User talk:Bethcarey

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Draft:Patom Theory (June 6)
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Draft:Patom Theory concern
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Your draft article, Draft:Patom Theory


Hello Bethcarey. It has been over six months since you last edited your WP:AFC draft article submission, entitled "Patom Theory".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 02:00, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Patom Theory (March 25)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Patom Theory (November 16)
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Your draft article, Draft:John Ball


Hello, Bethcarey. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "John Ball".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. 1989 (talk) 19:01, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Patom Theory


Hello, Bethcarey. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Patom Theory".

In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the  or  code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. TheDragonFire (talk) 15:36, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Dagmar Evelyn Cyrulla (December 30)
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DannyS712 (talk) 03:59, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Reply to your Articles for Creation Help Desk question
Hello, Bethcarey! I'm CASSIOPEIA. I have replied to your question about a submission at the WikiProject Articles for Creation Help Desk.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:50, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

How to write an article that will not be deleted or rejected
If you're going to write an article about anyone or anything that is not you or something you are connected to, here are the steps you should follow:
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 * 3) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.
 * 4) Summarize those sources left after step 3, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer.  Make sure this summary is just bare statement of facts, phrased in a way that even someone who hates the subject can agree with.
 * 5) Combine overlapping summaries (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports) where possible, repeating citations as needed.
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 * 7) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.
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If you are writing about yourself, or someone or something you are connected with (such as a friend, family member, or your business), the following steps are different:
 * 1) If the subject really was notable, you wouldn't need to write the article. Remember that articles are owned by the Wikipedia community as a whole, not the article subject or the article author.  If you do not want other people to write about you, then starting an article about yourself is a bad idea.
 * 8a) If the article is accepted, never edit it again. Instead, make edit requests on the article's talk page.
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― Abelmoschus Esculentus  ( talk •  contribs ) 04:05, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Dagmar Evelyn Cyrulla has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Dagmar Evelyn Cyrulla. Thanks!  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:47, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Dagmar Evelyn Cyrulla has been accepted
 Dagmar Evelyn Cyrulla, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. If your account is more than four days old and you have made at least 10 edits you can create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer. Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!  CASSIOPEIA</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 01:57, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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Your draft article, Draft:Patom Theory


Hello, Bethcarey. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Patom Theory".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. CptViraj (📧) 11:22, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Kate Cowle has a new comment
<div style="border:solid 1px #9accf6;background:#f1f9ff;padding:1em;padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:1em;color:black;margin-bottom: 1.5em;"> I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Kate Cowle. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 09:53, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kate Cowle (June 28)
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Theroadislong (talk) 09:54, 28 June 2022 (UTC)


 * You might see this message twice threadislong, sorry. But I think I've removed all those peacock words, but the ones "Tug on her heart as the silent outreach of the soul toward eternal beauty" are a direct quote from Kate Cowle's presentation to the Naturalist Club, with citation Bethcarey (talk) 09:58, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kate Cowle (June 29)
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ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:47, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

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