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Just in case someone takes offense to my user name:

I am aware of the implications, but I lived with them all my life. My name is Bertel Schmitt, my initials are BS, they even are monogrammed on the pockets of my business shirts. I also have used this user name on Wikipedia for many years without anybody complaining. When my parents gave me the name, the abbreviation for bovine excrement did not exist. There even is a copyrighted Autobiography of BS. Nomen being omen, I chose a career in journalism and later advertising, where "Don't BS BS" came in real handy. Hence, I respectfully claim the grandfather clause. At my ripe age, I will not change my initials. If someone thinks they mean something different, then shame on his or her gutter fantasy :)--BsBsBs (talk) 21:36, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

disputed tags
Please stop adding disputed tags without a corresponding explanation on the talk page. This is improper use of the tag and may be considered disruptive. Please read the usage instructions at disputed. Thanks. Kaldari (talk) 19:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Same for the original research tag: "This template should not be applied without explanation on the talk page". Kaldari (talk) 20:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, mass tagging articles is a very bad idea. Please address one article at a time and consider fixing the problems you identify rather than just adding warning templates. Mass tagging is generally considered disruptive and unhelpful. Kaldari (talk) 20:10, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Which tag on which article bothers you? I am tagging completely unsourced lists of city populations. This needs to stop. Alternatively, I could simply remove the info. I completed a A - D today. With some notable exceptions, the vast majority of these city lists are completely unsourced and should not be on WP. Some of them have old tags that did not get results. I will not fix hundreds of lists, because their editors were too lazy. In their context, the tags are self explanatory. Unsourced info is doubtful. Creating rankings from unsourced material is WP:OR. Some hardliners even think creating rankings from sourced material is WP:OR -- BsBsBs (talk) 20:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I see you are an Administrator, and that you have reverted most, if not all of the tags. It sets a bad precedence when an Administrator anoints articles which are completely without sources and which go against the most basic tenets of WP. I would expect the opposite. Simply creating lists of cities that act as portals for the country is ok. When population data and other info is added to these cities, then it needs to be sourced. -- BsBsBs (talk) 21:01, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If you want to use the disputed and original research templates, please follow the instructions given for them. If an article lacks sources, you can add the unreferenced template to the article without explanation. The other two templates require discussion on the article talk page. Just because an article lacks sources does not automatically mean that it is also disputed and original research. Many of those city list articles date to well before our current sourcing policies and were carefully researched at the time they were written, but the sources were not added to the article since it wasn't required at the time. Kaldari (talk) 23:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, if you're interested in improving geography related articles, you may want to check out WikiProject_Geography. Perhaps you could start a list sourcing project there and get other editors involved. Just deleting or mass-tagging content generally isn't considered productive and in most cases will be reverted even if you have the best of intentions. Kaldari (talk) 23:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. You've made my case, and I rest it. -- BsBsBs (talk) 05:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Shanghai
I have added the figures and updated % as you requested in the Shanghai article/Demographics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Giorgostr (talk • contribs) 14:28, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Xie xie! -- BsBsBs (talk) 14:51, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Shanghai Santana
(moved to Talk:Volkswagen Passat )

Vielen Dank!
Just wanted to say thanks for your efforts to improve the Volkswagen-related articles. I realise this can be quite hard work, even if you are lucky enough not get caught up in an edit war! I also appreciate your efforts to avoid using original research, which must be very tempting for someone with your background! Letdorf (talk) 12:02, 1 July 2010 (UTC).


