User talk:Bletchley

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Bletchley! I have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on or by typing helpme at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on, or place helpme on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! &Lambda;ua&int; Wi  se  (talk) 14:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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Jack the Ripper edits
I realize you are new to Wikipedia, but you might want to consider that this particular article has seen a lot of argument arising out of making edits without discussing them. I think that the level of the changes you are making shoudl be discussed first. Please use the article discussion page. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  14:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You might wish to know that your edits have been over-written in the page merge (previously discussed on the talk page). This is no reflection on you, or your suggested changes. As Arcayne suggests, you may wish to get involved in the discussion on the talk page. Cheers Kbthompson (talk) 16:17, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Jack the Ripper images
Please be aware that at least two images you uploaded related to the Ripper suspects page had completely inaccurate information listed. You claimed that the Fiegenbaum and D'Onston images were 19th century works whose creators are now dead. Both images were actually created in the last couple of years as artistic interpretations. You violated the illustrator's copyright and put incorrect information in to try to justify it. Please be more careful in the future. 76.114.86.121 (talk) 20:38, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The photo composite (modern illustration created for a modern documentary, not part of actual ongoing police work) and the alleged illustration of Kosminski (that's not from 1888, it's from an unknown modern artist, used without permission) also were falsely labeled. 76.114.86.121 (talk) 20:52, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

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John Theophilus Desaguliers
I just read and enjoyed the article John Theophilus Desaguliers and I would like to thank you for your contributions to it, especially the bit about him having invented the planetarium – I find that adds a significant element of interest to the article. The infobox looks great, and the external links you added look like good sources of additional information. I see you're relatively new here; I hope you enjoy editing Wikipedia and stick around for a long time! --Coppertwig (talk) 00:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Mark Arnold-Forster
Your image of him does not seem to have taken ? RGCorris (talk) 08:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Albert Einstein - smart!

 * religion = See main text

I like this change, but for the one flaw, that for the readers that this really matters to, they won't be interested in reading...  :-(   Still I like this idea. First read, then read more elsewhere, _then_ come back with why he was obviously a Zen-Zoroastrian with Animist leanings. Shenme (talk) 02:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Nobel icons
In light of your claim of no consensus, I'm curious if you read the arguments in the full discussion section at Template talk:Nobel icon that preceded the "informal vote". In particular I'm interested in your response to the argument of how this would be handled if people started applying this to other awards, such as the Emmy, Presidential Medal of Freedom, Purple heart, etc. If you would be willing to respond to these questions at the template talk page I would be grateful. Also, given that the discussion is, at the moment, running heavily in favor of removal, it does seem rather counterproductive to add the icon to twenty-some pages, without using edit summaries immediately after posting to the discussion. Thanks, --Clubjuggle T/ C 09:36, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Please stop edit-warring and instead help the discussion reach a meaningful conclusion. Thanks. Clubjuggle T/ C 14:42, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My edits were merely restoring what was already out there in loving consensus. No war intended. I am indeed participating in the discussion. Perhaps, it is your removals before having gone through the proper process of an RfC and then a public request for deletion process that needs self-reflection. I note there were technical difficulties setting up an RfC. However, have you guys emailed wiki support to get it fixed? Can we agree that both removals and additions should cease, until the discussion has come to a conclusion? That seems symmetrical to me. Bletchley (talk) 15:08, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As I've noted in my comments on the discussion page, my edits were explicitly intended to stimulate discussion, as interested editors are unlikely to otherwise be aware of it. I did actively seek support and was basically told to contact the bot editor, who has not been around. Clubjuggle T/ C 15:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Disrupting wiki articles to make a point or gain attention is questionable under WP. The correct approach is an RfD followed by a TfDBletchley (talk) 21:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Making well-documented, good-faith edits after considerable discussion, and even then making them slowly and deliberately for the express purpose of avoiding a misunderstanding of consensus, can hardly be considered disruption to prove a point. I believe I have followed both the letter and spirit of WP:BRD, but if I have erred, please do advise as to what I missed. While I don't see where WP:RFD enters into this (please let me know if I've missed something), another editor has initiated a WP:TFD. You are, of course, invited to weigh in. --Clubjuggle T/ C 22:34, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Allen Clarke (educationalist)
I have nominated Allen Clarke (educationalist), an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Allen Clarke (educationalist). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.  Flewis (talk) 12:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)  Flewis (talk) 12:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC) I'm still writing it. Not so fast.Bletchley (talk) 12:09, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Taman Shud
Some great work on Taman Shud Case. I'm slowly trying to work it up to Featured Article status so anyhting else you can add would be greatly appreciated. Cheers --Roisterer (talk) 10:01, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up on the Taman Shud article. I'll chase it down. Good going with the other image of his handwriting too. Cheers --Roisterer (talk) 13:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hopefully I'll find some more time to search through old newspapers on the topic to further build it up. I'd say either he was a spy or someone with a huge grudge against Boxall. Anyway, between us we should be able to make the article good enough quality for at least "Good Article" status. --Roisterer (talk) 22:24, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Vice president I'd love to fuck (VPILF)
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 * Neologism. Also, the references are not reliable sources.

