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Hi - thanks for your note. I think your proposed changes look reasonable; they should preferably be accompanied by references. I used as my reference; it's pretty anti-Militant, but there's a fair bit of useful detail in there. Matgamna suggests that Taaffe was editor in name only for the first four issues, but you're quite right that that is not the same as stating that Taaffe was the second editor - which was an error on my part.

By the way, I've added a little more detail to the article on Protz; I suspect that it is New Agenda that you are confusing with New Society, which appears to have only had two editors until 1986 - although it's possible that Protz guest-edited it; apparently he guest edited Time Out for a few weeks. Warofdreams talk 01:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks War of dreams! the reference you give, which does not really contradict my points, is really interesting also, if a bit poinsonous.

It assigns Peter Taaffe to National Scretary in 1965 when he moved down,with some plausibililty. This would be definitely worth entering into the biography.

Before seeing your post, I added a little extra information to my post on your page (I hope you didn;'t mind me posting there - wasn't really sure where was the best place.) THis consists of the evidence of the first issue of the Militant declaring clearly that Peter Taaffe is the editor.

I also added that the minutes are available. They are likely to be available in Manchester university with Jimmy Dean's archives. JImmy Dean was certainly present, so it is likely he made the minutes. Perhaps this can serve as the reference.

I don't intend to use this, but it might be worth adding it to the discussion in case people are unsure of the changes. Andysoh 11:04, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi - I've gone through the article. I hope it doesn't look too harsh; I've explained my edits on the talk page. Warofdreams talk 00:15, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry for taking a while to get back to you; I'm pleased to see you've been working away on the article. I'm not too concerned which image is used; in general higher resolution images are preferred, but it's not overly significant.  Your proposed wording on Matgamna's comment looks fine, except that I'd probably leave out the "highly critical" - though I'd agree that they are highly critical, it's not really relevant to that particular comment.  On the balance of information on the party, I'd entirely agree that Taaffe's life is entwined with that of the tendency, and so there should be plenty of information on it - just that each fact should be clearly linked to Taaffe - for instance, if there's a reference which points out his specific responsibilities for Liverpool, that'd make it clear why Militant's activities in the city in the 80s are being discussed - whereas, if he had few links with the city, it'd make more sense to put in only the briefest of mentions as background and leave the detail for the article on Militant.  The info on the talk page looks reasonably well sourced, but again I feel some it needs to be linked more closely to Taaffe to establish its relevance.  Best, Warofdreams talk 03:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

On the Edge
Can you please take a look at the article On the Edge (book)? See, someone keeps removing info about the author's personal involvements with the groups they are writing about.

Hi, I personally think you have a point that if the author has not disclosed his own involvement with the groups he describes in this book, it is relevent at least to the criticism section of the article. And if he has said so, you can still make the point, becuase it is not just a question of disclosure, but that he has an intimate knowledge of the CWI. And I personally would not let go the slight of hand about where he says "even if they agree with the substantive points" becuase that is a bit misleading.

You will be aware that he says :


 * I WAS a member of the Committee for a Workers International (aka CWI, Militant Tendency or now the Socialist Party) in Ireland from 1974 to 1985. For six of those years I worked for it full time. After leaving, in circumstances that would be boringly familiar to those who have either studied or experienced the Trotskyist party building milieu, I became a full time student and then an academic. I am now a Professor of Communication at a Scottish university.

in this article http://www.whatnextjournal.co.uk/Pages/Back/Wnext27/Intro.html

You won't get very far without creating a wikipedia account, however, and then raising the matter briefly on the discussion page, with the aim of adding the information, and the reference, to the criticism section, making clear the point that this means that there is a case for arguing that he is not an impartial outsider, and that his own experiences are important. I would then wait a week or two to see if there are any objections before doing anything. Andysoh 10:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Welcome!
Just giving you a slightly belated welcome. Good stuff. You might want to consider creating a user page. - Jmabel | Talk 01:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Transitional Program
At the moment, there are two articles: one on the Transitional Program, and one on the concept of a transitional demand, which is (slightly) broader than the Trotskyist movement. Most related terms redirect to the second, general, concept, including transitional program. Is that what you mean? I'm not quite sure what link it was that got reverted, or where the merge might be. Could you perhaps expand on this a bit? Warofdreams talk 12:07, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Entrism/socialism
Andysoh- I just had a quick look at your entryism material. It looks excellent - although I haven't read it thoroughly. I think that it deserves its own page, especially as it is rather long and so would skew the article a little. I haven't yet digested the issues you raised at the History of socialism page, so apologies for not getting back yet. Hopefully, tomorrow I will have more time! Anyway, keep up the fantastic work. BobFromBrockley 15:11, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

help! under politically motivated attacks
Hi Andysoh, Can you see if this article is really OR or just being railroaded? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Influence_and_activism_of_J._K._Rowling Thanks, Libertycookies 17:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Marxism reference tag
Hi, it's true that this article does contain some in-line citations, but not many so I have added a tag at the top of the page that asks for MORE citations to improve the article (I think its more appropriate than the one you removed). As "lack of citing" was the reason that the article failed GA status I think it is important (even though in theory according WP policy says that summary article only need references that apply to the article as a whole in practice, it is common for people to comment on the lack of inline citing in this article). Hope that's ok! Cheers, JenLouise 08:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Militant and NI
Andy, I am aware that the CWI organised in Northern Ireland. Was the group there part of the British or Irish section or neither? In any case, they obviously weren't a LP entryist group given it has never stood in elections there.Haldraper (talk) 14:50, 31 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I remember Michael Crick discussing this in his book 'The March of Militant' which I read when it was published in the 80's but don't have a copy of. I'm pretty sure the NI CWI supporters weren't part of the British section but whether they were a separate section or part of the Irish one I don't remember.  Do you know if they did any entry work - obviously not in LP - and what publication they sold?  Their own I would guess rather than the British Militant.Haldraper (talk) 15:18, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

English
Hello there! I noticed your edit on Socialism changed "bellicose" to "war". "War" isn't an adjective in English. At least not in American English, and unless you can provide something saying so in some other dialect, I'll revert your edit. -- MutantPlatypus (talk) 02:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

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This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at Socialist Party (England and Wales), you may be blocked from editing without further notice. ''Stop edit warring. Discuss on talk page.'' Drmies (talk) 14:57, 6 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Dear Drmies, thank you for your intervention. I agree about the BLP violations. You will see from the talk page that I have been asking for this to be discussed on the talk page, and outlining the issues involved. The potentially libelous material in one reference is a real problem. Over the last few weeks i have been looking at the material and changing it, making minor changes, without any problems. I also noticed that I asked for this material to be removed in 2014 for the very reasons you suggest.Andysoh (talk) 15:15, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

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