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Hey BuzzWoof, sorry I missed your message. The problem with these images is that Wikipedia is the free encyclopedia; we generate free content which, defined in the new resolution by the Wikimedia Foundation (the organization that runs Wikipedia) (you can see it at foundation:Resolution:Licensing policy and related content at freedomdefined.org), includes commercial reuse and derivative works. That means that, ideally, any person can make profit off of content you or I submit and should be able to do modify it. This content is, of course, licensed under the GNU Free Documentation license which means that they have to let others have the same freedom (of making profit and modifying) that they do.

The images that the mayor gave you are, unfortunately, not free. They are "for Wikipedia's use only". That is not "free" as the Wikimedia Foundation defines it. Further, they are images that could easily be replaced by someone who goes to the mayor's town and snaps a photograph; thus they are "replaceable fair use images" and should be deleted. Hope this helps. Feel free to ask any further questions. --Iamunknown 02:31, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


 * BuzzWook, I have, because of the same reasons outlined above, suggested that Image:Forchtenberg.jpg, Image:Kern museum forchtenberg.jpg, Image:Sophie scholl forchtenberg.jpg, Image:Forchtenberg christmas market.jpg and Image:Fort ruins forchtenberg.jpg be speedy deleted. If you wish to contest the deletions, you may add Replaceable fair use disputed to the image description pages.  If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.  Regards, Iamunknown 01:40, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Deleted images
Hi, yeah it can be confusing I guess. The "core" issue is that the Wikipedia project is about creating a free content ensyclopedia. That means only material that is licensed under what is considered a free license is allowed. Basicaly the copyright holder must agree to allow anyone to use the material in any way (inclding commercialy), modify it and re-distribute it (See Copyright for more). Since sometimes we are not eable to get free licensed material for everyting there is an exception that allow non-free material to be used without a proper license per the US fair use law, however the policy is to only allow this when it's not possible to get free licensed material in it's place. That's why photos of most people, buildings and things like that are not allowed unless they are freely licensed. Those photos you uploaded where not licensed under a free license, and since it would be possible for someone to take photos of those buildings they are considered "replacable" (See Non-free content for more on this). So basicaly in order to upload stuff to Wikipedia you must either have created it yourself and agree to release it under a free license, or you must have gotten permission from the creator to release it under a free license (see Requesting copyright permission for more on this), or it must be a image for wich no freely licensed equivelent could be created. Either because it's a photo from a historic event, or because trying to create our own image would be impossible wihtout infrindging on existing copyrights (for example you can't make a drawing of Spider-Man and release it under a free license becuse the character itself is copyrighted by Marvel).

Anyway yeah a a lot of things to keep in mind and you are in good company when finding it confusing, unfortunately it's not an easy consept to explain in a short enough form that most people would bother reading (it's usualy hard enough to make people understand that we rely mean it when the upload page says that images with no info on them whatsoever will be deleted), attempts are beeing made to make the upload process more of a "wizard" type experience, maybe that will help avoid "information overload" problems. Me and a few other shave also put together an "essay" called Basic copyright issues, but it's not exactly linked on the front page, so I guess few new users will ever find it... --Sherool (talk) 18:08, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

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Hello, BuzzWoof.

I'm QBay in Japan. I'm going to write an article of Forchtenberg to ja-wikipedia. I found your excellent photo on the German Page. Bild:Forchtenberg fluss.jpg is it. I'd like to use the photograph on my Japanese page. Would you upload it to Wikimedia Commons? --QBay 14:48, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for uploading the photo. I've used it for Japanese article. It makes my article better. Regards. --QBay 23:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

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Hi! Talking about the distance from Stuttgart to the Black Forest I think your suggestion is a good one we can all live with. Thanks. ;-) --Fromgermany 09:00, 5 November 2007 (UTC) PS: Hab' gerade auf Deiner Benutzerseite gesehen, daß wir DEUTSCH miteinander sprechen können. Let's keep this in mind. Tschüß!!

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Hallo, wie ich gesehen habe, hast Du den Artikel über die PIN Group angelegt. HAbe heute den Artikel in der deutschen Wikipedia überarbeitet und neu strukturiert. Es wäre schön, wenn Du den Artikel in der englischen Wikipedia überarbeiten und anpassen könntest. 83.135.251.191 Martinvoll (talk) 21:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

