User talk:Cf2022

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COI warning
Declaring your COI does not mean that you are allowed to add materials that promote it. Like every other editor with a significant COI, you should make suggestions in the Talk pages of articles and allow editors who don't have a COI to evaluate and possibly carry them out. ElKevbo (talk) 07:45, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. ElKevbo (talk) 07:55, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It has been suggested there that your edits have been 'primarily or exclusively promotional.' If further study confirms that, you are running a risk of getting blocked. So it would be in your interest to respond. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:01, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, I'm sorry. I wasn't aware that I was violating any standards by adding primary references that expanded on points if I had declared a COI. I'll definitely address this issue. Can you please let me know how I would be able to make suggestions on talk pages? Thank you. Cf2022
 * You can use the request edit template on the Talk page of each article. Alternatively, you can also make suggestions, lodge requests, and raise questions on Talk pages without using that template.
 * Additionally, if you're editing while logged out to continue these activities then you need to stop immediately. Using other accounts - "sockpuppets" - is generally not permitted, especially when it's clearly being done in bad faith and you'd likely be blocked from editing if this continues. ElKevbo (talk) 06:27, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes, you're 100% correct. I made the changes before I received the COI notice (since I was had logged out of my account). I am in the process of deleting/undoing everything I added today. Again, my sincerest apologies, I stopped as soon as I read your messages. Cf2022 (talk)

Thank you so much for the information. From now on I will only add contributions through the request edit template. If you need help deleting any of the additions I've made until now, I'm happy to delete everything and then resubmit through the request edit template. I don't want to cause any hassle by having others go in and have to look over what I did. Please let me know how best to resolve this. Cf2022 (talk) 06:45, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you remember if you've made these kind of edits under any other accounts? I'm not asking to get you into trouble - the primary reason why we block editors is to stop them from disrupting the project and you've already promised to stop so blocking you wouldn't do any good - but to see if there is any other clean up that needs to be done.
 * If you are employed by the university and editing Wikipedia is part of your job responsibilities, you also need to read through our policy on paid editing; it's stronger and more serious than our conflict-of-interest policy with a non-negotiable requirement that you disclose your relationship with your employer. ElKevbo (talk) 06:56, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

This is my first account. I've never made any other edits. Wikipedia is such a great tool, and I wouldn't want to do anything that invalidates the work editors like you are doing to make sure this remains a useful resource for everyone. I appreciate that you let me know about the issue. I just really didn't know that I was in violation. I thought disclosure was the only requirement. I will definitely read the policies you have sent me. And, from now on, I will only request edits (never edit anything directly myself) related to my institution. Please let me know if you need help deleting anything I did, or if there is anything else I can do. Cf2022 (talk)

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. Possibly (talk) 02:36, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Proper template for references on talk pages
Thanks for your contributions, and use of the request edit to help ensure that proposed edits are reviewed to make sure they are neutral. One tiny nit, when you add a reference to a talk page, it will automatically appear at the bottom of the page. While this makes sense in an article, it doesn't make sense on a talk page. It may not look like a problem when you initially add the reference because it appears immediately below your post, but if others had additional sections to the talk page, the reference will appear at the bottom of the page, not at the bottom of the section.

The good news is there is a simple solution. We have a template reflist-talk which is designed for this purpose. You may note I've used this in some recent edits of yours. Could you make sure to use it in future edits?-- S Philbrick (Talk)  17:31, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * thanks User:Sphilbrick, I happened to see your comment. Very useful. I've used it already on a few talk pages today! Wasn't aware of this option. EMsmile (talk) 13:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Glad I could help. Don't be surprised if you start noticing stray references hanging out of the bottom of talk pages. That template will help place them where they belong. S Philbrick  (Talk)  18:23, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Kathryn Zeiler
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 08:04, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Ahmed Ghappour
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coi
This is about your coi with Boston University, as came to attention for Draft:Pina Lahev, a article to which you contributed. In declining that article as not yet notable, I wrote:

I note a coi was declared, but it was a paid coi, and it did not make ful disclosure according to our rules. There were three separate individuals involved in writing this, all from her university. This could mean 3 separate employees of the university, or an outside agency the University has hired, or several outside agencies. This needs to specified. .

