User talk:Captainbarrett

Where are Things Today? 12/11/09
Hi Everyone, My name is Barrett Dylan Brown. I am a writer, student, lower-tier member of the digirati, journalist, technological theorist, voracious reader, and I maintain a bare minimal Internet presence.

I still don't get enough computer time to actually deal with everything digital that I wish I could. Accept my apology. I am the same Barrett Brown who wrote "Information Flow on Campus: A Closer Look at Wikipedia" in 2600 Magazine, as well as three other articles to date. Special Thanks to user:Becksguy for reposting the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Becksguy/Information_Flow_on_Campus:_A_Closer_Look_at_Wikipedia article on Wikipedia! I've also been published in 3:AM Magazine, Because People Matter, and the Sacramento City Express.

Sadly the chances of an Ebony entry in Wiki seem dead for the time being. I don't have time to work on it, but the more time that passes, the more information about him I find available on the web. I don't know how many years until a blocked article can be brought up again, if ever, but the weakly used "Not Notable Enough" argument has to be crushed by the weight of evidence eventually. It's just a matter of time and patience. He was a legend. Bless his heart in heaven.

Here are my other web links:
 * 1) http://wwww.goodreads.com/barrettdylanbrown/ My Library Records ;)
 * 2) http://www.facebook.com/captainbarrett/      My Facebook
 * 3) http://www.myspace.com/captainbarrett/       My Myspace
 * 4) http://www.google.com/profiles/Barrett.Brown My Google Profile

Here are some links about my Writing\Academic\Journalism Career:
 * 1) http://www.3ammagazine.com/3am/bakersfield-synchronicity/ 3:AM Magazine Non-Fiction Short Story "Bakersfield Synchronicity"
 * 2) http://web.mit.edu/renakatz/www/cultureshock/essays/essay11.html MIT Magazine Cites my 2600:Cyberwar Article
 * 3) http://www.mcgrewsecurity.com/2007/10/07/review-2600-the-hacker-quarterly-autumn-2007/ Praise for my 2600:INNOPAC Article by Security Company
 * 4) http://infontology.typepad.com/infontology/2008/11/men-vad-ska-man-tro-om-wikipedia.html Swedish bloggers praise my 2600:Wikipedia Article
 * 5) http://ramaryl.blogspot.com/2008/10/hacking-system-manipulando-la-wikipedia.html Spanish praise for my 2600:Wikipedia Article
 * 6) http://tazbuntu.blogspot.com/2008/07/telephone-tree.html American Blog article cites my 2600:Holding Action Article
 * 7) http://2600.wrepp.com/article.php?i=83&a=1273 Wrepp database entry of my 2600 Article
 * 8) http://2600.wrepp.com/article.php?i=79&a=1196 Wrepp database entry of my 2600 Article
 * 9) http://2600.wrepp.com/article.php?i=82&a=1252 Wrepp database entry of my 2600 Article
 * 10) http://2600.wrepp.com/article.php?i=81&a=1243 Wrepp database entry of my 2600 Article

Captain Barrett (talk) 20:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

=2600 Magazine= Hey saw the article in 25:1, great read. Wanted to see end results of the struggle and found your page. Thanks for the interesting piece. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.71.68.115 (talk) 22:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for reading! That article was republished on Wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Becksguy/Information_Flow_on_Campus:_A_Closer_Look_at_Wikipedia

As of today I also have three more article published in 2600 Magazine, mostly during 2008. The results of that Wiki article currently, sadly, remain as they did five years ago. The corrupt admins won over my proposed article by wiki-lawyering and working together to power-broker votes (as well as clandestine "anonymous" edits through proxies, etc). Not to mention the fact that I just got too burned out to keep reading wiki files and writing just to defend this one article for the priciple of the thing. Thats one of the many reasons why I don't use Wiki much anymore. Ebony Anpu, Frater 137, and Charles Reese, (Three of his most used names) are all permanently blocked from use still.. Mysterious. They denied his picture because they didn't want people to recognize him. They attack to stop the article. But, why? What was Ebony hiding that makes him to important and so reviled? Maybe we wont know for 100 years. Thanks for your interest. Captain Barrett (talk) 22:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

=Philip J. Corso=
 * Thank you sooo much for adding your information! I modified the text appearance a little and the way the references were written, I hope thats ok with you? (:O) -nima baghaei 14:44, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The title paranomral is being given to all Ufologist, its just a base or standard categorization being applied to Ufologist universally -nima baghaei 17:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey actually, if you can find an infobox related to military or army, that we can use for him instead of paranormal, that would be great! (:O) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nima Baghaei (talk • contribs) 17:55, 10 February 2007 (UTC).