 * Kein Problem! Sometimes it is a bit hard. I always have the opportunity of creating my own reliable sources, but I hate to do that. I already see that I'm being misquoted :) Working for Volkswagen was full of surprises, and often very counter-intuitive. Finding on-line sources for stuff that happened 20 to 30 years ago is tricky. I had an extensive library, but due to many moves around the world, I had to lighten up.  B. -- BsBsBs (talk) 12:09, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you indeed! I also like you guys' instinct for providing relevant information rather than just more of it. This often seems to be a bit of a problem for pages of things with many many fans.  ⊂Mr.choppers⊃   (talk) 17:37, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Citypropernts
Template:Citypropernts has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. BsBsBs (talk) 20:27, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism
An edit based on disagreements over content is never vandalism. Please stop posting official-looking templates on my user page. They don't scare me. john k (talk) 20:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)


 * There was no disagreement over that passage. This passage had stood there for months. There was no discussion about it. You wiped it out without reason, without discussion, and without anybody having mentioned it. Along with it, you deleted several references, which now leave the article unreferenced. This and the snippy remark "If I remove the UN definition, does that mean this article is no longer a fraud?" walks, talks, and quacks like pure vandalism. As an Administrator, you should know netter. The template is not there to scare you. It's there to provide the required notice. -- BsBsBs (talk) 20:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

World's largest municipalities by population
I have listed this article of yours on AfD, you're welcome to take part in the AfD-discussion here [Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/World's largest municipalities by population].


 * Wouldn't it be nice to know who listed the article? P=lease always sign your comments. BsBsBs (talk) 08:32, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

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WP:ANI warning
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January 2012
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This is interesting. When I was raising the problems of personal attack, I am being personally attacked for alleged personal attacks.


 * No, you are being warned that comparing editors to Nazis, as you just did to me, is specifically called out as a violation of WP:NPA.Ebikeguy (talk) 18:41, 4 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Could you please cite where I say "Ebikeguy is a Nazi?"BsBsBs (talk) 18:45, 4 January 2012 (UTC)


 * The "Yellow Star" you accuse me of using was a badge the Nazis forced Jews to wear during the Holocaust, to identify themselves as Jews. Thus, your accusation directly compares me to the Nazis who forced the Jews to wear the "Yellow Stars."  Ebikeguy (talk) 19:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, so no citation. Please stop accusing other people of attacks that only exist in your imagination. End of discussion. BsBsBs (talk) 20:55, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I do not understand your response. I thought I made the association between Nazis and the "Yellow Star" quite clear.  Please explain what you mean by "no citation."  Thanks very much.  Ebikeguy (talk) 21:09, 4 January 2012 (UTC)


 * BsBsBs, your behavior in making the "Yellow Star" comment was outrageous and unproductive. Your continued obstinant attitude about it is even worse.  You should apologize.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 04:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Brandmarking individuals, or whole classes of people is inhumane and cruel. Throughout history, it was used to cow, to denigrate, to single-out for mistreatment by frenzied mobs. Requests to do so make me shudder.
 * What makes my blood freeze is when the founder of a democratic institution suddenly takes sides with voices that suggest inhumane and antidemocratic acts.
 * What makes my blood freeze is when the founder eggs people on to take real-life direct action against real-life people, and when the founder, in doing so, publicly alienates his own volunteer security forces that tried to establish much needed order.
 * What makes my blood freeze is when the founder suddenly requires apologies from people who are on the side of liberty, freedom, and civilized behavior. Before I apologize for that, I will rather cut my tongue out.
 * However, should you decide to retract, or to simply remove the statement where you encourage real-life direct off-wiki action, and real-life pillorying, encouragements which, especially when misunderstood, could turn real-life dangerous, then I will gladly apologize for anything. There is no price high enough for peace and liberty, and the protection of the individual from mob rule.
 * I have been active in keeping the Foundation funded by quietly translating reams of funds drive material. Apparently, even the Foundation cannot exist without money. You will understand that I no longer can provide unpaid services until this shameful matter is settled.BsBsBs (talk) 08:19, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

re Demand for proof or retraction
Sorry, my mistake. I retracted and apologized for my error at Jimbo's talk page. Herostratus (talk) 21:03, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikiproject Cooperation
I just recently started Wikiproject Cooperation and I thought you would be interested. Thanks for your time. Silver seren C 01:01, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Colspan and sortable tables
Could you help explain why colspan doesn't work with sortable tables at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports? Thanks. 116.48.86.50 (talk) 09:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

