User talk:Conifer/Archive 3

Thanks
Thank you for the welcome. I hope to be of use, though since English is not my native language, I'll probably be more active on the Dutch Wikipedia. Vuurcifer (talk) 10:12, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I wish I was bi multi lingual. Oh well, happy editing!  David  1217  What I've done 14:26, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not bilingual, I'm trilingual. I suppose that you could consider bilingual a subset, though. Not sure. Vuurcifer (talk) 14:32, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Amended my comment.  David  1217  What I've done 14:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * *laughs* Very well. Vuurcifer (talk) 14:46, 8 September 2012 (UTC) (Amended to fix small formatting problem. Vuurcifer (talk) 14:46, 8 September 2012 (UTC))

Page Curation update
Hey all :). We've just deployed another set of features for Page Curation. They include flyouts from the icons in Special:NewPagesFeed, showing who reviewed an article and when, a listing of this in the "info" flyout, and a general re-jigging of the info flyout - we've also fixed the weird bug with page_titles_having_underscores_instead_of_spaces in messages sent to talkpages, and introduced CSD logging! As always, these features will need some work - but any feedback would be most welcome. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 18:19, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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Help Project
Hey. I missed replying earlier, and don't want to bump the thread (and prevent archiving even longer), so, to answer your questions at WP:VPR

Re: Introduction link: Would need a new thread, as everyone above is supporting/opposing something else. Also, page 2&3 of the Intro have barely changed since 2005/06 when they were designed, and should probably be thoroughly checked and improved before being considered for sidebar prominence.

Re: Help Project: See Help Project/Newsletter and the root project page - his fellowship ends this month, so hopefully a lot will be completed in the next 2 weeks. It'll be up to all of us, after that.

HTH. —Quiddity (talk) 16:53, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * It's probably not worth making a new thread. Thanks for the newsletter link. I'm glad to see what The Wub is doing—the help pages needed some help, if you'll excuse the extremely bad pun.  David  1217  What I've done 16:57, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

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You're Invited! Wikipedia Takes Portland 2012

 * Why, thanks for inviting me, Another Believer. I doubt I'll be able to come, } but hopefully you'll get lots of good photos taken! David  1217  What I've done 22:36, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Page Curation newsletter
Hey. This will be, if not our final newsletter, one of the final ones :). After months of churning away at this project, our final version (apart from a few tweaks and bugfixes) is now live. Changes between this and the last release include deletion tag logging, a centralised log, and fixes to things like edit summaries.

Hopefully you like what we've done with the place; suggestions for future work on it, complaints and bugs to the usual address :). We'll be holding a couple of office hours sessions, which I hope you'll all attend. Many thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 11:25, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Eternal Eden
You might want to look at the AFD for Eternal Eden, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Eternal_Eden

According to Amalthea, the IP who requested you to AFD the article might have done so in bad faith. ScienceApe (talk) 14:38, 18 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I didn't realize anything fishy was going on. Guess I should have looked at the user who asked me to nominate the article a little closer... David  1217  What I've done 13:49, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Airport names
More discussion on airport names. I am contacting you, and all past participants in recent discussions on this issue, because there is now a new RFC.

WP:HYPHEN says that proper names get hyphens, like Jones-Smith (or, as the example says "John Lennard-Jones". Are airport names any different? If I take a bicycle trip from Paris to Orly and write an article about it, or someone else does, it would correctly be called Paris–Orly trip with an en dash and trip not capitalized. But if I create a bicycle and call it the Paris-Orly Flyer that becomes a proper name and is capitalized. Is not the same true for airport names? Please see the discussions at WP:MOS, Talk:Seattle–Tacoma International Airport and the recently opened RfC at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports. Apteva (talk) 21:14, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * That's misleading, Apteva. WP:HYPHEN says this:
 * "'Hyphenation also occurs in bird names such as Great Black-backed Gull, and in proper names such as Great Black-backed Gull and Wilkes-Barre.'"
 * Some proper names "get hyphens", but that does not mean no proper name gets an en dash. "Are airport names any different?" Any different from what, exactly? From the default naming assumption that is mentioned at WP:DASH? That is the question facing the RFC to which you refer. An especially ill-posed one, in my opinion, with poor structure and unsupported preliminary assumptions.
 * PLEASE NOTE: discussions do not occur at places like WP:XXX . That is not a talkpage. Try this instead: WT:MOS. I see you making that mistake a lot.
 * By the way, are you canvassing for that RFC? See WP:CANVAS.
 * N oetica Tea? 23:01, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * You know what, screw this. From now on, I'm not going to get involved the the hyphen/dash debate. Nothing good will ever come of it. I asked an honest question on what to do, and a huge argument has flared up. David  1217  What I've done 23:15, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hopefully the issue will find a reasonable resolution. Right now I am compiling a list of out of the 9,000 airports around the world, how many of them have hyphens and how many should have hypens. I am about 1/7th of the way through the list. Apteva (talk) 03:36, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