 * hee, I was just writing the same suggestion. I think we are on the same wave-length.... although I notice that General MacArthur doesn't have a military tag, per se.  Just a box listing his military accomplishments...we could do that? Captain Barrett 18:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, I have updated the infobox to an army infobox (:O) -nima baghaei 22:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * re: Nina, Hi there! I think I finally figured out cites and my talk page :) Sorry for any confusion.  I need to hit the library for more refs on Corso, but it has been a lot of fun!  Thanks Nina. <3 Captain Barrett`

Citing References

 * Citation_templates Hey, this may help ya with future reference citation, I always use this page, hehe (:O) -nima baghaei 01:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * yeah, for some reason the reference section was popping up empty for me. I blame my cookies, but thanks :)
 * It wasn't my cookies, it was the fact that I didn't know how to cite.  Now I do, thanks for help :)  <3 Captain Barrett 21:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

=Knights Templar= Hiya, thanks for your message. :) I didn't delete your info...  I just moved it to another article, Knights Templar legends.  Right now there's a big push on the Knights Templar article to get it to an official Good Article status, which it means it's under the microscope.  As such, we're trying to "polish up" the article as much as possible, which means that we're being very very careful about citations, and trying to limit it to the "core" info about the Knights.  All other info is being moved out to the subarticles such as the Legends one, History of the Knights Templar, Knights Templar and popular culture, and so forth.  If you'd like to help with the process, feel free!  One of the highest status things that any editor can do or claim on Wikipedia, is to be able to point to a bunch of Good or Featured articles that they've worked on, so if we can get the Knights Templar article to "Good" status, it's a nice feather for your cap. :) The main way that you could help right now would be with citations -- we're trying to make sure that every major claim in the article is linked to a reliable source that confirms that data, so if you have access to other reference books and could help with sourcing, that'd be great.  There are also a list of comments at the current  Peer review, so you could maybe pick one of those and work on it. As for the pirate info, do you have other sources which confirm the link with the Skull and Bones?  Or is it all from the one book? --Elonka 01:02, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

=Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth= Hi, I noticed you added Bill Breeze as an influence on TOPY. I was wondering where you got this idea. Crowley was certainly an influence but I disagree that Bill Breeze was. user:prenna 03:23am, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey there, sorry about the late response, but I have been caught up in issues with an Admin. I added Breeze as a hypothesis. He is head of the OTO, but he was also a member of most of the bands involved in TOPY (and he is one of the few influences that has a wiki page) so I added him.  Am I wrong? =) 03:50, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'd say he was involved in connected groups but I'm not sure he was an influence. I don't know enough about his involvement to judge so I've not removed it or anything. Cheers! 02:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You could always rephrase the article to say that :) Seriously, I just inserted it as an educated guess, but if making it a more general statement adds to truthiness and W:NPOV, then I say go for it! Captain Barrett 05:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