VW Naming
Thanks, I just happened to come across the article written by Schmitt detailing a history quite contrary to the word on the street... I was pretty suprised actually. 842U (talk) 19:16, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Hah, I see now that you, BsBsBs, are in fact Schmitt, the author of the article -- lol.842U (talk)

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Married to a Japanese?
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List of Nürburgring Nordschleife lap times
Hey there! Just checking in... why did you ping me to the above article? Cindy ( talk ) 09:48, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * To draw your attention to the talk there :) I may need your support for a badly needed cleanup. This list is going to the dogs without adult supervision.BsBsBs (talk) 10:08, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I have no expertise or knowledge subject matter, so I can offer very little in content. I was brought to the article to address disruptive editing by a particular individual. I've blocked the account for 24 hours and will keep an eye out after the block is lifted. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 10:22, 6 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Good job. Actually, this might need exactly someone without expertise in the subject matter. A lot in the list is not, or badly referenced, and there because "anyone knows it should be there." At some point, and after proper notice, the unreferenced stuff will have to be deleted, if only to trigger a search for reliable sources. When this happens, the help of an admin (congrats) would be valuable and could minimize a lot of bickering. The subject matter itself is complicated. There is no real definition for "production" car. "Street legal" is defined, but highly legalistic. My hunch is that most cars on this list were not "street legal" in the true (German) sense of the word - but who's to say? Best,10:41, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

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February 2014
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 * Thank you for your message.


 * As I said in my reply to the editor’s allegations, I did no such thing. I have been editing for many years, and I do not touch other users’ comments on the talk page. The largely incomprehensible and rambling editor was on my ignore list, I did not even read his comment. The page had massive edit conflicts yesterday, mainly caused by User:Massyparcer.  By noon today, he already had more than 100 edits to the talk page.


 * When challenged, the editor appeared to back off from his allegations. Please also note that the editor made considerable threats, after which admin [User:Ymblanter] recommended “that all edits of User:Massyparcer at the talk page get simply ignored.” BsBsBs (talk) 20:35, 20 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Also, please note that in an ANI, brought by User:Massyparcer, the editor said he would "remove the statement about censoring" after he was told that the likely cause was an edit conflict.BsBsBs (talk) 20:43, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi BsBsBs, I think I responded too quickly to what appeared to be a fairly clear diff. I accept that was an inadvertent effect of an edit conflict, and have struck the warning message. Sorry. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:49, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem. Building things creates inevitable dust. BsBsBs (talk) 09:31, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
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Thank You
Your summary on the dispute resolution perfectly outlines everything that worries me about masseypacer. Keep up the good work.Terramorphous (talk) 17:42, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. We are all in this together. BsBsBs (talk) 17:52, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Incident report
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Blocked
You have been blocked from editing for a period of indefinite for extreme disruptive editing, including WP:BATTLE, WP:NPA, WP:CIV, continual false accusations of vandalism, and more - as well-proven not only on ANI, but by your contributions since. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice:. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. the panda ₯’ 10:51, 13 June 2014 (UTC)


