User talk:Animalparty/Archive 6

Peter Thiel
All due respect, you could be more courteous in your edit summaries. Prezbo (talk) 03:19, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

James Gordon Meek
I'm surprised an experienced editor like you backs up an IP vandal by deleting the content that makes him notable. Find better sources? Go for it, but don't remove what all RS say about him. I'm off to bed. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 03:57, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * . None of the sources are reliable. Rolling Stone culture issues and Raw Story are both red at WP:RSPS. Sleep well. --Animalparty! (talk) 04:01, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Toy Reid
I just created a draft for Draft:Toy Reid. He is central to a major news story that has just come out. I assume there will be more about him as the days go on. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 06:39, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * We clearly can't risk portraying Democrats in a bad light. This is Wikipedia! We must maintain a unified narrative that always frames the actions of the left as morally superior to those on the right.

I know you were joking in your own way, but your POV interests me in several different ways. I’ve spent the last seven years discussing these and other ideas with conservatives off wiki to try and understand them. I admit, I haven’t made much progress. If you would like to continue this discussion either here or on my talk page, feel free. I’m particularly interested in your conception of moral superiority, which I feel you are projecting on to others. Viriditas (talk) 08:30, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/The Hillpost
Thanks for your detailed comment at this discussion. The vast majority of editors who encourage a "merge" in AFDs don't offer any detail on what or how much should be merged in. When people take the time to enter their thoughts in some detail, it makes a quality merge much easier. Joyous! | Talk 04:43, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Redirects
Hi, I just noticed your edit to Nicholas Gurewitch. Did you know it is now possible to add sitelinks to redirects without first breaking the redirect? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:15, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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HB Brown
It is not trivia. It very directly reflects on his reputation. Knockanar (talk) 20:53, 12 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia. "Perhaps the public nadir of Brown's legacy.... "? Did you write this? It sounds incredibly like the personal musings of a Wikipedian (i.e. original research), and in any case appears plucked out of a primary transcript, suggesting it's given undue weight. We don't include facts merely because they are true or interesting or useful, per WP:NOTEVERYTHING and WP:PROPORTION. We summarize what secondary sources have published giving aspects proportional coverage to their prominence in the published literature. And we don't editorialize facts with words like "Perhaps" or "interestingly, or "it should be noted". Other problems with he article include the "Absence of memorials" section: "there are no known statues, named schools or buildings or institutions, or any other memorials to Brown. There has been no book-length biography published about him." This uncited statement may be true, but unless scholars have commented on it, it is WP:OR. --Animalparty! (talk) 21:13, 12 December 2022 (UTC)


 * OK thanks for your explanation; your reasoning makes sense. Thanks for catching it.  Best regards, Knockanar (talk) 15:04, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

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Would appreciate your judgment
Hi Animalparty!, since you kindly took the time to review my suggestion on Talk:Paul McKenna, another editor has since deleted a sentence according with BLPPRIMARY. The remaining text is now inaccurate. If you have a moment could you please take a look at what I've suggested to fix this without reintroducing the source in question? I'm happy to add it myself but would appreciate a neutral opinion. Memereese (talk) 12:56, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi again, just messaging to say that this seems to have reached a conclusion, but it took a wildly different approach than the one you did when you responded. If you have a moment to review the final article and see if the assessment is fair I would appreciate it. Memereese (talk) 15:32, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

CfD for Category:Blue plaques
Per your rationale for Category:Pennsylvania state historical marker significations (which I just closed as delete), do you think the blue plaques category should be similarly deleted? It seems to have the same problem. — Qwerfjkl  talk  19:29, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

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Three hundred and fourteen bottles of beer on the wall, three hundred and fourteen bottles of beer. Have you come up with anything for the big five zeroes? jp×g 07:20, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Please self-revert your obviously inappropriate remark
Here. You also may want to check the block log of the account you've rushed to defend, and perhaps question who the "most fervent chest-thumpers" are in this scenario. Generalrelative (talk) 06:42, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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Trolling at noticeboards
Hi, Animalparty. I warned you back in February about certain bludgeoning behaviors at WP:FTN, asking you to stop before you were blocked. You apologized that time, sort of, though not really (the mocking word "seriousity" giving the game away), and your renewed fun with Doug Weller in August shows you still feel entitled to troll both him and FTN. That kind of uncollegial behavior is very bad for a supposedly collaborative project. When I saw this recent attack of yours at WP:BLPN, and especially this modification of it, it made me consider blocking you from some noticeboards, but I thought I'd give you a chance to explain first. You obviously take pride in your wit. What exactly was the humorous point of this edit? It looked like you were inserting a gay lisp. Bishonen &#124; tålk 23:57, 31 October 2023 (UTC).
 * At the time of writing I thought it nothing more than a humorous portmanteau of "thumper" and "spoken", but I'm no Lenny Bruce. Nothing else at all intended by that, gay, straight, or otherwise. Sure I'm sometimes perhaps a bit too blunt with FTN regulars who at times I consider to be heavy-handed, paranoid, paternalistic, and/or averse to self-reflection or entertaining their own potential for biases. But please note that not all criticism or unenjoyed comments are "attacks", though if one looks hard enough they may find offense conceivably anywhere. Cheers, --Animalparty! (talk) 01:09, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Is that the best you can do? You're saying that at first you dismissed those with a different opinion by posting "Too late, the most fervent chest-thumpers have spoken"? And then you thought "Hang on, that's missing something; let me just reinforce it by adding a pointless 'portmanteau'"? I don't believe you, you know, because it doesn't make sense. I believe the lisp was inserted to offend and mortify Generalrelative, the OP of the subthread you were posting in and the only adversary of yours there. Since you have previous form for and have been warned against trolling and belittling your adversaries, you have been blocked from Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard and Fringe theories/Noticeboard for three months. Note that you are free to edit the rest of Wikipedia, including WT:BLPN and WT:FTN, though if you were to troll or bludgeon those pages, I will extend the block. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: . Bishonen &#124; tålk 10:25, 1 November 2023 (UTC).
 * I'm not going to appeal my block, it's probably deserved, but yes, my honest answer is "the best I can do." Because it's the truth, your disbelief notwithstanding. You want me to make up a sob story? You don't know what goes on in my head, just as I don't know what goes on in yours (you probably won't believe this either, but at the time I thought to myself "well, 'thumping' isn't technically 'speaking' so..."). Not everything on earth needs to "make sense", especially a silly, poorly received play on words. It is quite noble of you to leap in to defend Generalrelative from the 'offense' and 'mortification' you apparently perceived on their behalf. And if you made some connection from my comment to their pronoun/gender declaration on their userpage, well you also probably won't believe that I have no recollection of ever viewing their userpage until just now. And that user was not the only "adversary" in that discussion. I can't control what you believe. Block me for being snide, sure. But please don't turn a silly senseless turn of phrase into something more sinister. All the best. --Animalparty! (talk) 03:40, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

RSN
Hi AnimalParty. No source has been downgraded because "aren't those the wrong views". Sources have been graded on their reliability, and left wing sources have been downgraded as well (The Canary and Counter Punch for instance). US politic sources are not great in general, not one side definitely has the worst. This isn't a problem that's solvable on Wikipedia. That specific NewsNation thread is likely going nowhere but to be forgotten in the archive. Also just as an aside neither mediabias or allsides are very useful in discussions, there's threads in the RSN archives for more details, but in general they're not considered very reliable themselves. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 22:07, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Also if you believe an old discussion was came to the wrong conclusion you can always open a new thread, and put your case for it forward. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 22:08, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

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