User talk:Bobf

Bobf
I live and work in Lancashire, England and am now beginning to find my way round Wikipedia. My contributions were initially expanding the articles on the villages and towns in the area around and about. Once I gained in confidence I did some major editing on the Mask entry; and continue to maintain Wikipedia standards to this and other related sites. Bob 08:52, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Re. Waterfoot, Rossendale
Bob - I'm going to try with a relatively high-res business photocopier-scanner we have at work - I'm hoping to do it in the next couple of days when I get time - I'll let you know how I get on. Strider52 20:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Cheers Bob. Photo from scan of old postcard of Trickett's Arcade - note it doesn't have the full ironware canopy all the way round as it does today - not as good a quality as I would have preferred. I'm struggling with the map - the scanner plate is too small for the full map and I'm having to copy in sections and try to piece together as a JPEG. I'll stick with it though. Strider52 | Talk 22:06, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Sami.jpg listed for deletion
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 * By all means delete this image. It was uploaded in the process of making major edits to the Mask entry and it didn't get used. Meanwhile, I had forgotten it existed, poor orphan image! Bob 08:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Puppet
Great work on improving the article; however, almost every copyrighted image you have on the page needs to be removed because they are not considered fair use. There is a strong push on Wikipedia to remove all non-free media, especially without a strong fair-use rationale. Unfortunately, virtually none of the publicity and screen stills fall under that criteria on the puppet page. Otherwise, keep up the good work! --David Shankbone 12:45, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * David, thanks - actually other than adding a few images and removing one or two, most of the images were there before my recent work on the article. I think many of the illustrations are rather poor and hope to do some work on them too, when time allows. I'm all for free access media and would welcome non-copyrighted images.Bob 19:16, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

BobF this is a really, really great article. Have added some additional information and references. Hope you don't mind, but I have tried to make sure photos and text go together and are not with text that is not connected. There is new information on 1. Museums and 2. Schools (Universities) that specialise in extensive training. Not sure whether you know, but the next UNIMA World Congress is in Perth, Western Australia, Australia - 2008 Finneganw 08.58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, these are excellent additions to the article. It's good to see that the puppet entry, that not so long ago was really poor, is now such a sound and well referenced article. Bob 08:12, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Bob just thought I should let you know Atropos is not terribly informed about Puppetry in general. Captions were removed from photos leaving no explanation making them basically useless in your absence. Most of the new sections of the article I added. I can understand certain copyrighted images disappearing although the vast majority already exist on other wikipedia articles and appear to be copyright free. Let me know what you think. Thanks in advance. Finneganw 13:53, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Finneganw, I've noted on the Puppet Talk page that you've made important contributions to the article. I came back from a holiday break and saw that the article looked better in many ways, though I now think that it's overburdened with pictures, copyrighted or not. I also agree that for any serious research captions need to be fairly detailed, or relate directly and clearly to the text. Ultimately the new sections to the article are excellent and it's good to know that they have been contributed by someone who is informed about puppets and puppetry. Regards Bob 09:31, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Blackface in Bacup
Thanks for the heads up, Bobf, that you put on my talk page regarding an unwikify edit on the Bacup article. I was just trying to go through and wikify terms in the cocoanuts dancers portion of that article, and the blackface link seemed appropriate at the time. I understand your explanation, and I won't get into a revert war over it! It may make sense, however, to either add a section to the current blackface article to reflect the English usage of the word in the English folk dance context, or to create a new article along those lines. I leave it to your discretion. Friejose 18:02, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


 * That's a good idea Friejose. I'll do some further research and perhaps do that. Thanks. Bob 09:34, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I figured that you were good enough to add something to the blackface page, it made sense to add a dab to Bacup to reference it. If it becomes a revert, edit war problem, feel free to remove the wikilink with my agreement.  Unfortunately, you stumbled onto something that is very touchy and controversial for many Americans, although that will hopefully become less so with the past election. --Friejose (talk) 22:02, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Friejose thanks for that - we'll see. Am hopeful, things seem to be quieter at Blackface. Yes, let's hope it will become less of a loaded issue. Bob (talk) 09:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Protective masks

 * I'm great it'll make a new page. Just put  on top of the Masks section, and work for there. Also, "trivia-like" sections are discouraged under Wikipedia, so try and bullet as little as possible. Thank you! —  Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  11:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. I'm working on the page. I lifted the section straight out of the Masks article just because it was little more than a list, and wasn't up to the standard of the main body of that article. I'm absolutely no authority on protective masks so I'm hoping other editors might improve the quality of the Masks (protective) article. Regards Bob (talk) 11:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There is already a section Mask, which points to each type of protective mask described on its own page. Please avoid content forking. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:59, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Masks

