User talk:85.102.112.8

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MOS:BIO
Since you can not or will not read MOS:BIO, here is the relevant part;
 * "The opening paragraph should usually provide context for the activities that made the person notable. In most modern-day cases, this will be the country, region, or territory, where the person is a citizen, national, or permanent resident; or, if the person is notable mainly for past events, where the person was a citizen, national, or permanent resident when the person became notable."


 * " Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless relevant to the subject's notability."

Therefore, Ali-Shir Nava'i notability was not for being Turkic(which is a generalized term and completely useless), but for being a poet, writer, politician, linguist, Hanafi Maturidi mystic and painter, and the greatest representative of Chagatai literature. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:30, 7 April 2022 (UTC)


 * First of all, thank you for the explanation, English was not my native language, sorry for that, but why are the reasons you put forward valid for someone whose ethnicity is clear, but not valid for other personalities' biographies? 85.102.112.8 (talk) 16:44, 7 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I have no idea what you are talking about. Where I find an ethnicity in the lead of an article I move it and any references to the body of the article.
 * Why do you ignore edit warring warnings, make accusations against other editors, and continue to add Turkic to the lead of an article when that term is extremely generalized and clearly does not reflect anything about Ali-Shir Nava'i? --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:54, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * "I have no idea what you are talking about." I say! Why don't you show your "principle" of not adding ethnicity first to the intro of Ali Shir Navai article for other Wikipedia articles? What you're doing is ridiculous, revisionist, stop it. 85.102.112.8 (talk) 08:59, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I say! You could start a discussion on the article talk page instead of edit-warring, but clearly that is too difficult for you to understand. Better yet, go complain to an admin about the rules governing MOS:BIO, and see where you end up!


 * "Why don't you show your "principle" of not adding ethnicity first to the intro of Ali Shir Navai article for other Wikipedia articles?"
 * I have. Your inability to comprehend is not my problem. --Kansas Bear (talk) 12:53, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not a wikipedia editor, I'm just fixing the error I saw, dot... 85.102.112.8 (talk) 12:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually what you deformed. 85.102.112.8 (talk) 12:58, 8 April 2022 (UTC)