=Ebony Anpu=

Sorry, I didn't close the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-delete it... I just blocked some open proxies that were involved in the AfD and removed a copyvio tag that didn't assert the source long before the AfD. I really have no opinion on this article. Coredesat actually closed the deletion discussion from what I see.--Isotope23 20:20, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the confusion, thanks for your response. The fact that you have no opinion on this article is _exactly_ why i was hoping you would get invloved.  So far the only other Admin is Jeffrey and he has made his POV quite clear.  If this is ever going to get a fair examination, I need people with no opinion.  Please, please, consider looking over all the info.  Captain Barrett 20:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Jeffry Gustafson's Corner
"Many admins and editors seemed to think all the information met with WP standards." This statement is false. All the folks replying to the first AfD were not Admins. Many of the folks replying to the second one saying delete are admins. Gee wiz. Most of the folks replying keep on the first AfD were doing so because the AfD had been started by anons - look at their comments. They were not commenting on your article. After I reset the AfD, I notified every single person that voted in the first one. Now, with the current AfD that has had plenty of attention from experienced editors and admins including those who saw the first one, nearly every single person has said that the article should be deleted because it does not come close to meeting our standards of inclusion, standards admins know about more than you, for sure. Everyone voting in that AfD have looked at the article, not just my comments. To say I have caused the article to be deleted when more than twenty people have said to delete it is delusional. To say that "Many admins and editors seemed to think all the information met with WP standards. Again, all my material _does_ meet all guidelines." is not only a lie, but if you believe it, truly delusional as well. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - &lt;*&gt; 19:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It is true that I am a little too interested in the circumstances surrounding this particular AfD. But what is sillier:a newbie (ala me) getting caught up in all this, or an experienced Admin (like you)?  You too seem very unusually interested in all this.  Why didn't you just hand this contentious thing over to any of those other admins you mention, a long time ago? Captain Barrett 19:14, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hand what thing? In case you forgot, I cannot decide the AfD or delete the article.  I'm stuck in this because you continue to make unfounded and ignorant complaints about me.  AND you opened up an RfC.  Again, you are delusional if you don't think I will defend myself against such trolling.  I will not cease doing my job because some troll decides to be more persistant than others.  I have been doing this too long to intimidated in any way. And while all of your edits have been obsessing over me, a mere fraction of my actions have been about this issue.   Be as persistant as you want, it just wont work at getting me to not do my job.  --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - &lt;*&gt; 19:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Of course you should not be kept from doing your job, I desire nothing of the sort. But you have not just been an Admin in this AfD.  You have been an active  _participant_ as well, constantly debating with myself and others.  Asserting your POV on the AfD.  On the top of the Second Afd you write This individual is non-notable, see this google search  rather than There are questions about this subjects notability  That constitutes much more that "Oversite."  Can you see the difference? Captain Barrett 19:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Where have I asserted my "POV" on the AfD? Have I replied to keep votes with counter arguments?  Nope.  Did I try to keep the article deleted after Coredesat's deletion?  Nope - indeed, I restored the article and the AfD.  And again, you only read what you want to read: I did not express my opinion that the individual was not notable, I simply repeated the deletion arguments of the previous AfD.  This has been pointed out to you before but you continue to ignore it to your detriment.  --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - &lt;*&gt; 19:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm tired of dealing with you, Jeff. If you can't be civil, I have no reason to work with you.  Good luck. Captain Barrett`

Your personal attacks on the Ebony Anpu AfD have been removed. The next time you make a personal attack against any editor you will be blocked from editing. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - &lt;*&gt; 17:26, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * What was a personal attack? I was making an honest observation.  I do not understand why you removed them = censorship.  There was _zero_ libel or slander.  You are abusing your power.  Captain Barrett 17:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You are at the very least failing to WP:AGF here on the part of Jeffrey. I'm not involved in this AfD in anyway (my only contributions so far have been to recommend the AfD not be speedily closed so at the end there is a clear indication that there was a consensus stemming from the AfD and a comment that I was blocking TOR !voters per WP:OP).  I have no vested interest here either way so hopefully you will take what I say as a neutral, outside party.  Please comment on edits, not the editor.  I understand that you disagree with what Jeffrey did, but attacking him in the AfD is the wrong way to go about this.  If you have a concern that an admin has acted inappropriately you can post a message on WP:AN/I asking for some discussion or review of the admin's action.  The AfD should be for discussion the merits of the article, not for discussing the motivations of other editors/admins.  Thanks.--Isotope23 18:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm learning, thanks :) Making this article has been a wonderfully informative experience. 128.114.238.174 22:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)(captainbarrett)