 * First, read WP:GAB - the wall-o-text probably won't be acted upon positively. Second, you were made aware of the ANI filing yesterday and had plenty of opportunity to respond there.  Instead, you made numerous edits after being advised - one of which was to make a very false accusation of vandalism against another editor - it was that false accusation that was the figurative straw on the camel's back  the panda ɛˢˡ”  13:55, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I am in the Tokyo timezone. Also, I do not immediately respond to an ANI, especially not to a long and rambling one full of histrionics. I usually sleep over it. I began to formulate my response when I saw Zanhe's remark. Blocked, I could not respond. Again, I did what I was told when I had turned to ANI for advice in a previous similar situation The advice was: "You do know that those edits were made over a year apart, don't you? Anyway, you were right to put the information back, but if STP tries deleting it again, bring it up on the talk page."  This is what I had done, three times. To notify the editor(s), I used the template I would and did always use in similar total-blanking situations.  As a matter of fact, when the third blank occurred withing two days, I did not revert and started to formulate a formal ANI complaint of my own. In any serious ANI proceeding, one is asked for proof that the matter was mentioned on the talk page, and that warnings were issued. I had done both. I could not file the complaint, as I was blocked. When the block came, I was already disengaged, and in the process of asking the noticeboard - again - how to handle the escalated situation. I apologized for using the word vandalizing, and I apologize again. BsBsBs (talk) 15:21, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Referencing an old discussion where you had a single opinion (that that person was not an admin is not necessarily important) is now your basis for all your activity since then? We all understand that this is a global project, and that people are across all timezones.  However, your VERY FIRST EDIT today was not to ANI, it was to launch a 100% false, battleground-style warning for "serial vandalism".  No such vandalism has ever existed.  Yet, even in the ANI you linked to above, you ALSO referred to someone as a vandal even though they also never vandalized anything.  I would bet that at least 25% of your interactions involve false name-calling, so to suddenly apologize for calling someone a vandal once is rather hollow  the panda ɛˢˡ”  16:22, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I am not an ANI expert. I turned to ANI after the 17 January attack to receive advice in a situation of which I was worried that it would repeat in the future. I received the advice. It was not the basis for all my activity since then, the advice became the basis for how to handle the specific situation, should it re-occur. When it did re-occur, I did as told. This is the Administrator' Noticeboard, and one would assume that it is at least monitored by admins. If I was given wrong advice, someone should have objected at the time. Uncorrected, it turned into official ANI advice. Yes, I used the word vandal at that point, and again, no objection, no protest. I hope you understand that I am at a serious loss when something that was accepted terminology, and recommended action in January, suddenly becomes, without warning, grounds for an indefinite block in June. I did not apologize once, it did so repeatedly, and I do so again. I learned, and I will not call someone who blanks a whole page a vandal. BsBsBs (talk) 17:15, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * A good suggestion would be to stay out of the topic—the one consisting of the List of cities proper by population, World's largest municipalities by population, etc. articles—altogether, since it seems that your behavior, especially in said topic, is the reason that you are blocked. There's a whole bunch of other things that you can do. Epicgenius (talk) 18:43, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * @Epicgenius: As mentioned above, I would cheerfully commit to a topic ban. Actually, should I be unblocked, I would declare a voluntary topic ban, and stay as far away as possible from this corrosive topic.BsBsBs (talk) 18:55, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You can definitely comply with a voluntary topic ban. Maybe you can make another unblock request and propose such a ban. Epicgenius (talk) 19:03, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I propose to voluntarily commit to an indefinite topic ban from all city list articles and their talk pages, broadly construed. BsBsBs (talk) 20:11, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, good start. WP:GAB has 2 components: a) identify and address the behaviours that led to the block, and b) propose a way forward.  You've got b) covered ... how about a) ?  the panda ₯’  22:29, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * What I read here now is far more encouraging than what I saw when I assessed the unblock request above. A new unblock request on the sort of basis that has been suggested would be likely to get a much better reception. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 08:01, 14 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I was a frequent target of BsBsBs's uncivil behaviour and often wished he would be banned from Wikipedia forever. However, his apology appears sincere this time, and he has voluntarily proposed a topic ban, which I think would be beneficial to everyone involved. So I support giving him another chance and lifting the block. He seems to be knowledgeable in the automotive industry, and I believe he is capable of being a productive editor. -Zanhe (talk) 10:16, 14 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I will consult the blocking administrator on the possibility of an unblock. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 09:57, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. BsBsBs (talk) 10:11, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Good to see you're unblocked. I've been on break, so I didn't see this till now. Epicgenius (talk) 02:21, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the sentiment. I have committed to stay away from these topics, and hence, you will understand when I won't comment. BsBsBs (talk) 08:31, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Toyota FCV
Hi. I see that you added a photo the 2015 Toyota FCV. If you are interested in this topic, you may want to start an article on Toyota FCV, since it seems like this will be an important and interesting car model. For an example of a good article about a car model, you could look at Chevrolet Volt. Other reasonably helpful articles might be Toyota Prius and Honda FCX Clarity. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:51, 26 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I could start something, hopefully, it will entice others to write more. I actually drove an FCV test mule last year... BsBsBs (talk) 23:18, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * @SsilversI have started the job at Toyota FCV. Want to help? Thank you! BsBsBs (talk) 11:42, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