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List of crossings of the Danube River
Hello! I noticed your German proficiency and was wondering if you might be able to help out with the article for List of crossings of the Danube River. Also the discussion as well at Talk:List of crossings of the Danube River. Thanks a ton! --DerRichter (talk) 07:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, what exactly would the scope of "might be able to help" involve? Could you possibly expand on what you mean? As you may have seen I am currently completely overhauling the Stuttgart page, a gargantuam enough task take up almost all of the spare time I have between managing a business and being a dad! BuzzWoof (talk) 19:37, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I just meant something along the lines of checking for factual accuracy if you have been to certain places and accuracy of translations in the article. No biggie though.  --DerRichter (talk) 21:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Panoramapicture Karlspassage Breuninger
Hi BuzzWoof,

you said in past (the pictures of inside the store: 'but adds nothing to insights on Breuninger. Could be any perfume dept in any corner of the world.'). This is clear, and i understood. But this time it is a 360°-Panorama picture inside the Karlspassage. The Karlspasage is uniqe for Breuninger in Stuttgart ahd the picture shows imressive the architecture of the Karlspassage. In other articles there are often links to 306°-pictures, and some are commercial. So i ask where is the problem with this link.

with best wishes the ip —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.89.130.170 (talk) 08:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand your point, but it's interesting that the editor of the German article sees it the same way! If the article were about the building, or the architecture (like with the Mercedes Museum), I'd understand it. But this is about the company. BuzzWoof (talk) 12:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't agree with you at all. Yes the article is about the company. But this company is not a small firm i an industrial area out of town, this is one if the largest department sotres in Stuttgart. And the builings, especially the Karlspassage, form the cityscape of Stuttgart very much. And the Karlspassage is open for pedestrian all time. There are pictures from the buildings in wikipedia, why don't we show a picture from the Karlspassage? And the thing with this german 'editor'. The first editor [KaPe] set the entry to 'gesichtet' and accepted the entry. And then hours after you undit the english version he did it for the german version with the hint to WP:WB but at the Wikibooks i didnot find any hints. And he didn't answer any questions.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.89.130.170 (talk) 15:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wie auch immer. Offensichtlich ist es ganz ganz wichtig. Wenn es Schlossplatz wäre oder ein großer offene Sehenswürdigkeit, würde ich das eher verstehen. Frage mich aber schon warum das wirklich dahingehört. Und warum Du nicht einloggst und hier im Wiki offiziell auftreten willst... BuzzWoof (talk) 18:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Was das mit dem einloggen zu tun hat verstehe ich nicht ganz. Unter der ip bin ich ja auch da. Wenn ich mich mit der Wikipedia mehr identifizieren könnte, würde ich es mir schon überlegen. Meinst Du beim Schlossplatz wäre es einfacher? Ich hole mir gerade beim Hauptbahnhof (in meinen Augen auch eine Sehenswürdigkeit) wohl auch eine blutige Nase. Dort ist ein 360°-pano auf einer komerziellen Seite (mit Werbung) drin. Aber das darf ich wohl auch nicht ersetzten und zusätzlich, dann ist ja die Zahl der externen Links zu groß. Ok wenn ich hier Spam machen würde, wenn die Seite ganz offensichtlich kommerziell oder mit Werbung oder unanständigem vollgestopft ist, aber das kann man ja bei 360cities.net wohl nicht behaupten. Und dann soll ich mich mit WP identifizieren und mich einloggen. Tschuldigung musste einfach mal den Frust rauslassen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.89.130.170 (talk) 18:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * "Ich hole mir gerade beim Hauptbahnhof (in meinen Augen auch eine Sehenswürdigkeit) wohl auch eine blutige Nase." Das heisst, ich bin nicht der einzige, der hier denkt, diese 360° Ansicht - obgleich schön, obwohl interessant - irgendwie hier nicht hingehört. Ich kann es auch nicht erklären, aber der enzyklopädische Wert fehlt irgendwie. Sorry. Veilleicht einen neuen Artikel über die Karlspassage schreiben - dann würde ich das verstehen. BuzzWoof (talk) 08:43, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Beim Hauptbahnhof ist ja ein Link zu einem 360°Bild drin. Allerdings zu einemr kommerziellen Webseite mit Werbung und da schon ein paar Jahre alt von der Qualität nicht so besonders. Zuerst habe ich einen Link zu 360cities (nichtkommerziell) danebengesetzt. Aber der war so schnell wieder draußen, der der ihn rausgenommen hat konnte in dieser Zeit keine der beiden Seiten besucht haben. Und ich denke eigentlich, dass die 'Betreuer' der Seiten in so einem Fall schauen sollten welches der bessere ist und wenn sie der Meinung sind dass zwei einer zuviel ist den schlechteren rausnehmen und nicht Besitzstandswahrung treiben, schließlich soll ja WP besser werden. Dann habe ich, was mir mal ein 'wohlmeinender' admin in einem ähnlichen Fall geraten hat, den Link ersetzt und im Kommentar auch klar dazugeschrieben warum. auch dies wurde ohne Kommentar rückgängig gemacht. Eine Anfage in der Disk des betreffenden Benutzers wurde bisher ignoriert. Hier hat man dann das Gefühl man ist unerwünscht, was die Motivation zur Mitarbeit beträchtlich erhöht. Was den enzyklopädischen Wert dieser Art von Bildern angeht, bin ich anderer Meinung. Ich denke zur Veranschaulichung sagen diese Bilder mehr aus als "flache" Bilder. Es ist ja leider bei Wikipedia aus verschiedenen Gründen nicht Möglich solche Bilder anders als als externe Links einzubinden, was dann gleich bei manchen Admins die Alarmglocken ertönen lässt. Andere Multimedia-Enyklopädien (kommerziell) zahlen inzwischen für die exklusive Nutzung von interaktiven 360°-Bildern schon einiges an Geld! Aber die WP ist hier durch ihre 'demokratische' Struktur viel zu schwerfällig. Und da solche Bilder (schon allein wegen des technischen und zeitlichen Aufwandes) meist von "Profis" gemacht werden kommt man wenn man zu solch einem Bild verlinkt schnell in den Verdacht des Werbenden. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.89.130.170 (talk) 09:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Hallo, wollte Dir nur noch kurz bescheid geben, dass ich mich durchgerungen habe mich doch bei Wikipedia (zunächst deutsch) anzumelden. Gruß Hd pano -- 91.89.130.170 (talk) 18:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Stuttgart
thanks for your message. I will have to get back to you however, there are quite a few articles sourced from other language versions on Wikipedia, they still must be referenced even if it's a foreign language! Michellecrisp (talk) 13:47, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

