User talk:Bobby Awasthi

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About your paste on Indian rebellion of 1857
Hi Bobby,

Welcome to wikipedia, I was reading the text you pasted (just a day back! thats fast feedback eh! :) ). I was wondering where you got that text from. Can you tell me the website that you got that text from?

Thanks a lot.
 * --Spundun 08:28, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Welcome
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Why did you get rid of Ridhi Kapoor
Kashi Jewellers is a very famous business in Kanpur, UP and she should be duly recognized.

Reply to above "Why did you get rid of Ridhi Kapoor"
ALTHOUGH YOU HAVENT SPECIFIED YOUR IDENTIFICATION, AND HENCE I AM NOT BOUND TO RESPOND, STILL...

Kashi Jewellers is a very famous business in Kanpur, UP; no doubt about it. But is Ridhi Kapuur the one responsible to have FOUNDED/UPGRADED/PROMOTED that business on her own? The answer is NO. She cannot become famous just because she is a member of a FAMILY that OWNS a (or maybe couple of) JEWELLERY SHOWROOM in a city.

The action on vandalism done from your IPP to other pages is also copied below for your information.

And what went un-noticed, is also being reverted as of now by me - Your entry to Ridhi Kapoor being one of the famous alumni in a college where she studied only for one year in Delhi!!!

This site promotes serious knowledge, is not for personal promotions of individuals.

Regards, --Bobby Awasthi 14:25, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

User talk:74.136.196.84 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Regarding edits made during September 18, 2006 ''Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. If this is an IP address, and it is shared by multiple users, ignore this warning if you did not make any unconstructive edits. Luna Santin 04:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)''

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Re: Feedback from Spundun
Hi Spundun, Thanks for the welcome, and here is your answer. That was not really a paste as parts of texts in it were pulled from various sites, including some personal homepages on Yahoo Geocities, and also UP Government websites on its cities. Most of this information which I pasted has appeared in bits and pieces in local dailies such as Amar Ujala and Dainik Jagran also. However, the authentication is only from my own knowledge, as I was born and brought up in Kanpur for 20 years before I started travelling and living out of that city. (My own ancestral village is only a mile or so away from Chandrashekhar Azad's.)

Regards, Bobby 1710 hrs (Dubai) 3rd April 2005

It is ok
Hello Mr Bobby Awasthi ... did you send me the message of thanks for re-writing Awasthi article? Actually, I also thank you or whoever sent me that message ... I have corrected the typing mistake. byeee...--Bhadani 12:51, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)- actually I had put this message on ur user page, which i am correcting now..--Bhadani 13:11, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Image Source
The image Image:Map-jalaun.gif has two problems, one is the lack of information on the source and copyright of the image. Please add this information as soon as possible. Second is the animation which means I can't follow the map at all. There is no need for the animation, please make two maps.

All the best Zeimusu | (Talk page) 12:56, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Where to learn about images
Your welcome! You can learn about image coding at Picture tutorial. Cheers! Mgm|(talk) 11:48, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)

Please don't cut and paste material from other websites without permission
Bobby, please read Copyright policy before using material from any other website. Copying other people's content without their permission is a bad thing, since it is against copyright law, as well as Wikipedia policy. Tracking down cut-and-pastes from other websites is tedious for other editors, and may lead to your being banned from editing. We welcome any original contributions from you, and you may, of course, use any source as a reference for your contributions here (that's what "external links" references are for, to credit these sources), but please do not cut-and-paste content, or generate simple derivative works from other people's content without their explicit permission to donate their content to Wikipedia. -- Karada 08:13, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Kanpur image
Sorry for the delay in replying. I had a computer problem. =  ( talk  •  contribs )= 19:25, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)
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Jalaun district map
Hi, I've recreated the Jalaun district map you uploaded (Image:Map-jalaun.gif). The new image is named Image:Map of Jalaun.png. It is 95% smaller in filesize, has a higher resolution, is cleaner, not animated and is licensed under the GFDL. Therefore I've also listed the original for deletion. Hope this is OK. Mysid ( talk ) 12:08, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Have a look at 'Category:Kanpur'
Have a look at, may be you would like to add/delete pages to this category and maintain the pages in this category. You can also have a look at the Category Talk:Kanpur. Vjdchauhan 09:31, 24 November 2006 (UTC).

