User talk:Coachtripfan

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September 2021
Your recent editing history at I Still Have Faith in You shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Hello, Coachtripfan, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia, such as. Our policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow this, and users who misuse multiple accounts may be blocked from editing. If you operate multiple accounts directly or with the help of another person, please disclose these connections. Thank you.  Ss  112   16:28, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

I do not have multiple accounts.

I have used the Talk section but you are unwilling to compromise.

The compromise would be to make it clear the difference between the Hot Singles and Official Singles Chart. You are unwilling to do this Coachtripfan (talk) 21:57, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * There doesn't need to be a "compromise". You still don't understand how charts or charts sections work, and are unwilling to let this go. I also didn't say you had multiple registered accounts; I said you used an IP address to make an edit about 10 hours ago because this IP address made much the same edit as you are making. To any other editor informed of the situation, that looks exactly like you editing logged out.  Ss  112   00:13, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Stop removing valid charts
Nobody is giving a "false impression of singles success in NZ". It's apparently only you who can't tell the difference between the NZ Top 40 Singles Chart and the NZ Hot Singles Chart. It's clearly marked as such. Also, "not an official chart"? The NZ Hot Singles Chart is published by the official chart publisher of New Zealand, Recorded Music NZ. Charts do not have to be sales charts to be put in charts sections—for example, and I don't know where you got this idea. If a song did not appear on the main singles chart of a country, it's perfectly valid to include a streaming chart in a charts section, and that's not sales either. You have no actual basis for removing this, so stop. If you continue to edit war by removing it, you will be reported to an administrator, so I suggest you drop it. Thanks.  Ss  112   11:23, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Fine. Include that chart. But make it clear in a footnote this is not the official/main NZ chart.

People reading this may not be that knowledgeable about charts in various countries. Don't mislead! Coachtripfan (talk) 08:05, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * You're asking for a footnote to explain the chart because of your confusion. The name of the chart is "NZ Hot Singles Chart". We can't call it something different than what it is. The top 40 is rendered in charts sections as "New Zealand (Recorded Music NZ)", whereas the Hot Singles chart is rendered as "New Zealand Hot Singles (RMNZ)". That is the difference—there's no "misleading" going on, and you have said multiple times now that I have intended to mislead by including it, which is ridiculous. I don't care that the song didn't chart in the top 40; users add the NZ Hot Singles Chart where a song did not enter the top 40 all the time on Wikipedia.


 * Anyway: Why should readers be assuming that every country listed is the main singles chart of that country? They shouldn't. That's their problem for assuming. This is also why we have links to articles that explain the difference between a country's charts, just like Recorded Music NZ now explains the Hot Singles chart is different from the main top 40. No other user has ever needed or asked for a footnote to explain the NZ Hot Singles Chart is not the main chart of New Zealand, so why should we have one here? Because you want one? Users can click through to the website nztop40.co.nz or the RMNZ page here on Wikipedia and find out in two seconds it's not the main chart of New Zealand. Problem solved.  Ss  112   08:33, 15 September 2021 (UTC)