User talk:25 Cents FC/Archive 1

Indian Railways
You asked me to look at the Indian Railways article with a view to a GA nomination. You said "despite...citations" as if you want me to review this neglecting the lack of citations. This is not possible, or at least would be a wasted effort, verification is at the heart of what makes material suitable for Wikipedia and citations are the means of providing this. It is pointless doing cleanup on unreferenced prose because when references are found the prose may well need to be completely rewritten to comply with the sources.

As far as GA is concerned, the maintenance template at the top of the article needs dealing with as that is cause for an instant speedy fail. It is not just a case of removing the template: numerous facts do not have citations. One example, "With approximately 1.36 million permanent employees, Indian Railways is the world's second largest employer" needs a citation. It also begs the question who are they second behind? Possibly this was in fn#14 (following sentence) but that is now a deadlink. There is also a problem that there is disagreement with the figure in the article lede. In general the lede does not need citations as it should be merely summarising the body of the article. This is just one example, the entire article needs going through and all the sources should be checked for deadlinks and other problems (you can use the Checklinks tool).

The lede is not a good summary of the article (fails GA 1b), see WP:LEAD. The history section is a bit short and might possibly fail GA criterion 3a. The locomotives section could say a little bit more too. There is coverage of the divisions of Indian Railways but not much is said about the network - principle routes, main hubs, possibly a map.

You might want to consider asking for a copyedit of the article (but sort the referencing first). There are numerous places a copyedit will improve this, and some where it hard to understand the sense of the text, example; "the seats usually made up of pressed wood, but the cushioned seats have been rapidly replaced".

GA 1b requires compliance with WP:EMBED. You might want to consider whether some of the tables would be better off as prose.

The section under "References" called "Popular sources" look to me as if they should be under external links. They do not seem to be referencing anything. In any case there needs to be some severe pruning there. Indian Railways Fan Club seems a dubious external link. If not removed altogether, the numerous links should be reduced to one page from which the user can navigate. Many other external links need pruning.

Hope that is of some help.  Spinning Spark  18:38, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure why you removed all of this. Perhaps you only intended to remove the gallery.  Spinning Spark  16:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * In response to your post on my talk page, it would be best to first discuss the images with other editors on the article's talk page. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 23:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

F.I.R. (TV series)
I am not really interested in reviewing media articles like F.I.R. (TV series). I have no idea whether or not the program is notable, but it is almost entirely unsourced which is a problem in itself. The one reference there is points to a nomination for the Indian Telly Awards. I really have no idea how much notability that confers in India, but I would presume it is enough to justify an article.  Spinning Spark  16:47, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Adding reference on wiki articles
Hello 25 Cents FC! Please do not forget to add references for the content you add to Wikipedia. Adding a well formatted references is very easy to do. This will add a well formatted reference that would be helpful in case the website link (web URL) becomes inactive (dead/link rot) after some time. thanks and regards -- Ð ℬig XЯaɣ   07:08, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) While editing any article or a wikipage, on the top of the edit window you will see a toolbar which says "cite" click on it
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 * 3) Choose the most appropriate template and fill as many details as you can,


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Talkback
 Ð ℬig XЯaɣ   07:30, 2 June 2012 (UTC) again -- Ð ℬig XЯaɣ   10:11, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

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User Page
Never seen such a fabulous user page.copying some contents 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 07:20, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not able to put that page notice "Welcome,No rules Just a warm welcome, and a nice cup of tea." on my user talk. How to do that ?? 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 07:25, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * When you click on Edit on your talkpage, there will appear top right of the edit box two red links Group notice and Page notice. Click on Page notice and then copy and paste this:




 * You can adjust the text and select a different image if you want. Enjoy!  SilkTork   ✔Tea time  09:55, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * where's those two red links, unable to find. Because you know where are they, Will you please paste it on my user talkpage..!!! 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 10:07, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Click on Edit at the top of your talkpage. You will see something like:

