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Happy editing! SSSB (talk) 15:09, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Wolfsburg/Wolfsberg
You need to stop this now. You're being very disruptive. As I have explained to you, WP:KARLSRUHER is just an essay and nothing it says is binding. If the clubs are referred to as VfL Wolfsburg or Wolfsberger AC elsewhere on Wikipedia, please show me where so I can correct it. – PeeJay 12:57, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You are, in fact, being disruptive; however, full disclosure, so was I. Nevertheless, the fact remains that while you can point to various Bundesliga and Austrian Bundesliga articles, I can point to the various seasons of UEFA football in which Wolfsburg and other German clubs have been involved (see here, here, here, here and here). The full name is never used there. If editors of German/Austrian football articles want to use the full name, that's up to them, but on UEFA articles we use the short name. Do you accept this? – PeeJay 13:16, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Then I'm afraid you're both going to be involved in a bit of an argument. There is no reason to refer to German clubs by their full name except in specific circumstances where confusion could arise. There is no possibility of confusion in the UEFA articles, so you're going to have to come up with a good reason not to use the short name. – PeeJay 13:41, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but "another editor did it that way" is not a good reason. Maybe if they had a good reason to do it, but just saying "he does it so I'm going to do it too" without examining the reasoning any further is unacceptable. – PeeJay 14:08, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It's not my opinion, it is a fact; you shouldn't just copy someone else without thinking about the reasons for why they're doing what they're doing. It's ridiculous. If you have an issue, you start the discussion and I'll pitch in with my opinion. In the meantime, you should change the 2019-20 Europa League articles to the short names. – PeeJay 14:20, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * If you want to follow the most experienced editor, you should follow me as I’ve been here longer than any of the others you’ve mentioned. Just because something starts off a certain way doesn’t mean it has to stay that way. If you won’t make the changes, I will do it when I have time later. If you revert me, you can expect to find yourself reported for disruptive editing. Thanks. – PeeJay 14:35, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I’m sorry, but that’s not how it works. If they want to explain why this one season should be different from all the other UEFA season articles, they are free to do so, but until then, we should keep consistency between the articles. I look forward to you making the changes as soon as possible. Thanks. – PeeJay 14:58, 11 December 2019 (UTC)