 * Comment this matter is also discussed in WP:ANI under "Need another admin to have a chat with a user (added by Jeffrey)". Captain Barrett 21:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Please don't cry "abuse" etc. - you'll only end up blocked.  Daniel.Bryant  20:50, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Reached Chandra Reese-Friese, Charles Resse's only living child. She confirmed free use copyright for all pictures of him.  Contacted Mark Newcomb, who is in possession of many pictures of Charles Reese and also runs a memorial web site for him.  He confirmed that Reese's ex-wife gives full free use copyrights.  I upploaded the image to Wikipedia Commons with the proper tags.  I also opened a file in DRV about the picture.  The confusion was mostly mine, but now that I have the picture properly tagged, it should be no problem.  Thanks for your time on this and please let me know if there is anything else I should read re: Wiki policy :) . Captain Barrett 22:15, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry for all the time this is taking. But I beleive I am acting on procedure, nothing personal.Captain Barrett 20:55, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment- I am not positive, but i believe Daniel.Bryant is referencing WP:ANI "Jeffrey O Gustafson" and WP:DRV "Image:Bwebliesl.JPG". Captain Barrett 21:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I'm responding to and your edit summaries on Ebony Anpu when it was removed. I am not interested in the ANI bickering. Cheers,  Daniel.Bryant  21:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, on behalf of all new editors I appreciate you patience with me. :) Captain Barrett 22:20, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I will unprotect the page provided you do not put up the photo. Having the photo, which is in violation of Wikipedia policy, will not help the page. Providing independent 3rd party sources will help it. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - &lt;*&gt; 12:39, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * There are many different photos of Ebony I could put up. Please tell me what I need to do to get proper authorization.Captain Barrett 15:34, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Putting up a photo has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the article is deleted, nor will it change the delete votes on the AfD as the substance of the discussion is about the verifiability of the sources and the notability of the subject. As we have very strict image policies (and for good reason), and due to the nature of the material, I do not foresee any photos being allowed in the near future.  Do not worry about photos, and instead worry about seeing whether or not the subject meets notability guidelines and the article meets verifiability guidelines.  --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - &lt;*&gt; 18:03, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Why are you avoiding my question? Captain Barrett 22:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Can you honestly tell me, after reading the diffs, that his demeanor towards me was civil, and befitting an Admin who assumes Good Faith, practices Civility, and helps Newbies?Captain Barrett 19:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Part of the problem here is your obsession with me. OberDicta is trying to help you out with article content, yet you complain again about me.  You will not get far on Wikipedia by obsessing over single users rather than article contributions.  --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - &lt;*&gt; 19:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yup. You know what, he probably could have acted differently.  However, you weren't exactly a paragon of civility yourself.  So you both had some guilt in a relatively minor dust-up.  I don't know why you continue to drag this out. Drop the stick.  Now, step away from the horse carcass.  ObiterDicta ( pleadings • errata • appeals ) 21:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

jeff
Hey,

Can I trouble you to have a word with Jeffrey about his incivility toward you, yours truly, and other editors? He hasn't responded positively to my attempts to help him see how a negative attitude toward users harms the community, and I thought perhaps another voice might do some good.

Thanks :)

—Adrian Lamo ·· 2007-02-23 02:27


 * I really appreciate your concern. It's nice to see that good people are also on wiki. I feel like I have tried my best with Jeff. I have tried to mediate with him to no avail. His language seems so ill-intentioned to me that I do not even want to deal with him any more at all because every interaction is so unpleasant. I opened an RFC in the hopes that others will deal with his incivility. He apparently has many similar complaints from other editors over a period of years, but it seems like nobody is willing to do anything about it. :(. Captain Barrett 05:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Ebony Anpu
An editor has nominated Ebony Anpu, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not"). Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. Jayden54Bot 10:14, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


 * To User:Captainbarrett (and not the bot) Re. your recent comment on Talk:Ebony Anpu -- I encountered nothing but goodwill and cooperation from the OTO so far (though it's yet to be seen if it's genuine) in my efforts to provide procedural assistance in bringing the content of your article in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Though that's probably not a universal trait ...
 * —Adrian~enwiki (talk) 2007-02-13 00:46Z </span


