User talk:247ice

June 2022
Per my previous comment, changing the redirect Epikh Pro to an essentially unsourced biographical article about a subject who may not be notable (see WP:NMUSIC) was not the ideal approach here. I recommend working on the article in the Draft namespace, i.e., at Draft:Epikh Pro. I've also (twice) moved the unsourced discography from Epikh Pro Discography to Draft:Epikh Pro discography. Please do not recreate it in/move it to the Article namespace until such time it is a viable article, i.e., if the subject is notable and a separate discography page is warranted and contains sourced content. Thank you. -- Kinu t/c 09:38, 25 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the information. This information is all very much a work in progress, and I have been assigned to update this grammy nominated, multi-platinum producer. I was not aware how to change/move the article from Draft to published. It was my intention to keep this article in the drafts until completely sourced. Is the page going to keep reverting to published if I continue working on it? I will try to save my work into a draft. I would hate to lose all my work thus far. 247ice (talk) 10:28, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * For further clarification, is it possible for you to convert this page (Epikh Pro Discography) back into a draft for me, along with this (Epikh Pro) page?. I noticed it went straight away into being published (definitely not intentional) because the article should not be live until it is completed with all sources. The producer S1 (Symbolyc One) is an entirely different person, so the redirect was inaccurate and requested for deletion in order to draft Epikh Pro's article. I did not originally intend for either of these pages to go live until completed. I see I have messed that up. 247ice (talk) 10:32, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the several questions. I spent a long time gathering information for the discography section. Could you please move the most recent version of both pages (especially the Discography) to drafts? The draft version I have left is not the latest one I saved with much more information added. Thank you. 247ice (talk) 10:49, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. I have properly moved the most recent version of both the biographical article and the discography to the relevant locations at the Draft namespace (Draft:Epikh Pro and Draft:Epikh Pro discography, respectively). You may continue to work on them there. -- Kinu t/c 19:48, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help, I will get these improved and corrected. 247ice (talk) 22:56, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Epikh Pro Discography


The article Epikh Pro Discography has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Repeatedly-recreated unsourced discography for a producer and songwriter whose notability is not established. I have moved this to Draft namespace twice but the original author keeps recreating it, despite messages at their talk page and at WP:EF. Full disclosure: I am the editor who removed the article about the subject (i.e., I converted back to a redirect) as in its latest form it met the criteria for WP:CSD."

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Kinu t/c 09:57, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, 247ice. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Epikh Pro, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the request edit template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Conflict of interest);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Spam);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. If you have been assigned to update this article, please disclose your employer. SailingInABathTub (talk) 11:54, 25 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the clarification. I am not being paid to write an article on this subject or any subject matters. I have no relation to the subject, I do however, have interest in musicians, upcoming news, producers, and music policy. I am not employed by the subject. Nor am I a part of a PR company. The reason this article needs to be created is due to the misinformation by the redirect link to another producer. I misspoke by using the term "assigned" to update an article. I self-assigned, as in chose to do so, when I noticed that a recent publication was written on the subject, and as I looked the notable subject matter up, noticed they are discredited to Symbolyc One (who is an entirely different person) and completely missing an intelligible page. The subject is also credited as producer to Don't and a plethora of other music topics. All noteworthy and valid. Please note that due to the fact I am not employed by a media company or PR team, if not evident due to my mistakes, I also am very novice at making Wikipedia edits, therefore my actions flagged user Kinu to take adverse actions. I was not aware that he kept moving the page to drafts, as every edit I made pushed it back to published. I wanted it to stay a draft. My original intent was to make steady updates to the subject matter and their pages, in draft only version. I may have accidentally published, when none of these pages were ready to be submitted, as they are not fully cited yet... please let me know if you have any concerns or questions. Thank you. 247ice (talk) 12:26, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * For the record, the "publication" you linked to above is a press release, which is fairly obvious from the tone and is indicated at the bottom. I would recommend reading the guidelines on reliable sources and the notability criteria for music as you attempt to improve this draft. -- Kinu <i style="color: red">t</i>/<i style="color:red">c</i> 22:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that. I had not clocked that, I'll read the guidelines before I improve the draft and add citations. 247ice (talk) 22:58, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Epikh Pro discography
Hello, 247ice. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Epikh Pro discography, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Epikh Pro
Hello, 247ice. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Epikh Pro, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 18:01, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Epikh Pro discography


Hello, 247ice. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Epikh Pro discography".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 22:09, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Epikh Pro


Hello, 247ice. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Epikh Pro".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 17:06, 26 December 2022 (UTC)