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Orphaned non-free image File:CoreBrand logo.jpg
 Thanks for uploading File:CoreBrand logo.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. — ξ xplicit  00:25, 29 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah okay, I didn't see that CoreBrand had been deleted as an expired PROD. Thanks for cleaning up! David  1217  What I've done 01:20, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Mr Sparks
Hey please Don't delete this article, Mr Sparks is a well known Rapper by the way its his manager and he knows Adam Deacon
 * To avoid having the article deleted, you'll need to provide reliable sources (like books, magazines, or newspapers) to establish notability. David  1217  What I've done 23:29, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

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You're Invited to Wikipedia Loves Libraries 2012 (Portland, Oregon)!

 * I'd love to come, but I'm afraid I won't be able to (I'll be busy). Nice job setting this up, Another Believer! David  1217  What I've done 22:21, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix
David, I appreciate your fix to the John P. Bennett article. I'm embarrassed that I made that mistake. Thank you. SchreiberBike (talk) 05:11, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, no problem! You disambiguate so many pages, it's okay if you make a mistake once in a while. { David  1217  What I've done 15:11, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

TUSC token 4ffdf679e1c5283ae496aebb5348b22e
I am now proud owner of a TUSC account! — Preceding unsigned comment added by David1217 (talk • contribs) 16:02, 7 October 2012‎ (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback!
Just saw your feedback in response to this question, and I had no idea that WP:FFU even existed! It helped me answer another user's question, so thanks very much for your help! I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 23:07, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * There are so many boards on Wikipedia, I'm still finding new ones after ten months here. David  1217  What I've done 23:14, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

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EditorReviewArchiver: Automatic processing of your editor review
This is an automated message. Your editor review is scheduled to be closed on 16 October 2012 because it will have been open for more than 30 days and inactive for more than 7 days. You can keep it open longer by posting a comment to the review page requesting more input. Adding  to the review page will prevent further automated actions. AnomieBOT ⚡ 14:49, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello !
English Wikipedia Use For Turkish Newspapers..--Aguzer (talk) 13:35, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

work work work...--Aguzer (talk) 11:53, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

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Beer Die Wiki Page Question
Why did you remove the example beer die image from its Wiki page? That table belongs to us and it means a lot to us and it was great to come on here and see our work!

Steve.psk (talk) 03:17, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm guessing you're referring to, where I removed File:Example.jpg from the beer die article. As you can see on the image's description page, "None of these files should be used in articles." I'm not sure what table you're talking about, but it's possible someone else removed it. David  1217  What I've done 03:21, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Wow, sorry! If I had known how to use Wikipedia better I wouldn't have wrongly accused you!  I'm very sorry about that.  I did a CTRL+f to try to search for "image" and that was the only edit I found.  I shall investigate the matter further: thank you!  Also you can delete this whole section on your Talk page as it's obviously not necessary or important.  Take care!
 * Steve.psk (talk) 21:32, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem. Since you're new to Wikipedia, the tutorial is a great page to check out. Happy editing! David  1217  What I've done 23:25, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

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Page Curation newsletter - closing up!
Hey all :).

We're (very shortly) closing down this development cycle for Page Curation. It's genuinely been a pleasure to talk with you all and build software that is so close to my own heart, and also so effective. The current backlog is 9 days, and I've never seen it that low before.

However! Closing up shop does not mean not making any improvements. First-off, this is your last chance to give us a poke about unresolved bugs or report new ones on the talkpage. If something's going wrong, we want to know about it :). Second, we'll hopefully be taking another pass over the software next year. If you've got ideas for features Page Curation doesn't currently have, stick them here.