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AfD nomination of Vice president I'd love to fuck (VPILF)
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 * I'd recommend that you stop adding comments below every single vote that's not in favour of keeping your article. It's not going to help, and it will just get people's backs up.  That's friendly advice. Deb (talk) 13:40, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

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Infobox Scientist - religion
I think the "religion" field in the Infobox Scientist template is only supposed to be filled in if the religious affiliation had some importance in the scientist's life. I've commented on this at Infobox Scientist talk. --Johnuniq (talk) 04:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Over at the infobox discussion, I wanted to say that I like your second guideline, but I didn't because the page is getting too long and hard to follow, so I thought I'd wait until the current back-and-forth settles down. Anyway, thanks for the wording -- it looks good to me. Just one small point (that I don't mind about), re (c), the Einstein article actually says "See main text" (not "See main article"). The reason I'm over here telling you this now is that it looks like you've accidentally pasted twice in your most recent reply. I suggest you remove the one you don't want. I'll see you over there! --Johnuniq (talk) 01:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Dawkins childhood religion
The infobox is meant to be a very brief summary of the most important details of an individuals life. Dawkins childhood religion (effectively his parents religion, he really would have had no choice in the matter) is not one of those important details. It should of course be mentioned in the body of the article. But this move to try and stuff every minor detail into the info box defeats their purpose, leaving them bloated. --Michael Johnson (talk) 22:58, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Responce
I have a scientist friend in Austria, not notable so no article. She does not believe in God, but she does not really ever talk about her beliefs, nor does she write about them. That side of her life is fairly unimportant to her. In Austria, if you were registered as Catholic by your parents, a percentage of your income is deducted by the Government and given to the Catholic church. You can nominate to stop this if you please, but she does not. Why? She comes from a conservative family and lives in a conservative area. It is easier for her to go with the flow, and she does not care enough about the issues to want the grief that she would receive from stopping it. If we were to write about her, the only reliable sources we have would indicate she is a Catholic, but this would be totally misleading.

This applies to many scientists. In the era of state religions it would have been dangerous if not fatal to express a religious view not in line with the state. In the 50's, in America, when atheism was next to communism, being an atheist could have been fatal to a career. And less you think I am being one sided we have no idea how many Soviet era Russian scientists whom reliable sources label as atheists were secretly theists. My feeling is that most scientists just want to get on with their work, with as little outside grief as possible. If that means going to church once a week, so be it.

So I think that unless a scientist has written about their own beliefs, or perhaps a reliable source has discussed them in some detail, we should not discuss them, other to say perhaps that so and so was brought up in the xyz church, etc. But to put this in the info box, as a hard and fast fact, just like date of birth or nationality, is wrong. We just cannot be sure. And where we do have them discussing their religious views, as per for instance Einstein, we find they are too complex to be labled like that anyway. So what is the point? --Michael Johnson (talk) 00:03, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

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Edit on Template talk:Infobox Scientist
You seemed to have repeated yourself on Template talk:Infobox Scientist, you may want to delete one of the paras :-) --Michael Johnson (talk) 01:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

More Taman Shud
Hey there, if you haven't alrready, you might be interested to check out the latest bit of info I found on the Taman Shud Case. --Roisterer (talk) 04:31, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It keeps getting stranger, what with multiple copies of The Rubiayat found in the back of Glenelg cars and the like. I've still got a bit to go with the research but I think it is taking shape. I might even try to contact Stephen Orr to see what other sources he has. Would love your feedback on what else you think needs to be expanded. --Roisterer (talk) 00:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

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