stillwater Lake Tangier Tantallon Ten Mile Lake Terence Bay Terence Bay River Three Fathom Harbour Timberlea Timberlea/ Lakeside/ Beechville Upper Lakeville Upper Lawrencetown Upper Musquodoboit Upper Tantallon Watt Section Waverley Waverley Wellington West Chezzetcook West Dover West Jeddore West Lawrencetown West Pennant West Petpeswick West Porters Lake West Quoddy Westphal Westphal Whites Lake Williamswood Windsor Junction Wyse's Corner WayeMason 01:36, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Halifax
I'm not sure I understand you, can you explain what you ment. My only edits to the article were basically to protect it. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 09:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Halifax too
Listen, no one is going to delete the articles about Halifax, Dartmouth, etc... there will ALSO be an article about the urban area of HRM. WayeMason 10:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Halifax urban area
I am trying to be civil and a good wikipedian here, but please, read the article before you revert again. The urban core is part of Dartmouth inside of the circumferential and the peninsula, the urban area what used to be metro Halifax, its Dartmouth, Halifax (both parts) Bedford and a big chunk of the former county. The article is about the HALIFAX URBAN AREA as defined by HRM and statscan and also as defined by wikipedia's own urban area article. It is not about the URBAN CORE of HRM, as defined by HRM. I know you have your agenda about HRM and you feel I have mine, but it is bad wiki for you to write a misleading description about the article in the disambig page, when you are talking about one thing, and the article as about another.WayeMason 02:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

HRM article request for help
Hey there. While editing last weekend I realized we are both correct. HRM uses "urban core" and "urban area" differently depending on which department of HRM is using the term. As we have been saying for 2.5 years on the Halifax pages, the reason the Halifax pages are confusing is because it is confusing in real life. I suggest the following things. The Halifax urban area article should be renamed the "Metropolitan Halifax" article, which brings it in line with the wikipedia definition of a metro area. The second is that we should write an explanation, probably in paragraph form, of the different and conflicting terms used to describe communities and areas in the HRM. The question is, where does this explanation go? The HRM page? The urban area page? Is it its own article? Thoughts? WayeMason 10:53, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The Metro Halifax area has allways been where Halifax urban area was even before 1996. The communities and areas are different in the fact that the communities are areas defined for place names and civic addreessing . ex. Sambro ,Dartmoth, Halifax ,Devon, Devils Island etc they the common names you see on a map.Look at the GIS map for the different communities.Planing Areas are used in the planning department. . Western, Eastern and Central Region are used for road and Street Maintenance . Urban Core well Regional Council has a versio and winter parking has another . Than there are the 23 political districts.

There is no universal areas they use for the whole government. Dartmouth for example is in the eastern region for streets and roads ,part of the metropolion area of Halifax, in the Dartmouth Downtown and Datmouth planning areas ' in districts 5 to 9 , in the urban core for winter parking and the area is part of the urban core inside HWY.111 .confusing

Halifax
I've attempted to make a first draft of a new Halifax, Nova Scotia article, in my userspace here. It's in a very rough-and-ready form, and needs a lot of tidying, sorting, and being made consistent, as well as a proper opening, before it's ready. But it should give an idea as to what I believe that article should contain. Please take a look at it. Thanks, --RFBailey 19:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Following your recent edit, please note that there is now a second version, User:RFBailey/Halifax2. --RFBailey 17:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this edit, but do you really think a long list of telephone exchanges is encyclopaedic information? I'm not convinced that it's necessary.  --RFBailey 17:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

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April 2014
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 * 31224&amp;lastplace=31224 Nova Scotia Place Names] and the civic addressing office of HRM http://www.halifax.ca/civicaddress/  ,the area is referred to as "Halifax, Nova Scotia" for civic addressing and as a placename.
 * Halifax Port Authority Media Fact Sheet

HRM
Hi there, I get what you're saying in your edit summarys about where the link should be former city rather than new city, but there are some articles where you are still linking the Halifax Regional Municipality article. Putting it in wikilinks is only going to cause a redirection to the changed name article, so if there are articles where you want the HRM to still appear, you should include the pipe link to the new name to avoid causing redirections. That's all I'm trying to do is avoid redirections, but if you insist on reverting me everytime I fix the redirection, than I'll just backoff and let the confusion run its course. There has always been confusion around the Halifax articles and I doubt changing the name of the HRM article is going to stop the confusion overnight. I've noticed there are also articles about urban Halifax, metro Halifax, mainland Halifax, resulting in more confusion. Do you know what the difference between them is? Cmr08 (talk) 23:50, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Halifax, Nova Scotia Hatnote conflict
Hi there - you and I and User:Ego White Tray have been changing around the hatnote on Halifax, Nova Scotia. We should stop wasting each other's time, and discuss it on the talk page. I've started the discussion. I invite you to contribute. AshleyMorton (talk) 13:49, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello! I see that you've changed the hatnote to the article again. I really would like you to contribute to the discussion on the article's talk page. To be blunt, at the moment there's unanimous opposition to the changes you're making, but it's really difficult because you aren't explaining them or joining the discussion. If you keep doing that, you will likely just get reverted. However, that would be a tremendous waste of energy, because I certainly believe that you're an energetic person who's honestly trying to make the encyclopedia better. So - join the debate (be ready to have people disagree, of course!), and demonstrate why your version is better. AshleyMorton (talk) 02:58, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

