User talk:8-leaf clover

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Original research at Orange (colour)
Thank you for including an edit summary in your revert (diff) of the hex color value at Orange (colour). This is very helpful to other editors who collaborate on the article. In your edit summary for that edit you said:
 * 80 is almost always taken as the midpoint between 00 and FF, because it's a round number, plus the fact that 80 + 80 = 100 (256 in decimal) (the total number of values that red, green, and blue pixels can take), while 7F+7F=FE (254 in decimal)

but this is something that we call "original research" at Wikipedia, which is invalid in any article at Wikipedia. Putting it in other words: no editor may use their own theories or their own logic for determining what goes into an article, no matter how logical it seems. We *must* follow what the reliable sources say.

The burden of proof to provide citations to reliable sources is on the editor adding or changing material in an article. When you changed the hex value, the burden was on you to provide citations, so you should have included some citation that supported your content; simply theorizing in the edit summary about it isn't sufficient. When I changed the hex value again just now, the burden was on me. So, I added a citation to the source that Wikipedia recommends (it's the standard W3C CSS3 Color Module recommended at WikiProject Color/Sources for Color Coordinates, and linked from the Infobox colour template in the section; see "source" in the table). The value for "orange" at W3C can be found in the W3C colour table here. Numerous other web resources also confirm this, such as Color Hexa or Encycolorpedia, and I added citations to those as well, but actually that's a bit of overkill, because just the citation to the recommended W3C Color Module is sufficient.

Thanks, and if you believe I've made a mistake, please raise a discussion at the article talk page, or contact me at my user talk page. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 21:51, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia leaves you a task
Could You Translate The Page Primary Colors in Psychology to Spanish Wikipedia a page translation will help you improve on Wikipedia 2806:103E:B:B385:C2A:96E7:F766:8B49 (talk) 22:39, 14 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello. I started translating the article a few days ago, but I think that the article needs more sources to be published. The Spanish Wikipedia's administrators are really strict with that, and they may block my account if I do it. But I think that if I don't include the unsourced parts it will be just fine. 8-leaf clover (talk) 22:35, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Hello.
Hey, could you help me improve the Article Primary Colors in Psychology You can check the external links and get more information and add it to the Article 2806:103E:B:55D0:7D77:3551:9153:BEF4 (talk) 06:02, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Help me
If you really like color theory, could you help me to find more information in Primary Colors in Psychology, either by searching Google for information on Primary Colors in Psychology or if you can't find almost any information, replace the name and search for Psychological Primary Colors and you can also consult more information in the external links of Primary Colors in Psychology Galansi (talk) 17:33, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Original research at Shades of violet
You were previously advised about the importance of citing sources and not engaging in original research on color articles. This is a reminder and a warning not to engage in speculative writing in Wikipedia articles, and to ensure that everything you add to articles is WP:Verifiable. Further edits of this type may be viewed as WP:DISRUPTIVE. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 00:50, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Munsell hues
Hi 8-leaf clover, I reverted your Munsell hues diagram at Munsell color system. Not trying to step on your toes here, but I think your diagram gives a false impression of Munsell's goal. Munsell's purpose with his numerical color ordering was to get away from a concept of specific color names, "secondary" hues, etc., which he thought were unscientific/pseudoscientific. The specific hues chosen as 5Y, 5R, 5G, 5B, 5P are not intended to be special or unique, or what a human would pick out as "the" red, yellow, green blue, or purple. They are instead supposed to be perceptually equally spaced, and the particular point chosen to be e.g. 5R is substantially arbitrary. This is entirely different than the Swedish Natural Color System which is based on a concept of unique hues and does not aim for perceptually uniform spacing. Even the previous diagram has a chance of giving a somewhat false impression insofar as it compares these hues at widely varying value/chroma, which already somewhat diverges from Munsell's purpose.

I think it is misleading (and more or less "original research") to imply that there's a special geometric relation between the particular numbered Munsell hues, the way your diagram does. The way Shades of blue etc. currently are phrased ("The color defined as blue in the Munsell color system (Munsell 5B) is shown at right") is in my opinion also misleading. In my opinion specific Munsell colors should never be presented without a full specification of the form "Hue Value/Chroma". But those "shades of X color" articles are in general a trainwreck that I have avoided wading into. –jacobolus (t) 14:41, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

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