Again, it's been an honour. Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:23, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * It's been great working with you, Okeyes. See you around. David  1217  What I've done 20:57, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

RFPP archive bot
FYI - I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Requests for page protection that you might be interested in contributing to. Thanks. ‑Scottywong | talk _ 23:13, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for notifying me, Scottywong. David  1217  What I've done 20:57, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Review rollbacks
Ok, David, so what was so wrong with my reviews that you felt the need to roll them back? Just curious. Berek (talk) 23:13, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry about not getting back to you—I've been a bit busy, as you can see above. The reason I unreviewed those pages is that I thought they had some issues, and I wanted more eyes on them. I may have been wrong, in retrospect. David  1217  What I've done 20:50, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

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Future of WikiProject Amusement Parks
Hi David1217. I am contacting you because you are listed as one of members of WikiProject Amusement Parks or one of its task forces. I have just started a discussion on the project's talk page regarding the future of the project. I have made four proposals and I would appreciate your comments on them. Thank you Themeparkgc   Talk  23:16, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for notifying me, Themeparkgc. David  1217  What I've done 20:57, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

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Pending changes RfC reopened
Hi. You had previously commented on the pending changes RfC that was placed on hold. Your comments have been transplanted to PC2012/RfC_3 and additional questions have been added. You may want to review your comments since some of the wording of the questions has changed slightly, and consider the new questions. Gigs (talk) 00:18, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, Gigs. David  1217  What I've done 01:33, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

This is not a newsletter
This is just a tribute.

Anyway. You're getting this note because you've participated in discussion and/or asked for updates to either the Article Feedback Tool or Page Curation. This isn't about either of those things, I'm afraid ;p. We've recently started working on yet another project: Echo, a notifications system to augment the watchlist. There's not much information at the moment, because we're still working out the scope and the concepts, but if you're interested in further updates you can sign up here.

In addition, we'll be holding an office hours session at 21:00 UTC on Wednesday, 14 November in #wikimedia-office - hope to see you all there :). I appreciate it's an annoying time for non-Europeans: if you're interested in chatting about the project but can't make it, give me a shout and I can set up another session if there's enough interest in one particular timezone or a skype call if there isn't. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 10:53, 10 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks Okeyes. I've signed up. David  1217  What I've done 22:12, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

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AFT5 newsletter
Hey all :). A couple of quick updates (one small, one large)

First, we're continuing to work on some ways to increase the quality of feedback and make it easier to eliminate and deal with non-useful feedback: hopefully I'll have more news for you on this soon :).

Second, we're looking at ways to increase the actual number of users patrolling and take off some of the workload from you lot. Part of this is increasing the prominence of the feedback page, which we're going to try to do with a link at the top of each article to the relevant page. This should be deployed on Tuesday (touch wood!) and we'll be closely monitoring what happens. Let me know if you have any questions or issues :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 14:33, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Okeyes. David  1217  What I've done 20:03, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
I had to strike my name at Merchandise giveaways/Nominations due to a conflict of interest, but I really wanted to say thank you for both bringing the program to my attention, and of course the trust you put in nominating me. Being the founder of WP:WikiProject Editor Retention, it is important that I promote this program and insure as many editors are aware of it as possible, which means I need to not be up for free goodies, as that would look bad. But the nomination and support from others is better than a t-shirt and I already feel rewarded thanks to your kindness. :) Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 16:29, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Go ahead, Dennis. David  1217  What I've done 20:02, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

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please do not delete my page
I am adding references this afternoon, please do not jump the gun thank you! (also I have references from reputable sources, including PR Web that have been listed under the reference section) — Preceding unsigned comment added by KarlyJune (talk • contribs) 16:54, 21 November 2012‎ (UTC)
 * If you are talking about Derek Potts—I haven't ever edited that article. You should talk to WikiDan61, the editor who proposed it for deletion. David  1217  What I've done 18:30, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

AFT5 office hours
Hey all :). Just a quick note to say we'll be holding office hours in #wikimedia-office at 21:30 UTC this Thursday (the 29th) to show everyone the additional tools we're thinking of working on. All attendence and feedback is appreciated :). Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 14:05, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Won't make it, unfortunately. David  1217  What I've done 22:55, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