Group notice  Page notice


 * Click on the Page notice.  SilkTork   ✔Tea time  17:15, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm not getting what problem happened with this.Please settle it. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 16:22, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * If you need general advice or help with any aspect of editing Wikipedia, then type on your talkpage, and someone will attempt to help you.  SilkTork   ✔Tea time  17:19, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Help
Hi, I'm not getting what problem happened with .Please settle it. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 16:22, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem is that the clip is too long. Music samples should be a maximum of 30 seconds long, or 10% of the song's length if it is shorter than 5 minutes. You can find out more about using music samples here. Danger! High voltage! 20:19, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Page notice


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Talkback
- again -- Ð ℬig XЯaɣ   09:45, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you follow the reply on my talk ? did it install ? any problem now ? -- Ð ℬig XЯaɣ   12:43, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * in response to the mail. ok go ahead. i guess it would be faster that way. you can always change-- Ð ℬig XЯaɣ   14:42, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ It should work now, if not then make sure to bypass your browser cache. Please respond after checking-- Ð ℬig  XЯaɣ   17:51, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes it's working. Thanks a lot...!!! 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 17:54, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * you are welcome-- Ð ℬig XЯaɣ   17:58, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Good to see that you are making good use of twinkle. I hope it has made things a bit easier for you. to know about the other features you can always visit wp:Twinkle/doc, I hope you must be already aware of these but it would be helpful if you can read the articles wp:VANDAL and wp:AGF. It is important to be able to differentiate between these two, and use the corresponding twinkle button. Keep in touch, would be glad to help you out again if you face any problem. Happy editing. cheers--Ð ℬig  XЯaɣ  19:06, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

but the page history says you have made a number of edits to that article ? how can that be if you are unable to see, how did you made the edits then ? -- D ℬig Xray   18:38, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

-- D ℬig Xray   10:28, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Your revert at Indian Railways
If you can't read the discussion that I have cited, then I am sorry. Per the discussion, we have come to a consensus not to include any scripts. Besides there is no such thing as National language in India. Period! &mdash;  Abhishek  Talk 11:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Go through this discussion thoroughly. If you revert again, you'd end up engaging in an edit war. &mdash;  Abhishek  Talk 12:03, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

An Invite to join the WikiProject Railways in India
naveenpf (talk) 07:39, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you so much for the barnstar, but I must let you know that i am not an Admin here on wikipedia. the admins barnstar is give to admins for their work, but nothing to feel bad, as you are new here and its perfectly normal to be unaware of these things. You can change the barnstar and give again. regards-- D ℬig Xray   11:23, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

added list here -- D ℬig Xray   15:48, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I guess the guidance WP:Barnstar would be more appropriate (see the link) but after all its your message and your feelings that matters most, not the image :) regrds-- D ℬig Xray   11:31, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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 * Thanks a lot.such supports always helps for novice editors like me.(I found one more) Keep Encouraging me 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 15:02, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Removing Sourced content from Articles
Hi Cents, I hope you are enjoying your editing experience here. I saw a mojor removal of content here from one of my watchlisted articles. Although i neither approve nor oppose this removal of content, but I felt I must remind you, that removal of content or blanking needs to be done carefully. I must appreciate that your Edit summary was good, but it is advisable that while removing well sourced content that you do not agree with, you should copy paste the content that you have removed to the talk page with a sepereate section explaining why you have removed it. this will help the editors in future. regards-- D ℬig Xray   14:58, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi,i've mentioned in edit history.Nevertheless i'll do it on talk page also.give me a second. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 15:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I saw your comment, i have moved the content from the old version of the article from the history to the talk page. you may take a look to understand how to do it properly. The sources/references are as important as the content, do not censor them while moving. regards -- D ℬig Xray   15:18, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


 * oh yes of course,thnks i really have to learn lots of things 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 15:27, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I do hope you have already taken a look at the WP:Tutorial, by the way, There are citations for Talk:Uttar_Pradesh only thing was Syed forgot to add at the end of his content so it was not visible then , you can check it and verify , regards-- D ℬig  Xray   15:33, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * you might also wanna take a look at WP:NOCITE-- D ℬig Xray   15:43, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I have added a side bar here,. it has various policies, you can take a look at them slowly one by one, to help yourself learn then so that you do not make a mistake regarding policies, will be glad to answer your questions in case of doubts-- D ℬig Xray   15:48, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

