User talk:A Man In Black/Archive15

Atomic Fire images
Hi. I just closed Images and media for deletion/2006 July 19. While removing the images you nominated from articles, I noticed a number of other images from the same source. I did not include them as part of your deletion request, but I'm not sure if it makes sense for us to be republishing them. Thoughts? Jkelly 23:28, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Anything from Atomic-Fire not attributed to a specific primary source is copyvio, and the only user who could have sourced most of it recently left Wikipedia, so I think they all need to go. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Are you able to identify them all? Jkelly 00:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Identify them how? List the images from AF, or identify where they came from? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I meant list the images from this website so that there is a list one could go through for deletion. Jkelly 01:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I've been tagging them with nsd whenever I see them, but I don't know any good way to list them other than going through Category:Mega Man media one by one (a laborious task on dial-up). - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I see. That's not ideal.  The thought of going through that cat is intimidating.  By the way, given your comment here, would you mind repeating it?  This is still going on, even after both of our comments on AN/I and a comment I made at the user in question's talkpage.  Jkelly 19:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Cleaning the castle
Following a seemingly unsuccessful AfD nomination of Castlevania timeline I thought it would be a good idea to get a reality check before contesting related articles, such as Castlevania recurrences. These two, to me, are redundant and don't really stand on their own as separate articles, and sources are virtually non-existent with parts grabbed and assembled from a number of fan sites which may well be based on direct observations by the authors. Perhaps I was simply not clear enough in my argument?

Anyway, thanks very much for your time. Combination 18:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Those articles hurt my head. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 08:10, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Fancy having a go at the template? I've arranged them by release order here and omitted a few, but it could probably benefit from some additional tweaking. Combination 19:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, seeing this subject on your talk page, I feel compelled to direct you all to List of characters in Castlevania: Sorrow series, a recent mergist project of mine where I merged separate character articles like Mina Hakuba and Julius Belmont into there, and one of my own reasons for doing that is because Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow are two Castlevania games featuring the same characters, so the characters are notable enough to have a list page. I think. Just to let people know. Erik Jensen (I appreciate talk!) 19:30, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The template is now in full effect, though I am a bit puzzled by our own Castlevania article whhich refer to Vampire Killer as port. Is it? Combination 20:00, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * IIRC, Vampire Killer was the first game. I'm no authority, though. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Template: SonicGames
What the heck do you think you're doing? Why are you removing a majorady of the freaking Sonic games? Drewdy


 * Per lengthy, lengthy discussion at WT:CVG and Template talk:Sonic games. Basically, when you have dozens of links, the clutter overwhelms any useful content. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 21:01, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for writing your last summary on you edit, before i get blocked for the 3RV. Ok I think it would look nice. And I was sort of modeling it after my fdavorite anime Oh My Goddess, because tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a show of pokemon based on the diamond and Jade games?? Also the movie Pokemon Power of the One i was modeling after Oh My Goddess. I hope you will consider my contributions to a anime that I'm don't like. 谢谢各位 (Thank you very much) !! LordPrincess (洛德公主) 22:26, 1 November 2006 (UTC)~
 * The problem is that they're dissimilar, and that you stated that the pages avoid spoilers when they actually don't. Also, you added the second Pokémon movie to the episode list, which is a cotnentious issue. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:30, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

May you please see my userpage to see if it looks Wikiful. Tell me what you think! LordPrincess (洛德公主) 23:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)~

List of Mega Man weapons
Wasn't this just deleted recently? Combination 22:28, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:30, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Block me?
See, I need to do a ton of work on a site due to an HDD crash to make up for lost revenue, and Wikipedia's distracting me. Could you please block me for the span of a month so that I can do this with no distractions? - A Link to the Past (talk) 07:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Last I checked, "I need a break from Wikipedia" blocks tend to get the blocking admin yelled at, sorry. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 15:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Spider-man
You shouldn't have merged Ultimate Spider-Man (Story Arcs) into Ultimate Spider-Man. I don't care what society you belong to, if you made a redirect, you should at least have put some of the content from the former into the latter, had you been needed to merge it. But you weren't! You acted completely against what the readers of the discussion part of that topic had agreed, which had been to keep the page. You might have noticed the large button proclaiming that it was kept and required cleanup, but I'm guessing you were too lazy to even read it. SaliereTheFish 13:50, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I see consensus not to go into this kind of extreme detail at both Talk:Ultimate Spider-Man (story arcs) and WP:CMC. Additionally, an appropriate level of detail was already present at Ultimate Spider-Man, so no merge or cleanup was necessary or even possible. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:16, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with this, and it is why I redirected the applicable links. --Chris Griswold (  ☎  ☓  ) 22:28, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

You're missing the Point! If you'll look at the big button on top of Talk:Ultimate Spider-Man (story arcs) then you'll notice that the button on top reads (I'm presuming you can understand english) 'THE CONSENSUS WAS: KEEP'. Therefore, the article should have been - need I say it - Kept. You broke a rule in making an unnecessary Redirect for a topic that an awful lot of people liked and relied on. The reason we needed 'this kind of extreme detail' is that the article is about a comic better selling and mor epopular than any of the others.