There is Halifax, Nova Scotia that is actually Halifax Regional Municipality' and no matter how popular it is the legal name of the article Halifax, Nova Scotiarepresent is still today is Halifax Regional Municipality nothing changed except the logo. Now where the Halifax (former city) isthe present community that is a legal General Service Area placename of Nova Scotia according to www.halifax.ca the website of Halifax Regional Municipality. But Halifax Regional Municipality is Municipality not a placename like Dartmouth ,Bedford and the other GSA's of Nova Scotia. This is the problem the facts are getting lost the this consensus where people do not get the facts behind the article. 19960401 14:26, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi - I'm afraid you underestimate at least me, and I think others involved in this discussion, too. We really do understand what's going on here. I follow municipal government issues closely, participate in public consultations, and discuss things with Councillors when I have the opportunity. I'm afraid that you've gotten stuck on the idea that the legal name should be the name of the article, and that GSAs matter (they really don't, to most people). Wikipedia policy is clear: Legal names are not the names of articles (unless there is a good reason). To be blunt, I know what I'm talking about. I'm not saying that I'm always right - far from it. Just that you say "...people do not get the facts behind the article" and we do - we really do. You seem to be constantly ignoring the Wikipedia policy - I've never seen you discuss it. I really think that you should read it, and explain why your point of view is in line with it (or why this requires an exception.)


 * Also, on the hatnote specifically - because of the consensus on the talk page, I will be changing it back to delete your input. I might not have done this if you had joined the discussion on the talk page and convinced me (and others) of the merits of your version. AshleyMorton (talk) 14:39, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Oops, someone beat me to it. The rest of my statement holds, though.AshleyMorton (talk) 14:40, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Edits surrounding the identity of various places and topics close to Halifax, Nova Scotia
Hi there. I see that you and I have both been very active in editing around Halifax, Nova Scotia - related articles lately. I see that a lot of the time, you're focussing on maintaining a distinction based on the General Service Areas. I'm afraid that this is somewhat counterproductive. As shown by the strong majority vote on the move request, that's not the way that Wikipedia works. Just because a distinction exists doesn't mean that it that it's the most important distinction. It is really important that the concept of the place "Halifax" not be constantly divided along previously-existing boundaries just because we can. *That's* way more confusing than talking about the place in general, and then talking about subdivisions *when they're relevant*. This is the case with all other metro articles - the primary article is about the place in general, and then other internal subdivisions have secondary articles, or no article at all. I really think that you should back up your understanding and try to convince the community (me included!) of your version of the system, rather than continuing to push through with a bunch of reverts and so on. I really do believe that I'm open to listen to your idea, but you're going to have to convince me that we need Halifax to be different than everything else on Wikipedia. AshleyMorton (talk) 13:59, 29 April 2014 (UTC) To start the title of Halifax Regional Municipality should not have been changed because the real name accord its website www.halifax.ca is Halifax Regional Munipality not Haifax  I do not see the article for the Cape Breton Regional Municipality is curtainly not Cape Breton  .According to the rule its not  what the popular name is its what the real name. The same with copyrights its what the legal use of an image is not up to debate to nor is it whether the severs are in the United States or not its the legal aspect of the use of the image that is at play here. Communities and placenames in Nova Scotia are called General Service Areas `they are the legal placename in Nova Scotia and as the article states they are not municipalities like the Halifax Regional Municipalities nor is a municipality is always placename Places like Canso are placenames they were municipalities but the fact is its still a placename Same goes as Halifax in area where the old city was. That area never lost its identity nor today that area expanded where people are mislead to believe that Halifax, Nova Scotia is not interchangeable with Halifax Regional Municipality nor is HRM legally nor in reality a placename. This is where people are not doing the research and where basing on popularity is wrong 19960401 15:02, 29 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure that I understand your point - you believe that "legal" placenames are the same thing as "real" placenames, and that they are the only ones that should be used. However, that is not Wikipedia policy. In fact Wikipedia policy is clearly and directly opposite to that. The "Article Titles" policy is available here: WP:COMMONNAME, and it is crystal clear: "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." I think that your fight is with that policy. I mean, you might have a better idea - you can go ahead and change it, and then debate it on that talk page. However, until then, I think that we should follow the policy, or justify our exceptions. I have never heard a good argument about why this article should be different from every other similar article. I completely agree with you, this is not about "popularity" - it's about reliable sources. The votes to change the article name were based on those, not on what we thought was cool. If you disagree, you can propose another move. However, until that happens, the community has been clear.AshleyMorton (talk) 15:31, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

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May 2015
I have reverted your edit to Halifax See WP:COMMONNAME We've been through this before, I believe. Regards,  Aloha27   talk  22:35, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

You removed the "notability" tag. I have readded it. The reason for my flagging the stub article can be seen at [] Regards,  Aloha27   talk  23:48, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

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