User talk:Chasnor15

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March 2008
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March 3, 2008
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March 7, 2008
Hi. I noticed that you made a number of changes to the Stonyhurst Saint Mary's Hall page, most of which had to be undone. You placed square brackets around several terms which do not have their own pages on Wikipedia (since the page in question was explaining some of the terms, eg "Hodder House", this was rather obvious). I have also noticed that in your other contributions that you have been replacing good English for bad, good grammar for bad and replacing words with others which do not suit the context or meaning. Could I suggest that you do not save these changes in future if they are not intended seriously, and may I also suggest, with friendly intention, that if English is not your first language, perhaps you should not be as quick to assume a sentence is wrongly phrased or constructed. Thank you. Imaginativename (talk) 00:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I speak English, and I have to do a lot of correcting to stuff that isn't. Please don't make a general complaint, but raise a specific issue of my use of English. Vague abuse is not helpful. Chasnor15 (talk) 09:31, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello. That wasn't vague 'abuse'. Please remain civil. Littleteddy (roar!) 09:33, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

If it wasn't vague and unfocussed abuse, are you complaining of the word 'vague' or 'abuse'. All I've pointed out that you have claimed that possibly English is not my first language, a conclusion you have come to by producing no evidence. If you have difficulties with the many repairs I have to make to Wikipedia, you have three options: (i) revert them, (ii) put your own version there, (iii) contact me, about the particular issue(s), and we'll discuss the changes you want to make. I am being civil and logical.

Generally, if I  and there isn't a subject, the  ed subject needs an entry in Wikipedia. How else does the 'pedia expand. It's not a clsoed source of human knowledge, complete of itself! Chasnor15 (talk) 09:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I've noticed that you've been adding your signature to some of your article contributions. This is a simple mistake to make and is easy to correct. For future reference, the need to associate edits with users is taken care of by an article's edit history. Therefore, you should use your signature only when contributing to talk pages, the Village Pump, or other such discussion pages. For a better understanding of what distinguishes articles from these type of pages, please see What is an article?. Again, thanks for contributing, and enjoy your Wikipedia experience! Littleteddy (roar!) 09:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * We are not claiming English is not your first language. We are just saying that if it is, please don't assume XYZ. Littleteddy (roar!) 09:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I consider this correspondence closed Chasnor15 (talk) 09:52, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

You might want to see my comments at User talk:Littleteddy. Matchups (talk) 13:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Chasnor15, I apologise if there was any miscommunication (is that a word :) ), I was merely clarifying what I thought Imaginativename was trying to say. I hope this matter has been rectified. Littleteddy (roar!) 13:43, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually Chasnor, I agree with you when you were talking about redlinks (adding  when no article exists). In my opinion, Imaginativename was incorrect there.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Littleteddy (talk • contribs) 13:44, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I think you have taken my remarks out of context. I apologise if I caused offence - that was not my intention, hence why I said "may I also suggest, with friendly intention". I did not say that you do not speak English, just made a suggestion *IF* it is not your natural tongue - an inference your edits left open. My point about your bracketing is that you put them needlessly around numerous words. For instance you bracketed "Hodder Place" in the article which is explaining what Hodder Place is - it would not be sensible to create a separate page for Hodder Place when the article is already about it. You also bracketed other words without directing them to the correct place, like "Georgian" so that it did not direct to the description of Georgian architecture - the article was not referring to the place Georgia. Linguistic changes include changing finite verbs for participles leaving sentences incomplete; you also changed, in one article, "gunners" to "guns" so that the sentence in question made no sense as it referred to hunters and not their weapons. Please do not take this as an attack. It is just infuriating for those who have to undo errors. Imaginativename (talk) 18:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

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Back garden
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AfD nomination of Back garden
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Recommendation
The EDITOR who is nameless, (not very hepful that) has not read my defence of back garden. If back garden goes, I shall recommend shed for deletion. Most sheds are in back gardens btw. Chasnor15 (talk) 21:12, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * That editor seems to be User:CultureDrone - I suppose the PROD and AFD notifications were semi-automated - a poor protocol for good communication. But he just proposes deletion and it is open to all to comment.  When you make your comment, please restrain yourself as rants and displays of temper, however justified, are usually counter-productive. Colonel Warden (talk) 22:27, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Not ranting, just trenchant in defence of my work
As I say. I thought it all looked a bit automatic. I wish people would think before they rely on bots. Chasnor15 (talk) 22:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Proposing that an article be deleted is complex (try it) and so some editors use tools which automate some of the edits required. And maybe there are bots out there which fill in the gaps, such as notifying the authors of articles.  I'm not sure of all the facts of the matter but the key principle here is to assume good faith since anger is disruptive and unhelpful.  Colonel Warden (talk) 22:50, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

No anger shown
Anger has not be shown by me, simply a lack of weasel words. Again EDITORS who use bots should make sure they do not make wild and false accusations, since it should be a principle of good faith that an unwarranted accusation is not made, automatically or otherwise, without applying consideration. Chasnor15 (talk) 05:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Good. Note that the discussion seems to be going well. Do you know how to find it and contribute? Colonel Warden (talk) 14:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I went to your page which produced two threads and one conatined the Princess Louise, which I knew well, but it's a little too far for me to be a regular now. I noted VKC, perhaps it was that interest which prompted your comments on BG. Chasnor15 (talk) 14:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

No bots used
Actually, I don't use bots or tools for AfD - I use the three-step Wikipedia method outlined here : Articles for deletion. I don't know why you've had trouble finding my user name as its on all the edits I've done, and also on the AfD nomination for your back garden article. As with all Wikipedia articles, remember that all editors have different opinions on whether an article should be included or not - even after reading the WP guidelines. In this instance, my opinion differed from yours on the article. If the consensus reached on AfD says keep it (which it looks like it will), then I have no problem with that - it's not a personal attack, merely my view on one of x million articles. As always, anyone is free to disagree with any changes I make, and I hope you adopt the same principle. CultureDrone (talk) 22:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, I did read your defense of your article - and exactly what 'wild and false accusations' (see your comment above) did I make ? CultureDrone (talk) 23:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Article deletions
I've seen your comments on the deletion of back garden. I wanted to point you to the wikipedia policy WP:AGF, which some have mentioned to you already. Specifically; don't take it as a personal insult if someone nominates an article you created for deletion. Wikipedia has stringent guidelines for inclusion, and editors don't all agree on what fits where- that's why there's a discussion. It's pretty routine for articles to get nominated. Just take it as a reason to clean the article up even more. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 16:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I was just wanting to give you a heads up; if you're too harsh on the deletion debates you might get in trouble for incivility (see WP:CIVIL). BTW I'm less than forty years old and none of my older relatives are into computer science, so I doubt I'm related to your FORTRAN instructor (it's an odd coincidence, as I'm into computers myself). JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 03:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Extreme beer has been redirected
An article to which you seem to have contributed, Extreme beer, was tagged for proposed deletion ("prodded") a few days ago by an author who thought the term was a neologism. I have since redirected it to beer as a logical place in which the term can be described. Sourcing should be no problem as long as blogs and forums are not used. The term seems to have gained traction, but there is not yet enough for a standalone article. B.Wind (talk) 17:24, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of King's Cross Conservation Advisory Committee


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 * Unsourced. Fails WP:ORG. Fails WP:GNG. Tagged for sources and notability since March 2008.

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Proposed deletion of South East Regional Industrial Archaeology Conference


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