User talk:Bluejuh

Thanks!
A heap for allowing Image:O'donnell vglive.png in Halo 3 OST by changing the license. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 19:34, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Timeline of Star Trek
Hello. I have removed the big long list of episodes that are purportedly in chronological order again. I'll explain why.

Firstly, the list is not adequately sourced. If I take what your edit comment said literally, that the sources were all 700 or so episodes collectively, well, that is completely impractical for anyone to verify. It would take weeks, even if you didn't sleep, to get all the stardates out of the episodes.

Secondly, the episodes do not actually act as a source for the information about them. If I watch a TOS episode at no point will I be told the original airdate. This information obviously has come from some other source, presumably a programme guide. That would need citing. That's not in itself an insurmountable problem, programme guides do exist.

Furthermore, it says things like "This is the most used viewing order of the Star trek series." Really? There has been a survey about viewing orders of Star Trek series?

But the main problem is the order itself. The TOS episodes are neither in strict airdate, stardate, or production order. Certainly you can't derive that order form the episodes itself. Either it has been taken from somewhere, or it might be someone's original research.

When we come into the Berman-produced shows it looks like it's been sorted by stardate instead ("Progress" is after "Suspicions", even though it aired the previous day, and "Dramatis Personae" which was aired a week after "The Forsaken" is listed before it), and it puts Generations in the 48600s. The Okudas' book, by the way, which is best source we have here, chooses to disregard the stardates for that and put Generations between Meridian and Civil Defence. But then First Contact is placed by the list out of order according to stardates (and release date). I've no idea why it's been put there, perhaps there's a valid argument to be had there, but there's no indication what it might be or where it came from.

I am, of course, open to discussion, and look forward to your reply. Be aware though that the burden of sourcing rests upon someone adding disputed material back, and I've explained to you that citing all 700 episodes of Star Trek simply won't do, even if we do want to maintain a list like this. Morwen (Talk) 10:26, 14 November 2012 (UTC)