Change it back. Now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SaliereTheFish (talk • contribs)
 * The insults and implied threats and commands aren't doing you any good. AFD results aren't binding on anything but deletion, and all I did was redirect it. Feel free to bring this up at WT:CMC if you think I did the wrong thing, but be prepared to be disappointed. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion
Do you think it would be reasonable if I deleted nearly all of the articles I created? A few exceptions, like Nasir Gebelli, seem like they're somewhat notable. I'm appalled that I created a List of Final Fantasy characters article and a List of Final Fantasy locations article (even worse). I've propagated fancruft and trivial information at Wikipedia for over a year and pissed all over the fair use clause. I badly want to merge, well, nearly every article pertaining to the Legend of Zelda universe into something like The Legend of Zelda series universe. Can you imagine how well that would go over? I mean, where would scholars begin to research information for Keese or Deku Babas? At the very least, I don't cry when I see the articles over the Legend of Zelda series. I save the tissues for Pokemon articles. --Tristam 08:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The best bet seems to be just to merge and redirect, so that's what I'd suggest. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:33, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Just an update
Nah, not nagging, since Raul already trimmed the FAC list and it'll be some time before he hits MNSG. But I did want to note that development on the article is "complete" now that I've had four or five editors review it. I've also added a sequel section. I'm ready to edit things should it need more attention. Do you think the WP:FICT objection will stall it? --Zeality 19:09, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Bullets in templates
From what I can see at Navigation and related templates, the actual convention on Wikipedia seems to be to use ·, over the pipe and bullet. Anyway, it might be a good idea to suggest to our fellow editors that all CVG navigation templates switch of over to Navigation as soon as we have the latest round of bugs requested feature over there working correctly. &mdash;DavidHOzAu 00:58, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ideally, we wouldn't be using metatemplates. I know we're using Tnavbar right now, but ideally we wouldn't have transclusions in transclusions. I'm also not a fan of using hide/show functions; one of the reasons I went to the effort of standardizing appearance was to get rid of that often-glitchy hack. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, and as for the middot template, I'm indifferent. All I was aiming for was a standard divider, not a particular divider. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Anyway, from what I can see · happens to be just a nonbreaking space followed by a middot; in that respect it is a bit much. I think I'll subst it in future. --DavidHOzAu 12:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Metal Gear series template talk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Metal_Gear_series

Is it you who is always changing the complex template to the simplistic template? People prefer the old, more complex template. Please let it stay.

Um, I don't really know anything about editing wikipedia, but I notice that you are behind a lot of edits on the Solid Snake page, which currently says "Snake is sent by team leader Big Boss, possibly his homosexual lover, into the rogue nation.." but I'm pretty sure thats vandalism and would appreciate if you could confirm/deny this. Thanks.

Feureau
I wonder if you can help. I have just received a warning from the above that I shall be blocked if I continue vandalism. You can easily access the correspondance which appears on my User page and on the Talk page of Paul of Tarsus. I foolishly made a light comment on one of the huge number of descriptors which had been put up. (To be honest, there is a widespread view that I was articulating) For my part I try, as an editor, not to spend my time making comments about other people's sutbstantive contributions eg. stub, or over-long, or POV etc. I am much more interesting in the work of increasing the scope and quality of material than playing at the margins. I did not think I was offensive, merely playful. I have seen much more robust contrib utions in Talk pages. I am not aware of how the hierarchy of WP works or who is entitled to issues a Last Warning. I feel very offended by it, attempting as I do to reduce the sum of human ignorance. I Ifeel like asking if Feureau could be blocked, certainly from misinterpreting comments about citizens of the USA as personal attacks. If I had been adding offensive or spurious information to well-written articles, as I see constantly, I would take my punishment but these 'policemen' have me very concerned about WP as an open, and not overly serious-minided medium engaged in a very important task. Can you help? Roger Arguile 12:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite the one to ask about this. My suggestion would be to ask for help at WP:MEDCAB. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

lol
the way your summarized your edit of putting the italics makes it sound like I vandalized the article :P (which I wasn't intending to do, I just would prefer all italics) Sonic3KMaster(talk) 04:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, it wasn't vandalism. It's just that the reason we italicize game names is because they're proper names of longform works. Anything that isn't the proper name of a longform work shouldn't be italicized. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:38, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, that makes sense. I'll keep that in mind when I edit templates, thanks. Sonic3KMaster(talk)  05:55, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Forgive me
Please unblock me!!

To tell you the truth, I was a wonderful contributor to articles in Wikipedia "Yu-Gi-OH and Pokemon". The story began when a user named Mitsumasa began creating and upload Pokemon images and articles.