 * See Talk:Mask/Archive 1. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * See Talk:Mask/Archive 1. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:09, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Puppeteer
I would like to draw your attention to the cavalier removal of a number of names repeatedly from the puppeteer wikipedia page by a couple of people who would appear to have no knowledge in this area. Would you please restore this situation as I don't want to be in breach of 3RR. Thanks in advance. Finneganw 15:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you asking some one to engage in an edit war for you?--Hu12 (talk) 14:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I've been following progress on the list of puppeteers. I think one thing is to look closely at the Embedded List guidelines and modify the entry following the Manual of Style; possibly using the suggested example of list of Indian language poets as a guide. One problem is with the definition of notability; notable on what basis? I could easily imagine the list extending to several hundred names depending on the criteria used for selection. My suggestion would be to include names in the notability list only if the claim can be supported by a short prose description outlining the basis for inclusion. I wonder what other editors feel? I'm happy to start this process if there's a consensus Bob (talk) 08:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Masks in ritual and theatre
This has incoming links, so it should be a redirect to Masks in ritual rather than a blanked page. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 15:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi NawlinWiki - I'm in the process of rejigging and hadn't got round to it; though seems you have. Many thanks and regards Bob (talk) 15:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You have again made mask into a page only about theatrical masks, losing the list of other meanings. Please explain your policy here. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Anthony, the appropriate place for discussion is on the Mask Talk Page. This has been taking place. The clear consensus among editors is to revert to the changes I have made. Please follow Wikipedia protocols and do not continue reverting this page.Bob (talk) 10:00, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

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3) I have made some proposals to add some limits to peer review requests at Wikipedia_talk:Peer_review. The idea is to prevent any one user from overly burdening the process. These seem fairly reasonable (one PR request per editor per day, only four total PR requests per editor at a time, PR requests with cleanup banners can be delisted (like GAN quick fail), and wait two weeks to relist a PR request after it is archived), but have gotten no feedback in one week. If you have any thoughts on these, please weigh in.

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List of puppets and puppet shows
Thanks. But what's it got to do with me? slυмgυм [ ←→ &#93; 21:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good Bobf! Finneganw 12.32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

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Conflict of interest policy
Hello. I don't know if you've been pointed at this before, but if you're directly connected with Horse and Bamboo Theatre, you should take a look at Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy and keep it in mind when editing related articles. Although a connected person can be a great source of information, they can sometimes be too close to their subject to be properly objective (or to restrict their edits to verifiable material). Make sure you take a look at it, if you haven't already. Thanks. --McGeddon (talk) 19:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi McGeddon, and yes I'm both involved with Horse + Bamboo Theatre and very aware of [WP:COI|Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy]]. I edit on this and any other subjects that I have a direct association with either only on a strictly factual basis, or where the information can be referenced to an external, third-party source. I will be very happy to acknowledge any failings in this regard. Best wishes Bob (talk) 07:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Good to hear it. Keep the "close relationships" aspect of the COI guidelines in mind, though - even if you think you're being strictly factual, you may be giving undue weight to a point of view that favours Horse+Bamboo, or mentioning something that's never been stated in the public domain.
 * I've just reverted your sourcing at Punchdrunk, as the opinion of a Guardian reader in comments doesn't meet WP:RS. --McGeddon (talk) 09:29, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for respecting the policies. If you ever do chance across a better source that mentions the link between the two companies, please do bring it up on the Punchdrunk talk page; it's an interesting connection. --McGeddon (talk) 16:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Peer review
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Problems at the Puppetry page
Bobf I am not sure quite what is happening at the Puppetry page. There is a user by the name of Sarah who continually removes information on two Australian puppeteers who are both well-known UNIMA members. Both of their works are in the University of Melbourne Victorian College of the Arts library and overseas as respected reference works. The British Library even has one of the works in their collection! You probably know that Puppetry is currently offered at the University of Melbourne at Masters level. What can be done to solve this problem editor as she doesn't seem to know much about puppetry and does not offer any constructive input. It is really difficult to understand why she continues to openly vandalise the puppetry page. Perhaps she has some sort of problem and needs to be blocked from editing the page for a time? It would seem there definitely is a need for an uninvolved administrator to intervene. Please get back to me. Marysally 09:14, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * All I can say from this distance is that Sarah [] appears to be a well respected and experienced editor. I have also agreed with a number of her editorial decisions in the past. However on the surface your concerns seem well founded; but we must go back to first principles, namely that Wikipedia is based on collaboration between editors and the assumption of good faith. I would advise a direct dialogue with User:Sarah laying out your case for inclusion of material. Failing that, WP:DR gives advice on dispute resolution. Best wishes Bob (talk) 07:13, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

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