 * Bill Heidrick (cited in article) would be a great contact if you can get a hold of him, he is a highly very senior member and knew Ebony well, I believe he would be willing to find more data for us. thanks for all your attention to this matter.<3 Captain Barrett 02:52, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you know his middle initial, age, or state of birth/residence ? —Adrian~enwiki (talk) 2007-02-13 08:54Z 
 * Captain Barrett 16:31, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Just talked with Bill Heidrick, he refferred me to Ebony's wife, still living, I am looking into contacting her. Captain Barrett 23:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Your options
Discussions at WP:ANI are automatically archived by a Bot once they have been present for a certain number of days. This happens whether the matter is resolved or not. If you wish to pursue the matter further you have 3 options: I hope that helps. My honest opinion is that you won't achive very much through options 2 or 3. If your ultimate aim is to make sure that there is an article on Ebony Apu on Wikipedia, I suggest you work on making a strong case (supported by reliable independent sources) that he is important enough to deserve an article. If you have questions, do get in touch. WjBscribe 19:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Find better sources to confirm the notability of Ebony Apu. That doesn't mean sources to confirm that he existed, but ones that confirm he's important. The notability threshhold is designed to ensure that Wikipedia is not overwhelemd by articles about everybody. You should find reliable third party accounts that talk about why Ebony Apu is significant. Obvious examples would be: a biography written about him, news reports discussing him, awards or accolades he achieved. If you can provide a convincing case, you should be able to persuade an administrator to restore the article.
 * 2) If you believe the article in the form that was deleted complied with Wikipedia's standards on notability and that this was supported by reliable sources, you can seek a review of Coredesat's decision to close the AfD as Delete. To do so you need to make a request for a deletion review at WP:DRV.
 * 3) If you want to invite comment about User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson's conduct in this matter, you can file a request for comment at WP:RFC/U. The format for such a request can be seen here. Note that a request for comment must be certified by two people to say that they tried to resolve the dispute but were unsuccessful, otherwise it will deleted after 48 hours.
 * Thank you for all the assistance. The problem is that I did firmly and soundly explain Ebony's notability, with sources, but it was changed by Jeffrey many edits ago.  The sources and notability has never been attacked by anyone as virulently as Jeffrey.  Even after I present new evidence he just repeats his POV mantra "He is _not_ notable."  There is no way to convince someone who has already made up their mind, but I am confident that, if given the opportunity to re-write and re-phrase (without Jeffrey interfering), and given Admins with true NPOV, it would be passed with no problem.  I can refference at least five other articles, _not nominated for deletion_ that has even less that Ebony's, yet they are still up.  This is suspicious. Captain Barrett 20:05, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Advice on getting your material into WP
Based on the current state of Articles for deletion/Ebony Anpu, it appears that the biographical article you created will be deleted. If you have material that, based on Wikipedia policies and guidelines, you believe should be covered here, several options are open. First, you could create an article about the "Hawk and Jackal" system that established sufficient notability. A caution, though: this could look like an attempt to recreate deleted content and so may be deleted for that reason. Your persistent efforts on this topic have rather poisoned the well, unfortunately, so that the system itself may have to be clearly notable, rather than just borderline, to survive an attempt at deletion. Another, and perhaps better, option would be to find existing articles where this material would be relevant and add it there. Happy editing, ObiterDicta ( pleadings • errata • appeals ) 16:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * This is the issue, isn't it. I had no problem getting any material onto WP, before Jeffrey.  Many admins and editors seemed to think all the information met with WP standards. Again, all my material _does_ meet all guidelines.  I have checked and rechecked.  Jeffrey reapeating "He is not notable" does not make it true.  Thank you for your advice, but if Admins are encouraged to power-broker the way that Jeffrey has and if noone will take the time to investigate closely the actions of  an un-ruly Admin, I don't think I will be using Wiki after this case is cleared up, because clearly the process in vulnerable to manipulation.Captain Barrett`
 * Also I wish to make clear, my "efforts" have not been about this topic. They are about an Admin that is not acting in a helpful manner. Since I noticed Jeffrey's bad behavior towards myself (and others, see this RFC about a similar matter one year ago) I figured I would find out how functional the Wiki dispute resolution processes are.  So far I have been less than impressed.  It seems like some people are more concerned with threats and misdirection, then facing the issues at hand.  As a new user I do not undertand why people involved in Jeffrey's case keep giving me advice about how to get my material included.  If you look at my history, you will see that I made an addition to the knights Templar page.  The Admin there moved my material.  I asked her "why" and she explianed clearly and courteously, and that was all, _no problem_.  Jeffrey has never answered a single query about one of his edits, and courtesy does not seem to be in his vocaublary.Captain Barrett 18:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm glad you have had better luck getting your material about other topics in WP. Numerous editors have opined that Ebony Anpu does not meet the notability criteria, not just Jeff.  I am trying to give you advice on how to get your stuff incorporated because there is nothing that compels me to "choose sides."  I think you have something to contribute to WP, but are being distracted by your campaign against one administrator.  Maybe he could have been nicer to you, but his treatment of the AfD was not out of process. ObiterDicta ( pleadings • errata • appeals ) 19:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)