After about 5 months after the start of the articles the PCP began merging the articles (A Man in Black, Ryulong, Interrobamf) i tried talking to them, and the PCP but they did'nt listen. I even tried to leave a committ on their usertalk pages but A Man in Black is the only one that responds to my committ. I gave up until recently students at my school "The Learning Community School" began bullying me, they knew that I was a contributor at the site "Wikipedia", so they told my teacher that they logged in some accounts and began vandalizing the articles that I personattly was currently having problems with you. My teacher Mrs. Lisa Mercato talked to the students Jene', Jessica, Aaron and restricted them from using the school computer.

I'm very sorry. May you please unblock me and my IP address 72.177.68.38. May you please just make it that I can create a new account. It is a total misunderstanding. If you want to talk to my teacher, please email her at lmercato@yahoo.com. The block is casuing the school not to edit Wikipedia.

I used my house IP. Thank you, and God Bless


 * Hi, AMIB. This editor left the same note on my talk page, and I took a brief look at the situation (which I wasn't familiar with).  It looked like a justified block to me, and I left a note on the user's page letting him know that.  It looks like you know more about this case than I do, and I trust your judgment; I'd appreciate it if you could let me know if my interpretation of events was correct.  Thanks. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 18:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You made the right call. This is a sock of, with similar IP and similar Yahoo address. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've now seen the recent discussion on AN/I.  The kid seems to have it in for you! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:57, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

List of worst videogames
It has been agreed upon that all changes to this article, due to the POV-nature of the article, are discussed first. Please stop deleting things that, in your eyes, are wrong, and discuss it first. Thank you JackSparrow Ninja 05:08, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not a matter of my opinion. It's a matter of nobody ever publishing the opinions being expressed in this article. We need a reference that describes the game as worst ever. Not bad, not very bad, but "worst ever". "One of the worst games ever" suffices, but it "This is a terrible game" isn't enough. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:10, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Please put it in the talk page first still. There is more to it then just those words, and acting like this only makes your behaviour, to others as well, seem like mayor POV. JackSparrow Ninja 05:12, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I've done so. Bear in mind, no talk page discussion is going to get me to stop removing unreferenced or poorly-referenced info from a list that could easily be construed as defamatory. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:16, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * In that case I shall request an admin to block you for refusing to comply with agreements made on an article. Up to you what you like. JackSparrow Ninja 05:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't forsee you having much luck trying to intimidate me, especially over issues of verifiability and defamation. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:23, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * We'll let an admin decide then. JackSparrow Ninja 05:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Does it at all matter to you that I'm an admin, and that admins have no particular vested power to decide disputes other than the fact that they're trusted users? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It does indeed not matter to me that you are admin, since I know more admins that abuse their status. JackSparrow Ninja 05:31, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not sure what you want an admin for, to be honest. If you want a second opinion, I'd try WP:CVG, where Hahnchen solicited a third opinion (and got it, that's how I got involved). - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

edit war
You are having an edit war on Template:Zelda games. Stop it, and discuss things on the talk page. It doesn't need to be settled this second. Scepia 07:47, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Looking at the history, I see JosephK reverting three different users with comments like "GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. STOP EDETING IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!". There's not a lot to work with or discuss, there. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:50, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

look plz stop, plz? JosephK19 08:13, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Frankly, no. These redesigns are the result of lengthy discussion about standardizing the appearance of these templates, while narrowing them to link to a tightly-linked series of articles. You haven't given any reason why this effort is misguided, or indeed even addressed it at all. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 08:16, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm sic of your standeds Nintendo don't have a standed sowert of game most games are different all with themes! so stop sandadizing them this way people are absl to be creative.
 * These standards are for a standard appearance. It's possible to discuss dissimilar subjects in a standard way. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 08:27, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

i'm sory for being rude but if we must have standerds we could at lest do something more useful to non wikipedians. JosephK19 16:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC) This is JosephK's father, I am deeply sorry for his rudeness. I will be keeping an eye on his future edits and if he is not working in an appropriate manner and responding to people in a respectful tone he will be banned from using the system. Being 12 is not an excuse for his approach. I would like to thank people who have responded to him in a patient way.

About Iori4448.jpg
Well then tell me what should I put on it, it's a promotional image or art for free distribution, with known creator (SNKPlaymore). I don't know where that fits, because the closest tag is covers, and this isn't a cover. The new options for the copyright labeling took away the right option for these kind of images.