[left] Hi. This is a very good start. I added some material to the infrastructure section and left you a couple of hidden comments that you can see on the edit screen. I think we should avoid long-range predictions. Also, I slimmed down the long time-line to eliminate the trash talk between EVs and FCVs: there are already more detailed comparisons elsewhere, and it's an argument that doesn't need to be in this article. Also, we don't need to give the dates in the past that things were announced, just the dates of actual developments, so that the timeline is more compact, and readers will be more likely to read through it. You state that the car is a hybrid, but you don't explain how that works. Does it also have a battery, like the Prius? We also need to give information about the expected fuel efficiency of the vehicle, acceleration from 0 to 60, top speed, safety ratings, and other performance estimates. Next steps for the article include adding independent reviews of the vehicle by car magazines, consumer reports, etc. when those are available and, once the car is actually launched, to give the actual launch dates in each major market, plus sales figures when they become available. We could also describe the stying, interior, cockpit features, and other design, electronics or cultural factors, government incentives, etc. -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:15, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


 * It has a battery and does power-regen.BsBsBs (talk) 14:21, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi BsBsBs :) i added a link to Hydrogen highway and hydrogen station into the article, maybe the infrastructure can be expanded with the Governor Brown bill for California, and the third introduction area Germany, which will complete 50 stations in 2015. New articles need a category at the bottom, so i added fc vehicle and toyota platform. keep going :) Cheers Mion (talk) 11:02, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you! We are all in this together! BsBsBs (talk) 11:10, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

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Ene-Farm Scheme
Hi BsBsBs :) If it has your interest, we lack a proper article on the Ene-Farm scheme, part of it is mentioned on Micro combined heat and power section Japan, its harder for us to get proper English information now as [] is now password protecting the EN version of the bulletin for an unknown reason. We know that the manufacturers in the scheme are moving into Europe through alliances, the picture for the US market is less clear aldo there it has an uptrend too for mchp according to . Cheers Mion (talk) 11:47, 2 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Something like this? Or something Like that? Or maybe this? Japan is opening up to cogeneration, true. I would have to dig a bit. BsBsBs (talk) 11:58, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The last 2 links are plugin BEV's as mentioned in Vehicle-to-grid, battery storage of electricity for this use is also mentioned in Grid energy storage, if you would use a battery dimensioned for driving around for supplying electricity to a house you run into 2 specifics, 1 loading and depleting is a cycle and a battery can do x cycles, so by adding another use you are shortening its lifetime making it unlikely to reach its required 10 years. If you would redimension it to handle extra cycles it would make your car more heavy and therefore less efficient in driving. If used in a grid setting you loose an additional 8% energy on cable resistance .For the second point, it depends how much energy you draw but in general batteries get depleted within 12-24 hours as a backup source, hence the use of fuel cell backups in datascenters and telecom instead of batteriesMion (talk) 12:30, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The last 2 were meant tongue-in-cheek :) .... This topic is very popular in Japan at the moment, everybody is getting prepared for the next big one .... Nobody is planning to use their car as a co-generator. BsBsBs (talk) 12:56, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * haha ok :) then i keep the first link very short, a noisy ICE electricity generator in a new jacket :), something completely different, if you run into news on Japanese fuel cell forklifts, can you update the article Fuel cell forklift, or ping me on my talkpage, so i can do it ? It seems all major brands are entering the market.Mion (talk) 13:29, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll ask around. Have been following the hydrogen story for years.BsBsBs (talk) 14:20, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

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