The usual advice for someone who is not yet notable, is to try again, once her second book is published, and had gotten  substantial reviews in third-party published independent reliable sources, not press releases, blurbs, blogs,  Amazon, or Goodreads.

For coi editors, the advice is different:   Boston University should stop trying to publicize their faculty authors by writing articles about them in WP. It is almost impossible for PR people at a university or publisher to write a satisfactory article. If she is really notable, someone without coi will write an article about her.

I also point out to the coi editors, that their participation in this work lends a degree of doubt about all articles on Boston University faculty, and I advise them to make sure there are coi statements added for all other articles that may have been affected. I --and other reviewers--are very likely to check them. I see they have in fact declared some other articles, and I shall now check them to see that they do not resort to the hyperbola used here, in claiming authorship of books for which the person was not the author, and including prizes from their own institution.

Sometimes I will try to fix such articles, as I started fixing that one. But if there's a sustained PR campaign, I would be much more inclined to recommend deletion of the articles, for I do not see why I or any volunteer should devote our efforts to material that someone else is being paid to write.

''And, on your user page, you must put a list of every coi article to which you have contributed. I see that despite previous warnings you have not yet done so. Do it immediately. ''

I shall add a formal warning.  DGG ( talk ) 21:22, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

You may also wish to consider the experience of a friend of mine here, who a number of years ago decided to assign to his class the writing of bios for the other faculty in his department. When some of the bios were chanllenged and removed with a public disscussion that concluded with not notable, his colleagues, understandably enough, got quite angry. I'm a librarian myself, and I would never attempt such a project. Please at least consider the consequences of a similar occurrence.  DGG ( talk ) 22:52, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello DGG, I don't think I've ever been told to list of drafts to which I've contributed to. I'm happy to do this, but would you be able to show me how to add such a list to my user page? I always want to comply with Wikipedia's rules, and I sincerely apologize if there are any coi disclosure issues. I was previously told that I would be able to continue editing as long as all edits were made as requests. However, if this is no longer the case so that even requesting edits would be an issue, I definitely understand and will cease to even do that. Cf2022 (talk) 20:10, 10 August 2021 (UTC)Cf2022

August 2021
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing.  DGG ( talk ) 22:53, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kathryn Zeiler has been accepted
 Kathryn Zeiler, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. This is a great rating for a new article, and places it among the top of accepted submissions   You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. ''However, you must continue submitting work to Articles for creation in those cases where you have a conflcit of interest. This includes all faculty at your law school''.

''I have made a number of changes in the article, and I am makingsome more. Academic bios show the positions in chronological order, with exact years, not just the current position and the previous one--that's one of the standard signs of promotionalism. We do not include membership ion in-university commitees, or awardsfrom their own university. A full list of papers is rarely appropriate--especially here, where all the important ones are discussed in the text. Avoid adjectives of praisee--the best way of showing "influential" is to give the numberof citations, and I have added these''

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Kathryn_Zeiler help desk] . Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider.

Thanks again, and happy editing!  DGG ( talk ) 10:49, 16 February 2022 (UTC)  DGG ( talk ) 11:12, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

articles in sandboxes
Unless you have any objections, I plan to edit some of the material you have in usweer sandboxes, and move it to mainspace. I understand fully why you have not moved it, considering previous comments about coi, but some of these people are very highly notable and should have articles. It was never my intent ion to prevent apppropriate articles about them.  DGG ( talk ) 09:48, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Ahmed Ghappour


Hello, Cf2022. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Ahmed Ghappour".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 00:02, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Maureen O'Rourke
She is notable, and what the draft needs is removal of advtives are esperessions of praise, ans a much shorter discussion of the context of her work. When ready, submit.  DGG ( talk ) 08:11, 29 April 2022 (UTC)