The copyright is the same as the first image in Iori's article, promo art freely released for free distribution. What tag should I use for these kind of images in the future? PabloG 12:23, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, unless you yourself got it from a press kit, you shouldn't use it at all. If you did, you should tag it Promo. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Category:Articles partially converted to Infobox CVG
I've managed to convert the remaining articles and the category is now empty. I'm not really sure what do to with it at this point, that's why I'm here. Cheers. Combination 00:30, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I deleted it, since we're done with it. Thank you for doing that awful task. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:14, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Survey Q
Have you ever been to the southern hemisphere? Respond here Deadline for entries is December 15th, PST. AstroBoy 03:26, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Template:Pokémon character
If you're not too busy, can you please check why the template doesn't display the character's speciality anymore? An example's here; I filled in the specialities but they don't show up. Cheers, The Raven's Apprentice  (Talk 13:55, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Apparently, fixed it. Never thought a typo could cause mayhem like that. Cheers,  The Raven's Apprentice  (Talk 16:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Deleting TV station logos
Why do you keep removing all the TV station logos on the Houston TV stations? Mike Richardson 12:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Because of WP:FUC #3 and #8. Lengthy reasoning here. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:34, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Why are logos still on WWOR-TV? Mike Richardson 23:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Because I was reverted? I haven't looked at it lately. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Why are there logos on the Sears page? If we can't have TV station logos, then we can't have old company logos either. I demand that you check every page on Wikipedia and remove these terrible villainous logos! Mike Richardson 04:27, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Because nobody has removed them yet. The fact that there is doubtless plagiarism elsewhere on the wiki is no reason not to remove it on sight. Likewise with vandalism, or original research, or howto guide, or any other thing that doesn't belong here. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * So you're going to terrorize KTRK-TV and KHOU-TV and KPRC-TV but you're going to leave the logos on WWOR-TV and Sears, Roebuck and Company? Something is seriously wrong. You either take the logos off everywhere or don't take them off at all. Mike Richardson 03:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Nothing like avoiding loaded language, eh? Feel free to remove galleries of fair-use material from any article in which you see them; I make a practice of doing so when I feel like dealing with the inevitable headaches. It's a shame I'm having difficulty keeping inappropriate material out of the articles I've already edited. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:31, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not the damned image nazi. You are. Mike Richardson 07:16, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Right. We're done here, then? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:39, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Q and Twelve
Hello... I was told by Danny Lilithborn you were the person who suggested Q and Twelve's articles be merged with the SFIII article. Is... that right?

I didn't think it was very fair to do that... but these are just my feelings and my opinions (so they're probably moot). Seeing that you're an administrator, what I say is possibly worthless. But not trying to sound like I'm whining or anything. I'm not mad, just a little disappointed, that's all. =(

Anyways, I do very well understand they are minor characters. But then, so is Makoto, and so is Remy. Neither of them have made ANY appearances in any other game but SFIII Third Strike (but I'm most likely wrong on all that. I don't do the most extensive research on all games...).

Q and Twelve, while yes, again, minor characters... they do have enough information on their backgrounds and origins to at least have their own pages. Q in particular is very enigmatic... the speculization of his origins are what make him "Q". Or maybe I'm wording this wrong... I suck at trying to provide a good argument. But I'll try anyways... I've honestly got nothing to lose. Don't get me wrong, I'm not challenging you or anything. If you want it to stay that way, that's fine... there's honestly nothing I can do, and I really don't want to cause any trouble or impose.

I apologize for any trouble... I just wanted to get that out. Ralf Loire 18:30, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm willing to discuss edits with pretty much anyone, and being an admin only means I have a couple of extra buttons, not some listen-to-me-or-else card.


 * The problem is that there's nothing but recapping fictional works to say about these characters. Q is the worst case, where his article was 60% speculation by weight, but these character articles all really need to be merged into their games. There's nothing to say but the story of SFIII (or whichever game, for other characters), and if you want the story of SFIII, you should play SFIII instead of Wikipedia retelling the story in less-compelling form. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:31, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I guess. But I could care less for reading about the story... =(


 * Well, it's your decision. I'm not intelligent enough to provide a decent argument as I said, so yeah. Nothing I can honestly do. But I understand. Ralf Loire 17:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

User:Chirag rana
Please block this user. They continue to vandalise the Jaden Yuki and Syrus Truesdale pages and have not listened to warnings from Benten. Drake
 * I haven't really been on, and I suck at telling when someone should be blocked. I suggest WP:AIV. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:32, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Subject of Commentary
You said, "neither of these logos is a significant subject of commentary in these articles". That seems like your personal opinion. The logos serve to show the progression of the station. Mike Richardson 10:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, they serve to show the progression of the station's logo. If they serve to show some progression in the station as a larger subject, the burden is on the one who wants the logo included to explain how they do so, in the article itself. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:52, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Metroid Template
Why did you revert the Metroid template to the standard? The point of a template is to supply useful links to related pages. The standard template doesn't have many useful links. The template I made had most of the links, and the pages it didn't have links to (such as Ing could be easily linked to from the creatures page. What was wrong with it?  Let me know on my talk page (talk) so I can fix it.  (I do know that on some computers internet pages are formatted differently and that something that looks good on the computers I use [I use different ones depending where I am] might look horrible on your computer. Was that it?) Anyways, let me know. -  Mit kebes T  15:14, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I reverted it because it wasn't in standard style; the last version I reverted to included the creatures link. I don't think I'm the one you've got a beef with; if I am, please supply specific diffs. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:53, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