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User dispute
I am sorry for reporting this in the wrong area; I am not very used to Wikipedia. Out of curiosity, what is the porper thing to do in this situation? THe user is still being very uncivil and rude to me. 134340Goat (talk) 06:27, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You should keep discussing the issue with them on their talk page; if they still are uncivil (make sure to read Civility), then report them to Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. David  1217  What I've done 06:40, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I am still attempting to resolve this and in the mean time, I have submitted a request for comment. 134340Goat (talk) 07:20, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've on it David :). Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:23, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Callanecc. David  1217  What I've done 22:13, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

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Help me out here!
Hi, David! Thank you for welcoming me on my talk page some months ago!

I just need a little help. I'm Portuguese and I wanna help out with PT-EN and EN-PT translations. How do you think I sould start? Thanks! -- Sim(ã)o(n)  * Wanna talk? See my  efforts?  21:46, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You can look through Pages needing translation into English and see if there are any pages needing to be translated from Portuguese. Happy editing! David  1217  What I've done 03:35, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

OK. Thanks! -- Sim(ã)o(n)  * Wanna talk? See my  efforts?  19:09, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

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Chinawoman blp-prod
Hi David1217, I removed the deletion tag you put on the article Chinawoman because I don't think it qualifies for BLP-prod. The policy (see WP:BLP-PROD) only applies to articles which contain no sources in any form; this article had a link to the author's website in the infobox. Hope I haven't made a mistake :) —Noiratsi (talk) 08:45, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That's fine. As a side note, it appears the BLP PROD template is inconsistent with the BLP PROD guideline page. David  1217  What I've done 03:40, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I think there's a discrepancy bewteen what qualifies for adding a bpl-prod tag and what qualifies for removing one once it's been legitimately added—to add it, there have to be no sources at all, whereas to remove if there have to be reliable sources (i.e. not just any source will do). Does that explain the inconsistency or is there something else? Obviously going by that guideline you could argue I shouldn't have removed it; but I thought it was soon enough after the tagging to be okay. In other news, now I'm trying to figure out another appropriate reason to get the article deleted ^^. Notability, probably. --Noiratsi (talk) 06:12, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * All right, I suppose that makes sense. David  1217  What I've done 23:37, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

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Perspolis FC page
Hey there, Sorry for my late reply, I just saw your messages. About the Perspolis FC, you mentioned that this club is the most successful Iranian club which is not true, but this club is one of the most successful clubs indeed. This club never won an Asian Champions League (never been in final), but you mentioned that they won it on 1990-91 that at that time another Iranian club called Esteghlal won it. Check this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFC_Champions_League Even the link you mentioned there (Perspolic website) didn't say that they won it!!! If you need more sources or help for translation please let me know because you cannot change the history. Cheers, Armin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arminzadi (talk • contribs) 10:35, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I only reverted your removal of content on Persepolis F.C. because you didn't provide an edit summary explaining your changes. Feel free to make the changes again, as long as they are supported by reliable sources—and add an edit summary too. David  1217  What I've done 00:54, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Perspolis FC page
Hey there again, I'm trying to work on that whenever I free free time, but in the meantime I removed the last sentence of the first part "Persepolis has also won an Asian Cup Winners' Cup.[10]" because it's not true! even if you check the link you referred to it doesn't mention anything about Asian Cup! I don't know who helped you for translation, but check with who ever knows Farsi and see that I'm right. here some sources to see that Perspolis FC never won an Asian Cup, not even be in the final: 1- http://www.worldfootball.net/sieger/afc-champions-league/ 2- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Asian_Club_Championship_and_AFC_Champions_League_winning_managers 3- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFC_Champions_League Cheers, Armin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arminzadi (talk • contribs) 16:49, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Please see my reply in the above section. David  1217  What I've done 05:05, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia edit-thon: Saturday, February 9, 2013
Hope to see you there! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:38, 15 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I'd love to come, but I'm busy. David  1217  What I've done 22:41, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hopefully another time, then. Thanks for the heads up re: Pok Pok. I will move your stub to the main space and add it to the list of articles to expand. I may take on the challenge myself! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Another Believer! David  1217  What I've done 00:45, 18 January 2013 (UTC)