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Pakistanis in China
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Talkback
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Re:A beer for you!
Thank you so much for the drink and for the appreciation. I've not yet started working on PST as was quite busy with my official work at my organization. I'll start to work soon on that. Will you be interested on the article.?-- ...Msrag talk2me 11:18, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Of course...!!! --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 12:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

 * HI,everything is fine here.currently working for this page. I've made some changes also,or i must say, completely rewritten 5 section of the article viz. section 2 to 6.1 --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 16:39, 20 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thats great, I am glad that you are taking care of the page. It was regularly edited by a lot of users new as well as old and was frequently often vandalized. It is currently assessed as C, with some work you can easily get a GA article from UP -- D Big X ray   17:12, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Request for protection of Lucknow
Hi 25 Cents FC. I have removed your request for indefinite page protection of Lucknow at WP:RPP. You are requesting that an article be permenantly locked from editing becuase of a single edit by an IP, which was not even vandalism but merely an unsourced addition. Referring to the IP editor as a "racist" also constituted a personal attack. Please remember to assume good faith, and do not file frivolous requests like this in future. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 10:10, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, sorry for the Referring to the IP editor as a "racist".I did because the whole article looks very confusing and it isn't seems encyclopedic. Majority of the edits has been done by IP editor. But anyways I apologies.   --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 10:19, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * There are certainly a lot of problems with the article as it stands, but they can be fixed (see Ahmedabad currently at GA review, to see how it is in fact possible to write encyclopedic articles on Indian cities!). IP editing is often par for the course on such pages. It can be easy to overreact in the heat of the moment, and I understand your frustration; just be aware that RPP is for dealing with persistent vandalism, not one-off dubious edits. Apology unneccessary, but accepted, and thank you for the beer! Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 10:37, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Cents, wiki community is strict with regards to WP:NPA and expects editors to be wp:CIVIL Yunshui has already explained, to which I agree. As you are new, there may be mistakes no doubt, this being one of them. But there are ways to avoid it. Such as asking for a second opinion from me or using helpme or you can even ask on WP:HELPDESK (or use chat at WP:IRC ) they will provide you the best suggestion on how to deal with things you are not sure about. After some time with experience such mistakes will not occur. an Important thing to understand is asking questions is always encouraged. Do no feel shy to ask, Even admins go for second opinion from others on things they are not very sure about. I hope you are spending time looking at the pages in guideline list. They are very helpful.
 * as you are aware of the term vandal. Its time to check out the page WP:VANDAL to be sure what can be called vandalism and what can be called good faith edit and how to deal with it properly. regards-- D Big X ray  10:42, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * As for the reference about the bus system, its advised to follow suggestions on WP:NOCITE and use, may be the IP was right and he had read it some where, or some printed newspapers. Indeed he might be was right actually
 * Look what a google search on "Bus Rapid Transit Lucknow" gave me
 * http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-06-20/lucknow/32334820_1_brts-project-bus-rapid-transport-system-akhilesh-yadav
 * http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/2012/06/19/383--Panel-formed-on-Lucknow-bus-transit-system-.html
 * http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/highlevel-panel-to-examine-brts-option-for-lucknow/964276/ -- D Big X ray  10:50, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I think, adding is a better idea than reverting or roll backing etc. I appreciate all you People's guidance. --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS (talk) 11:13, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually it depends on situation as well. If you have a very good reason and you are aware that it is vandalism then you may go ahead and revert it. But reverting unsourced info by labelling it as vandalism is incorrect (as i have shown above). The IP user may not know the importance of sources and refs. That is why i have advised you to check out wp:VANDAL and Vandalism to be sure about it. -- D Big X ray   11:50, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * OMG what happened ? -- D Big X ray  15:47, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * hehe..All is well.I've weak wit of gumptious. so just written -- 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS Be Calm 16:27, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * YOU'RE WELCOME 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  Be Calm 06:41, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

This might be helpful
Do have a look here, You will surely learn some more things. -- D Big X ray  06:22, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

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Talkback
Oh my goodness, Please read WP:POV and WP:PUFFERY to understand about the neutral point of view. words such as fascinating are not neutral.  D Big X ray  05:16, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ Thank you. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ϟ  05:37, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

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 * I left note on discussion page. Thank You  25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ϟ   05:52, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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