album category gallery
Hi, Fram mentioned you as one to ask, so I have a question if you could look at it. Cover Q. Murgh 01:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi, if you could just enlighten me a little. Arranging thumbs of the fairUse cover images underneath the text listed albums of a series in a category is discouraged? __NOGALLERY__ is to be inserted in these category pages? Murgh 12:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Correct. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Template:CVG Navigation
recently created this template with your new proposed design and has been transcluding it onto other templates. I reverted based on your dislike of transcluding templates; one comment was about your apprenhension of even using Tnavbarheader in the current template scheme  Dispenser reverted back  and said that it woudl be easier to make changes if we could edit a template within a template. What do you think? Hbdragon88 07:00, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I've decided that I have no strong opinion. As long as the style doesn't have any of the old problems, it doesn't matter to me if it's substed or transcluded. Just no metadata, no hide/show, and no junk links. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Blocked
I blocked you for 24 hours for violating WP:3RR in Princess Daisy it was an obvious content dispute, I blocked User:DaisyDefender has well. I promice to unblock if you promice to avoid the article. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 01:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I only see one revert. &mdash; Deckill e r 01:58, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see it on Princess Daisy. While A Man in Black is obviously correct, Wikipedia policy forces the block here. &mdash; Deckill e r 02:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Fixed, opps Jaranda wat's sup 02:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

DaisyDefender is a SPA created to force fanpage content into that article, and is the latest sock of. This isn't a content dispute so much as a banned user's ongoing effort to force that article to her preferred version. Blocking the latest sock is generally pointless as she just makes another. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:03, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * In such a case, AMIB should be unblocked. We must strike a balance between policy and maintaining the integrity of the encyclopedia. &mdash; Deckill e r 02:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I unblocked, and the sock is indef. Jaranda wat's sup 02:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Daisy has been confirmed for MP8,ISDS and SSBB
I told you already she is confirmed in MP8, ISDS and SSBB and leave that playable appearances their or you can be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Also I just reverted back to the more information about Princess Daisy is relationships and personally and see also is not link to the site and also the Trivia and external links and we need this on their right now.

I hope they unblocked DaisyDenfender and Michelle3801 with the right information on their.
 * Hello, Michelle. Confirmed by whom? Blocked by whom? Why do we need unsourced original research, bordering on fanfic, about a minor supporting character? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Your removal of the images on WNBC
You removed the image gallery on WNBC, climing that it violated WP:FUC, right? It doesn't. From WP:FUC: "The material must contribute significantly to the article (e.g. identify the subject of an article, or specifically illustrate relevant points or sections within the text) and must not serve a purely decorative purpose." The article needs those images, please do not remove them again. aido2002 20:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The article does not need these images, and they do not contribute significantly. There was a lengthy discussion of this at WT:TVS. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
 * A discussion which was never resolved to anything resembling consensus, by the way. DHowell 23:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

MNSG
Raul skipped over it on the latest FAC pass; may I strikethrough the Oppose or request a second evaluation? --Zeality 00:39, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Reneewed my opposition there. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:56, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

MGS Substance / album name
Hi there, I recall reading that somewhere ages ago. It was Joy Divisions' "Substance (19xx-19xx)" best-of album or something similar. There's an interview reference but I worry that it's a bit too... wolly as a citation, frankly. What do you think, worth re-adding? Sockatume 21:07, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd say it was weak. If someone wants to readd it, though, I wouldn't revert. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:56, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll wait until there's a better reference myself. Sockatume 15:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Concerning Template: Mega Man Zero
Okay, I've had just about enough of this. I finally go along with your suggestions, the ones that the majority of people at WP:CVG have agreed to, and you start reverting my changes. What more do you want? My edits follow your suggestions to the letter. No metadata, that idiotic blue background colour, only links to games italicised. What more do you want?

What is the point of reverting my changes to your ones? Your versions go against the very proposal you laid out. No one agreed that only longform works should be italicised, only links to games. As Remastered Tracks Rockman Zero are not games, they should not be italicised. It's that simple.

Leave the template alone. It's fine as it is. With Remastered Tracks Rockman Zero un-italicised, it does not violate your navigation template proposals. Users still might not be able to tell that it isn't a game, but the more intelligent ones will realise that that link isn't. Wolf ODonnell 22:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It violates common English usage, however. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:56, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't know about that, as far as I'm concerned, your usage doesn't apply to anything other than literature. It violates the proposals you made and the ones that the majority of the users at the WP:CVG agreed to. No distinction is made between the album and the games, so any Wikipedia user that comes across the template, won't know the difference. It is confusing and I will keep reverting it back to my version unless you can come up with a better idea to ensure a proper distinction. Wolf ODonnell 22:03, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The reason I wrote that rule was because I wanted people to italicize game names, as is part of basic English usage, and not italicize things like years of release and articles about fictional objects. In the case of movies and albums and books that are in the template anyway, they should be italicized too. I can't imagine why you're still arguing with me about the intent of a propose rule that I myself wrote! - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 08:25, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Because your propose rule does not mention longform at all and no one agreed to this. It is, by the way, not basic English usage. It is basic print usage. The link in contention is not to a longform work, but to an article that overviews four separate longform works and therefore should not be italicised. Wolf ODonnell 11:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * A series of longform works is also italicized. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Question
After all the things i've called you I probably don't deserve a response, but, you say that this is from a press kit CD that you have, are the FOXHOUND character sketches there aswell? †he Bread 02:44, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I will look. The only apology I require for personal abuse is that you stop. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:56, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You got it †he Bread  23:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Please help me
Mr. Man in Black, could you help me to use the template named General CVG character at the portuguese wikipedia? I just want you replace some words. For example:

Nome instead Name

Nascimento instead Birthday

Terra natal instead Birthplace

Estilo de luta instead Fighting Style

Peso instead Weight

Altura instead Height

Tipo sanguíneo instead Bloodtype

Comida preferida (which means Favorite food)

Hobby Não gosta de instead Dislikes

Jogo de origem instead First game

I tried to do it myself but I failed. If you can do it, please put the model at my talk page. Thanks.Brazilian Man 18:14, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The problem is that it's two different templates coming together to form a single infobox, that's why it's not working. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 08:28, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Edits on Sting Oakley
Considering that I am not posting nonsense on the above page, I would like you to please explain the reason for reverting my edits on that page, thx.--Blackhawk charlie2003 12:33, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It wasn't nonsense; you removed the trivia tag (and any trivia section is too much) and added an unnecessary header. It wasn't vandalism, no, but it wasn't helpful. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:18, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Monster Hunter Portable 2nd
I'm not going to yell at you or anything, but I just would like to know what the motive is behind you trying to remove that Tigarex monster?SuperDT 05:04, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems to be sourced to an image on a blog. That's not really enough to justify game-guide-ish claims about an unreleased game. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * If it makes any difference, if you go to the official site, in that white PSP click GAME, click on the middle sentence, press the circle button(O), and watch the slideshow, they do make a reference to it, along with a picture. I hope that's not too confusing (no offense or anything)...SuperDT 05:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That doesn't really explain the importance in any useful way; it's just a random thing you noticed on the official site. I would suggest waiting until some articles are written to use as proper references. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:23, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Will do, thanks a bunch!SuperDT 05:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Revelation
While conversing with J.smith and how I had mistaken him for User:Jsmith, J.S. had informed me that Jsmith was indefblocked, and his contribs remind me of another user's. I think we found our true sockpuppeteer.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 06:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Gears of War
Thanks for taking the time to clean up vandalism. I'm pretty new to Wikipedia, so I'm slower to clean it up. Are there easier ways to maintain articles to prevent these sort of things? --Jecrell 06:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Do you know how to use your watchlist? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I was thinking more along the lines of external programs, but if there are any tricks to the watchlist or if you have any tips that would be nice. --Jecrell 06:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Mmkay. There's Tools, but I just use my watchlist and admin rollback. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll check that out. --Jecrell 06:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Template:Resident Evil series
So ok, I don't get why you need to remove those upcoming stuffs on Resident Evil (RE5, RE Wii, Extinction). I don't see anything bad about keeping them in the template specially those are confirmed and already on production. Also it would be easier to visitors to look at what's new stuffs about Resident Evil they don't know by keeping them at the template. You look at Windows Template and you can see Windows Vista, on Survivor Template there's the 2 upcoming seasons, etc, on Disney Template there's 4upcoming cartoons which would be releases in 3years or more.--hottie 14:09, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Because those articles aren't very good, and aren't terribly integrated into the series of articles. The fact that other templates also make this mistake is no reason to keep making that mistake. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

But I think whether it's good or bad it is still should be in the template since it's related to the subject and there's no mistake watsoever just because it's upcoming.

Peer review
A request for a peer review of New Universe has been made at WikiProject Comics/Peer review/New Universe. I'd appreciate your comments on the article, hopefully it will kickstart the comics project's peer review process. To comment, please add a new section (using ) for your comments, in order to keep multiple responses legible. Hiding Talk 22:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