Wishes
I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. --Bhadani 15:06, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: The mysterious Link you mentioned
In a much older version of the article, the article was just a list with no context, I couldn't make heads or tails of what it was a list of. If you can, maybe it can be merged into the current article. If not, no worries, the article has certainly improved. Thanks! Demi T/C 19:16, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I could relate all the surnames to be same clan, I have merged the list as suggested. :) Thanks for pointing that one out. --Bobby Awasthi 04:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I would need you there
Hi,

I hope you still recollect, you were one of the first few who spoke to me, on this forum. I need you to have a look at the discussion I added on Subhashini Ali in the following user page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rohitde

The actual article is on Subhashini Ali. Our friend does not even know the correct name of this politician (his current insert of infobox has Suhashini Ali) but he assumes some content was not suitable to stay. I could have understood rewording, but not deletion.

Regards, --Bobby Awasthi 14:18, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Bobby, Bhadani has changed since you met him long long back and he now understands wikipedia better: we are not making any encyclopedia as such but an encyclopedia by consensus and based on majority's choice. So, I feel helpless and foolish in intervening in this environment. Regards. --Bhadani 17:03, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * BTW, there are better editors & administrators whom you may contact. Thanks. --Bhadani 17:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Replying to Suhasini Ali
I believe wikipedia requires you to have citations for the same. I would be happy to have left your comments in if you had a source for them. I don't think "I was there and I saw it will count". In the sentence I removed you narrated what her posters said, and I don't think wikipedia guidelines permit hearsay. I am not attributing any motives to your edits and I would appreciate it that you don't impute motives to me.

Thank you for bringing the naming mistake to light.

--Rohitde 24:10, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Rohit, I am sure "I was there and I saw it" will not count. After all, Karl Marx did say, "Truth said once and softly will not last any far. Lies chanted hundred times and on top of voice will become Truth." Hail Marxism. I have no further comments for a dedicated ideologist. I can feel Bhadani's meaning.

BTW, the naming mistake happened twice, you need to go and correct your typo in Kanpur page too. So much for ideology! Goodbye...

--Bobby Awasthi 10:05, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

if you dont have any special to do you can wikify Olinda Borggren or Jenny ulving or Marie Plosjö/matrix17

thanx for the help. i think its quite ok as it is now thank you:). if you want to you can help me wikify sofia berntsson. /matrix17

Thanks
Thanks dude and I thought you have contributed quite a lot; more than enough to be awarded the India Star. Cheers Jvalant 22:27, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Indian Rebellion of 1857
Thanks for your recent public and private praise for my edits on this subject. I have made a few more relatively minor additions, and I think I have taken things as far as I can. I have used mainly British sources, with some Indian on-line sources e.g.Centre for Indian Military History, which deal mainly with the military as opposed to cultural aspects of the rebellion. The later British accounts e.g. Hibbert's The Great Mutiny, do address the British actions which led to the war, and the brutal nature of the suppression. To take things further would require more input from Indian sources, which I do not think I could properly weigh or edit. I have tried to avoid as far as possible any POV, and also tried to make the events fit into a consecutive timeline. HLGallon 21:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. I am sure you deserve that praise because you walked really well on a very fine line. I can understand the difficulty in getting Indian POV or sources since they are limited to native press not quoted in English press nor read by english speaking (so-called) gentry of India. There are few Indians to break into that feudal class (which wants to retain the monopoly ever since British times). Those Indians who are new English speakers but have a better understanding of ground realities are collectively tagged as Hindu Nationalists. To be honest I cannot recollect even a single english source from contemporary India that would give you the other side of story. We depend on Indian language newspaper sites which keep running series on such events (currently 1857 as it is 150th anneversary) and where local university professors publish their researches based on clandestine nationalist press of British times which became official only after 1947 albeit only for decorating the libraries. --Bobby Awasthi 05:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

heads up
You need to go here and tackle this problem. Looks like the British National Party is alive and well on wp. Cerberusheguardian 01:03, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, it seems the party went for re-elections as their flag bearer collapsed under the weight of a double belly (or psst! dual loyalty). It took only half an hour of carefree campaigning by opposition (yours truly from a POOR, THIRD WORLD COUNTRY) to romp home []. --Bobby Awasthi 14:28, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

