User talk:Benccc

welcome
Hey, thanks for your edits to Burning Man, dolly, and others. You seem to have found your way around.. but welcome also a nice place to start. See also WP:TRI for counterbalance. Stick around.. feel free to drop any questions my way. &there4; here&hellip;&spades; 02:13, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

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Rick Warren
I'm beginning to suspect that the Pulitzer Board could not write a paragraph acceptable to everyone. I am struggling to see the long step back in your rewrite. Kevin (talk) 05:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks Kevin. I've been through one WP editing negotiation before but nowhere near as exhausting.  My one goal has been to add "which eliminated the right of same-sex couples to marry" to the mention of Prop 8, and while trying to persuade a couple of people that this addition will be helpful to the reader, I have ended up trying to help unstick other things that seem terribly stuck.  Normally I'm good at facilitating this kind of thing, but in this case I've been having a hard time dragging specifics out of people.  I'm glad for the presence of some admins. Benccc (talk) 05:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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Please revisit your original post here
Whilst I understand it was not your intention your original post to Teledildonix has had a less than satisfactory result. I wonder if you could go back to that post and add some further appropriate words please?-- VS talk 02:58, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up VirtualSteve. Benccc (talk) 03:24, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Pleasure.-- VS talk 09:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Warren
Your efforts at organizing and coordinating the discussion have been most helpful. Thank you. Would you be willing to assist with the compiling of material for further discussion? Any suggestions would be most welcome. Sunray (talk) 20:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll assist as much as I can. I had envisioned we'd build a queue of specific points to resolve, with things grouped thematically (i.e. there may be four or five distinct points related to Prop 8, so they'd be grouped together and we'd work through them one by one before moving on to another group); shall I work on compiling such a queue, or do you have something else in mind?


 * Many of our disputes involve conformance to policies and guidelines, and many different policies and guidelines have been invoked, and I think a key to getting us unstuck will be to look at specific instances of this and take advantage of your understanding of policies and guidelines to help us resolve them. It's my hope that this process will help us do that.  I don't see much buy-in yet, but I believe this process will produce results and the results will lead to buy-in, as long as everyone sees the process as fair. Benccc (talk) 17:08, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds great. Go for it. I think that the more we can get participants to take over the better. In the end it will be the participants who resolve the dispute. You were the first to step up, but hopefully others will as well. I'm happy to provide policy interpretations, as needed. Sunray (talk) 18:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Benccc, thank you for using gentle language and polite words in the most conflicted circumstances. I wish i had your patience, i don't think i'm cut out for activities which require such an enormous level of continuous calmness, i can't seem to hold my feelings back when i try to say things. But you do so well, and i am grateful. It would be wonderful if more people (especially myself) could be as diplomatic. Somehow i suspect you have professional skills in real life which involve dealing patiently with all kinds of difficulty. People like you could make the greatest mediators and dispute resolution negotiators. You have my admiration. Have a pleasant weekend ~Teledildonix314~Talk~4-1-1~ 07:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Teledildonix314, thank you for your generous comment. Benccc (talk) 19:25, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Great work in the past couple of days, Benccc. Thanks. Sunray (talk) 08:13, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

request for possible Representation in formal Mediaton
Benccc, regarding a way to make progress more efficiently, i would like to consider this part of the formal Mediation policies:


 * In common cause a group of disputant users can, in consensus, choose to dispute through mediation with a single disputant or another disputant group. Disputant groups may choose a representative from amongst them to serve as a spokesperson. It is sometimes helpful to have a single voice that represents the group; however, it is possible to have a mediation where all disputants take part.

After so many weeks of covering a lot of the same ground, i am thinking that this could be a way to more efficiently reach our goal of writing an accurate biography. I've looked at the "Items to be Mediated" on the case project page, and i've been looking at the comments presented by you, me, and all the other participants. As far as i can tell, all of your suggestions and offerings have been generally parallel to my own, and it looks like we have an identical goal (a Neutral point of view, inclusion of a broad range of Reliable Sources, avoidance of any kind of whitewashing, avoidance of coatracking or belaboring any issues which are not strictly relevant and pertinent). Also i have been doing a lot of thinking about my own personal limitations in interpersonal communication, and about conflict resolution in general. I think it would be far more efficient for me to ask you to be "Representative" of my presence in the Mediation. If you accept, i would still follow along as usual, but i could simply let you do all the talking, as your comments always seem to be so much more level-headed and concise and Neutral than mine.

If you think this would work out well, i imagine our mediator Sunray would appreciate us proceeding thusly, for efficiency and expediency of reaching our goal of resolving Mediation to write the best article possible. Perhaps some of the other participants will also look at this as a way to streamline, so i will go to their TalkPages and mention this option. Thank you for all your patience and efforts; one way or another, i hope we can all reach a satisfactory conclusion of such a long process. ~Teledildonix314~Talk~4-1-1~ 00:07, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Teledildonix314, you and I may not agree on everything, but if you have been satisfied by my comments and recommendations, I will be glad to accept that role. I will continue to post as I see fit, and why don't you periodically let me know whether you continue to support my contributions. Benccc (talk) 06:23, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you. If i have reason to dispute something you write, i'll certainly say so; but up until now, your comments have been covering most of the same ground as mine, and yours are far more pithy, in a good way. I've also left a message to Mike Doughney about this kind of request for possible Representation in formal Mediation in case he decides to return, so we might combine all our efforts more efficiently. Good luck ~Teledildonix314~Talk~4-1-1~ 06:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

~ hooray for progress! ~
   Thanks for working out an excellent compromise in the most contentious subsection of that official Mediation! There's more work to be done on the other subsections, but i think that for your success so far, you all deserve some extra whipped~cream and a lovely berry~on~top!

~Teledildonix314~Talk~4-1-1~ 13:41, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Heh. Thank you. Benccc (talk) 19:05, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

RfC Collect
Could you give your impressions of Collect at his RfC based on your interaction with him at Rick Warren (include other if there is any thnx). The RfC is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Collect Soxwon (talk) 16:18, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Recognition

 * Thank you, Sunray! And thank you for guiding us through that mediation. Benccc (talk) 06:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

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