What should I do when dealing with a ton of character stubs?
While looking through categories, I keep seeing lists full of character articles that are all stubs(many with way over 100 stubs, mostly soap opera type of shows). Can I just go ahead and merge all of the stubs into a character list, or would it be better to start some sort of discussion on the category or list talk page? Nemu 00:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh yeah, some of them include these. I haven't checked every article, but the bulk I looked at are just plain stubs. List of characters from Coronation Street, List of Emmerdale characters, Category:Brookside characters and Category:Family Affairs characters are some. Nemu 00:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Go right ahead and merge. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Please delete...
this template. I created it by mistake when I attempted to edit this template. The first oen is jsut a copy of the second. I apologize for this, please delete the first template. Drake Clawfang 06:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Hold on. There's a problem with one, actually. I'm not sure why, but the Template:Yu-Gi-Oh! GX has a problem in that, when you go to edit it, you end up editting the Template:Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Directory. I can tell, because edits I made to the latter are not appearing on the former. I'm not entirely sure what's gonig on, but could you maybe fix it? Drake Clawfang 06:33, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Found the problem. The three links that appear on the top of the Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Template were linking to the Driectory template. I apologize for all this once again. Just before, this template (Template:Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Directory) needs to be deleted, as it is just a copy of this template (Template:Yu-Gi-Oh! GX). My thanks. Sorry for the mess. Drake Clawfang 06:38, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Your removal of the images on Spike TV and ABC Family
You removed the image gallery on Spike TV and ABC Family, climing that it violated WP:FUC, right? It doesn't. From WP:FUC: "The material must contribute significantly to the article (e.g. identify the subject of an article, or specifically illustrate relevant points or sections within the text) and must not serve a purely decorative purpose." The article needs those images, please do not remove them again. Ronald20 05:03, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The article does not need these images, and they do not contribute significantly. There was a lengthy discussion of this at WT:TVS. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:03, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * A discussion which was never resolved to anything resembling consensus, by the way. Ronald20 05:03, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, it was a copyright issue. It was due notice, not a solicitation for opinions. The policy comes down from Jimbo and the board. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Please cite where Jimbo or the board has stated unequivocally that galleries of historical logos, in the article whose subject the logos represent, are forbidden. Not vague statements about there being too many fair use images on Wikipedia, or that fair use galleries are usually a bad thing, but something addressing this particular issue. Until you can do that, you are merely enforcing your opinion on what you think policy is, not some mandate from Jimbo and the board. DHowell 13:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:FUC #3 and #8. These images fail to specifically illustrate relevant points or sections within the text, and we only need one image to identify the subject. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Again, this is your opinion and your interpretation of FUC #3 and #8, and you know there was considerable disagreement on WP:TVS, not over the policies, but over your interpretation of the policies. Neither of these criteria are an unequivocal statement that "fair use galleries of historical logos representing the subject of an article are forbidden". And, as I expressed before in WP:TVS, we need more than one image to identify the subject when the subject has had several different identities throughout its lifetime. And in fact we occasionally need more than one image to identify some stations current as they currently exist, such as when a station has several digital subchannels. We have hashed these arguments back and forth and it is obvious that I will never change your mind. I do not wish to engage in edit wars with you, however, I do not intend to drop this until I see either a clear consensus, or a clear statement from Jimbo or the board on this specific issue. DHowell 09:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Galleries of fair-use images cannot ever be kosher. Only one image of a subject is ever needed to identify it, and after that, there's no way a gallery can be illustrating specific accompanying points in the text because there's no accompanying text.
 * Now, if a station is several digital subchannels with distinct brands, go right ahead and use an image to identify each subbrand if that's necessary. Just add the image alongside the accompanying text it's identifying. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 08:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

more Gears of War
Hi, ever since the protection came down of the page I keep seeing edits more-or-less along the lines of "OMG this is the best game ever!!!" or the polar opposite. I know the vandalism has definitely cooled off but the users are almost always pretty new. With Christmas coming up a lot of people are going to be buying/getting it so the vandalism might pick up again.

Also, this is just an opinion but the Story section might need clean up. Almost every other word is wikilinked or italicized. I mean, I know you're supposed to link stuff but do people looking up Gears of War really need a link to energy? ListedRenegade 01:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

requesting semi-protection or protecton for soccer page
I'm writing to request fullprotection or if that's not possible, semi-protection, for the page Football (soccer). There is vandalism to this page on a daily basis, and too many people are editing a page whose subject has not changed in significantly in many years. Thank you for your attention to this matter. --D 19:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

A Man In Black

 * Are you a boy or a girl? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.197.2.213 (talk) 23:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC).
 * Ah, and what's your favorite color? Mine is green. And I think it would be preposterous to think that there is an Erik in this world who does not like the color green! All Eriks like green... Erik Jensen (Appreciate 21:01, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Need help in Template:Soul Calibur character
I'm trying to add alignment to the category like it was before, I don't know what is wrong with the code. It should work but it doesn't. Please help? Thanks. Valoem  talk  05:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I removed it as subjective; there are too many characters who aren't clearly good or evil. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 14:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Bot
I believe that we should have a bot to welcome the new user accounts for it is very tideus work for people like me that welcome this new users to wikipedia. If this would be possible please contact me on my user page.--The Dwarf_King 14:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Why are you telling me about this?
 * 2) There's a great deal of resistance to greeting new users by bot. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 14:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I am telling you this because your an admin and also its hard to get all new users welcomed which is why we could all benefit with this.

Metroidvania page
We meet again, and over the same subject, no doubt!