RFAR
It appears someone filed an Arbitration case, to which you are named as a party: WP:RFAR. I'm uninvolved in this, but you may wish to make a statement in the case. Nwwaew (Talk Page) (Contribs) (E-mail me) 19:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, and thanks for your comments too. Didnt know there were logical and reasonably unselfish people too on Wikipedia. :) I would welcome them back on talk page now that arbitration has been rejected. --Bobby Awasthi 13:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for my First Barnstar
... and nice to hear from you - ah, wikipedia. If all the energy devoted to discussing what to call 1857 had been devoted to improving the quality of the historical facts contained in the article, it would win a pulitzer (an observation applies to almost anything of any actual significance on wikipedia, including the Death Star Talkpage).

IMHO 1857 is called whatever most people call it, which makes the battle on the talk page interesting. With the willingness of the mainstream media to cut-n-paste from wikipedia, articles have a habit of becoming self-fulfilling prophecies (for a real life example of this, see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/15/tom_melly_wikipedia_comment/).

If most people decide to call it a war, it would be a shame IMHO, but not terrible. "War" implies a much more co-ordinated military operation. Then again, "Mutiny" also excludes anyone but the sepoys, so seems similiary flawed. I like Dalrymple's "Uprising", which feels like a much more accurate description of the events.

Anyway, all the best. BTW Whereabouts in India are you? I travelled around the south 20 years ago now, and both my wife and I dream of going back with the kids. Tomandlu (talk) 20:42, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Civility warning
This is unacceptable and a clear violation of WP:CIVIL. You are not "only abusing an IPP address from Hyderabad, AP, India, not any individual"; you are abusing a fellow editor and creating an environment unconducive to consensus. I make no comment on the content dispute you're having, because I'm not qualified to. I also don't know the relationship history between you and that editor. Regardless, your behaviour was unacceptable, and I urge you not to repeat it. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 17:54, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Bobby - thanks for your response to this. If you feel that the IP in question is being used abusively as a sockpuppet (see WP:SOCK to clarify what is and isn't abusive use), you should consider filing a report at WP:SSP.  If not, even if you feel that the individual  is being cowardly or dishonest, I'd suggest that you WP:AGF until you have compelling reason not to.  You don't need to like or respect an editor to treat them civilly.  I hope this was helpful. Sarcasticidealist 23:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Bengal Army strengths
I hope you didn't take my correction of your quotation of Bengal Army strengths somewhere in Talk:Indian Rebellion of 1857 as rebuke. In a complicated and heated discussion, your quote didn't immediately follow the post to which you were making a rejoinder, so I missed the irony.

On one point you posted elsewhere in the same discussion, I will make a slight correction. You asserted that the army of Maharaja Sindia of Gwalior also rebelled, even though they had no need to worry about being forced to use the allegedly tainted cartridges. The "Gwalior Contingent", although paid for largely by the Maharaja was nevertheless attached to the Bengal army, and administered and commanded by British officers on much the same basis as irregular units of the Bengal Army. The Contingent had every reason to fear the same concerns as the Bengal Army.

Sindia's own private army of feudal retainers did indeed defect, but not until June 1858, when they were faced with the army of Tatya Tope, Rani Lakshmi Bai and other leaders at Morar.

I intend eventually to start a comprehensive and definitive article on the Armies of the East India Company (and the Bengal Army in particular), but it will take a fair amount of research to avoid the sort of clumsy misinterpretation which has affected the article on the Indian Rebellion. HLGallon 17:42, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

No I did not take your statement otherwise. I know my sentences take longer to come to understand. Fault is long-winded sentences used by me in writing. In any case, it is still easier to accept any shortcomings on my part or ignore anything amiss, if I do not see a clear pattern of personal interest of proving me wrong on the other side. In case of some editors on that page, it is more than evident that they keep blaming other side as Hindu or Nationalist POV pushers, but want to do the same with British POV. Thank you for being there. And yes, whenever you wish to start your suggested article, do let me know and I would definitely read and suggest. And I have no doubts you would do a great job. --Bobby Awasthi 18:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

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Nomination of Air Force School, Kanpur for deletion
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