User talk:Dank/Archive 67

Eliza Acton
Hi Dan, I've swapped the image for the TFA for a different book, as the first one (the main one in the IB) is possibly the most boring image we have on WP! This is particularly a problem when it's at the small TFA size we have. The new image we have is for a different book, but we don't refer to it in the blurb. Is this a problem? If you're too short on words to add the new book, feel free to swap the image back to the previous one. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 17:53, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gavin, I'll leave it up to David Levy. - Dank (push to talk) 18:16, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Brie Larson on main page
Hey, so the main display image of Ms Larson’s blurb on the main page was changed without prior discussion or comment by an uninvolved editor. Could you please restore the version that’s currently being used in the article info box ? Thanks. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 04:06, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Pinging David Levy. - Dank (push to talk) 04:19, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Today's featured article/April 4, 2019
Hi, Dan. I hadn't realized that you previously edited the word order. (My apologies for unknowingly reverting without explanation.)

The problem with "professional Canadian ice hockey goaltender" is that "professional" is intended to modify only "ice hockey player". (He isn't a professional Canadian or a player of a sport called "Canadian ice hockey", nor does most of his professional play occur in Canada.) This differs from instances in which the person's nationality is part of the sport's name (e.g., "professional Canadian football player", which refers to a professional player of Canadian football).

The current wording seems fine to me, but I'm curious as to what issue exists with "Canadian professional ice hockey goaltender" and whether the article's lead should be edited as well. I believe that's a standard construct for such biographies at Wikipedia, as documented at MOS:OPENPARABIO and in the "American professional player of carom billiards" example cited therein, but I assume that valid exceptions arise. —David Levy 00:32, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your edit. The question has come up at ERRORS before. Former Australian Olympic swimmer, or Australian former Olympic swimmer? First Australian gold medalist, or Australian first gold medalist? Little Red Riding Hood, or Red Little Riding Hood? I mean, the whole outfit is red, so how can Red Little Riding Hood be wrong? (A fun link for the answer to that one is here.) There are competing considerations, the rules are shifting over time, and for some of these questions, no matter what order you use, it will sound wrong to some readers. Bottom line: I don't want any part of this fight. "Canadian" can almost always be reworded as "from Canada", and we don't even need "from Canada" if there's some other sentence that does a better job of saying that ... there was in this case, so I moved that sentence up. - Dank (push to talk) 01:18, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for this background. I'm a firm believer in sidestepping such issues through neutral rewording/reorganization (particularly on the main page, where material derived from numerous articles coexists at any given time), so the current version seems like a good solution.  —David Levy 01:50, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm not trying to build a case against you or cause any trouble. I'm just trying to help and I guess I got too defensive when I thought you were making fun of me. I'm sorry. 73.81.117.185 (talk) 04:39, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, I'll explain a bit more there. - Dank (push to talk) 04:42, 4 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Having just read the WP:ERRORS thread, I suggest the following: "Roberto Luongo (born April 4, 1979) is a professional ice hockey goaltender from Canada. Employing the butterfly style, he plays for the Florida Panthers of the National Hockey League and previously played for the NHL's New York Islanders and Vancouver Canucks. Luongo is a two-time NHL Second All-Star (2004 and 2007) and a winner of the William M. Jennings Trophy for backstopping his team to the lowest goals against average in the league (2011). He has been a finalist for the Vezina Trophy as the league's best goaltender (2004, 2007 and 2011), the Lester B. Pearson Award as the top player voted by his peers (2004 and 2007) and the Hart Memorial Trophy as the league's most valuable player (2007). Luongo is second all-time in games played as an NHL goaltender, and is third all-time in wins. He was named to the 2014 Canadian Olympic Hockey Team, where he won his second Olympic gold medal in a largely backup role to Carey Price."


 * In addition to appending "from Canada" and restoring the Olympic information's original placement, this eliminates "of goaltending" (superfluous because "butterfly style" now appears almost immediately after the first of three instances of "goaltender") and consolidates the three NHL teams into one sentence. Overall, the character count (including spaces) is reduced by 13.  —David Levy 05:53, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've suggested that at ERRORS. And you're right that I wasn't overruling you. - Dank (push to talk) 11:49, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Advice
When you have time, could you please advise me with regard to this question about hiding edits on a user page? Just don't want to take a mis-step with the bit. Thanks. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 16:23, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi AC, how's it going? I have no idea. - Dank (push to talk) 17:17, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * (and a non-Admin one too). I've had my user page wiped a couple of times (see here) with no problems at all. It's different for a talk page, but a user page is fine to delete if a user requests it, AFAIK. - SchroCat (talk) 17:38, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm going to proceed based on that. I thought it was probably OK, but I don't use the tools super often, and I know one or two users who seem to be waiting for me to make a mistake. Just want to do my due diligence. Thanks. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 18:42, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * You've done the right thing in asking others, and it is something that has been done before (on nothing more than a user request too). Cheers and glad to have been of help. - SchroCat (talk) 18:56, 24 April 2019 (UTC)