I notice you added the Original Research tag to the Metroidvania article. After reading it and realizing that while the information there was mostly correct and indeed a reflection of the genre, it was also information I added myself without basing the information in the article on the writings of another, verifiable source. Rather than fight a rear-guard action which might include an AfD and bitter edit warring, I took a bit of time to reflect and decided that if someone was going to have to do the pruning I'd rather it be myself.

If you've got the time, would you mind taking a glance at the article and removing the tag if you deem it sufficiently reduced? I'd do it myself but I recognize that my own opinion in the matter might be somewhat... skewed.

Thanks, Lankybugger 23:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Your references aren't actually references supporting claims in the article. Instead, they're a bunch of dictionary-style examples of the word in use. You need a source that is actually making some of the claims you're making in the article. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 18:40, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

delete
Please delete the following page: Template:Pokemon episode Template:Pokemon episode page Template:Pokémon episode as they are not in ue anymore. thanks Ragnaroknike 06:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

User: Nightmare 81
I kindly ask that you delete my user account on December 15, 2006. User: Nightmare 81

Recreating a Page
I'd like to dicuss the recreation of a page, so to speak. Due to recently information on the Cyber Dragon cards in Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, a much more comprehensive and informative article could be written on the cards, focusing on their relation to yin and yang and other Chinese mythos, as well as the Cyber Dojo's history. However, as the original Cyber Dragon page was deleted some time ago, I'm asking for your permission first. If you'd like, I could create the page and let you judge its value from there. If so, I think "Cyber Series" would be a better name. Drake Clawfang 18:22, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It has been about 24 hours. I will create the page labelled Cyber Series and let you judge if it can stay or not.Drake Clawfang 17:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I deleted it as a recreation. You need references other than direct observation of the anime or cards themselves. Until you've got that, you're still making either a guide and/or OR. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 18:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I did have the refernces to the wikia pages for the cards. I was merely fixing the links a few minutes ago when it was deleted. Drake Clawfang 18:40, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikis aren't reliable sources, and the YGO Wikia ended up getting a lot of the deleted Wikipedia content anyway. It's like using an Answers mirror of Wikipedia as a reference for a Wikipedia article. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 18:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. What would you consider viable references? Janime.net's episode guides tell much of the information I listed, if that would work. Drake Clawfang 18:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest taking a look at WP:RS for guidance on that. You want to avoid wikis, direct observation of the subject, and fansites. (Janime is a fansite.) - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 18:46, 13 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, I will see what I can find. As I look, would you consider an on-line video of the episode in which the information is given as a source? It would be a Japanese video though, as the yin-yang explanation is left out of the dub. Drake Clawfang 18:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)


 * After some searching, it appears that the above video idea is the only source I would be able to provide. I can't find a site with the Japanese episodes' script that isn't a fansite. I can still provide a video of the episode, however. Drake Clawfang 19:16, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

That's direct observation of the subject. Cheese isn't cited to a picture of a piece of cheese. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * ...I don't really see how that's a problem. I mean, if it's the episode itself providing the information, what better source could there be? Drake Clawfang 06:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Direct observation of the show doesn't establish importance. This helps distinguish between Blue-Eyes White Dragon and Fusionist. (Lamest. Fusion. Ever.)
 * Direct observation of the show is subject to the interpretive filter of the viewer. We need a filter more reliable than "some guy who felt like writing a Wikipedia page" (which describes pretty much all of us).
 * That's why we need sources for the article that aren't direct observation. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:47, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Agreed on the first point, but Zane plays either Cyber End Dragon or Cyberdark Dragon every time he duels, they're his signature cards. As for the second, if a source is discredited due to alternative interpretations, then how can any source be reliable on such grounds? There are lots of Yugioh pages that use the anime for a source, and they don't have any trouble. Is there some sort of higher-up Mod I could discuss this with? Drake Clawfang 13:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * That seems like an excellent argument to mention the card in Zane's article, then. The fact that there are other articles that fail to meet a reasonable of sourcing is a pretty weak argument to overturn an AFD result.


 * If you want to look at policy stuff (since moderation isn't really tiered on WP), what happened was that you made a recreation of a deleted article that you felt resolved the issues raised at the AFD. I disagreed, so I redeleted the article. Then we started chatting about that. If you want a broader look, you'd take the article to WP:DRV. Personally, I'd suggest you instead deal with any character's signature card in that character's article, something that has been suggested a couple times in the past. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:55, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Once again, is there someone else I can talk to about this? When it comes to TV shows in general, direct observation of the show by all means should be a viable source, and I don't care about direct observation policies or whatever. My experience tells me that the only sites that give full information about the show are fansites, and the official sites typically only give hints and previews as opposed to the whole story, because hey, if they gave you the whole story on the site, you wouldn't watch. Such it is with Yugioh, half the information in the character pages isn't on the website supplied as a reference, it's info taken from the episodes, so please, tell me where to draw the line. Drake Clawfang 16:40, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, you mean informally? User:JzG has a pretty level head on his shoulders. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:15, 18 December 2006 (UTC)