= Stub status on Botnang =

Having read the quality scale for articles, I'd be interested to know the rationale for rating the above article as a stub. I noticed it says on the talk page tag "If you rated the article please give a short summary at comments to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses.". Could you possible provide some comments as I set up the page and am keen to do anything to raise the standard. Considering it's a translation of the German article, which is about as comprehensive as you can get for a suburb with 13,000 inhabitants, I'm surprised it's only a "stub". BuzzWoof (talk) 18:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out, when tagging thousands of pages, mistakes like these are easy to make. On analysing the article quality, I felt a B Class and Mid importance rating was sufficient, if you feel differently, I would appreciate any opinion.

OOODDD (talk) 18:55, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

= Pears Soap =

Hallo BuzzWoof (da du Deutschkenntnisse auf muttersprachlichem Niveau angibst, erlaube ich mir, dich auf Deutsch anzusprechen); ich würde gerne den Artikel Pears soap für die deutschsprachige Wikipedia übersetzen. Die Angabe According to Unilever records, Pears Soap was the world's first registered brand stammt von dir und du hast dabei als Quelle "source: me, I used to be the brand manager" angegeben (am 4. September 2007). Nun halte ich diese Angabe für interessant und wichtig, sicher in der deutschen WP auch hilfreich, falls irgendjemand Zweifel an der Relevanz haben sollte. Aber gemäss WP:NOR bräuchte es dafür eigentlich eine zitierfähige Quelle ("Wikipedia does not publish original research or original thought. This includes unpublished facts ...."). Weisst du von irgendeiner Publikation, auf die man sich berufen könnte? Gestumblindi (talk) 22:17, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Response here BuzzWoof (talk) 08:43, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Danke für die Antwort. Schade... wenn es nichts Veröffentlichtes dazu gibt, muss ich das Faktum in meiner Übersetzung wohl gewissenhaft weglassen, aber dann kommen sicher Leute, die in der deutschen Wikipedia aufgrund der geringen Bekanntheit dieser Marke im deutschsprachigen Raum gleich einen Löschantrag stellen werden - das Alleinstellungsmerkmal "älteste Marke der Welt" hätte die Relevanz gleich schön klargemacht. Gestumblindi (talk) 18:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

= Stuttgart Ballet =

85.180.37.197 is an unregistered editor who's never done anything else on Wikipedia and well may not return; it would be nice if you were to restore the text that he or she so generously provided — and edit it if it is not to your satisfaction (it's not the loveliest on Wikipedia, but please restore it in any case.) I have not seen the company and generally restrict my writing to matters of which I have first-hand knowledge. — Robert Greer (talk) 03:24, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Agreed the content is useful, but it's not on plastering stuff on articles then expecting others to mop it into shape! I've just moved home and my wife's expecting and and and. If you want, feel free to restore yourself and edit. Thx. BuzzWoof (talk) 21:24, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Porsche Museum, Stuttgart
Hello BuzzWoof, I'm living close to the Porsche site. I will take some daylight photos of the object soon, after the opening next week hopefully. Thanks for the help.--RudolfSimon (talk) 13:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Though I live and work in the same area, and write a lot of stuff about Stuttgart and related articles, getting photos is never easy! Much appreciated. BuzzWoof (talk) 18:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

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