User talk:DaveHM

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Greece-related articles
This is a note of appreciation for your participation in the various Greece-related articles. Your comments strike me as clear, succinct and show a concern with improving the articles, which is precisely the kind of attention the articles need. So, thank you. Jkelly 19:14, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Fighting POV-pushing
I thought that I would direct your attention to two policies that you might not be aware of as a new user. One is Vandalism, which explicitly states that neutral point-of-view violations are not vandalism (changing numbers, on the other hand, is "sneaky" vandalism). The other is the three-revert rule which is taken very seriously. The three-revert rule doesn't apply to vandalism, which is one reason that the distinction about what is vandalism is important. Apologies if you already knew all this. Jkelly 20:31, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

request
Hello DaveHM. Could you take a look at Macedonia (Greece) and the relavant talk page? Thanks! +MATIA &#9742; 17:33, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Greek American
Please be careful not to violate the our WP:3RR rule. Article talk pages are a great place to discuss disputes and find consensus. Thanks, -Willmcw 23:02, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I was reverting the section to the standard used in List of Italian Americans and other well thought out lists in order to avoid the factual dispute tag that went onto List of Irish Americans after teh same user started adding geneoligies on that list, instead of individauls main pageas. As well as some serious problems with the way the US census data on ancestry was represented incorrectly.
 * Ancestry is used by the census bureau based specifially on the question asked. social scientitts dealing with these numbers and ancestry identity issues are very careful to not use terminology that is at variance with the guildelines the census publishes on the quetsions.
 * there is also some European POV pushing there due to additions by by naturally interested Greeks, but entirely not representative of the way Americans, including Americans of Greek ancestry, self nomination (indeed the cenus adopted thi slong ago because people were not interested in ascibing "hyphinated Americans, ad one can see that in the language of the community groups as well). This is to say that "Greek Americanan" commuity refering to institutions and history is proper, but it is not longer the prefered term for current self nomination.
 * Lastly there was a strange recent rash of additons of "family trees" of notable persons in the various lists to show "fractions," by the same user making assertions someone is "100%" this or "1/4" that. this has occured on many other lists by the same editor who I reverted with much controversy on other lists with others. This deosn't not occur on List of Italian Americans or most other lists for obvious reasons. multiple backgrounds belong on a notable person's main page, not the each seperate list. About half of the people on all list have multiple ancestry: two, theree, four, even five and it gets to be minutia whcih is also often incorrect.
 * In short I am using the census decription of its own data, the way people in the US self-nominate and self-ascribe as reflected in the social studies that created the census questions, and not a 19th century Eurpean construct (not anti-European, but these are Americans).

I should not have gone over three after the other persons four reverts but the model that is most commony used on pages that don't break down inot factual dispute tag was the one I was using DaveHM 17:22, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Guidelines for Wikipedia lists of ethnic groups
Please may I draw your attention to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Guidelines_for_Wikipedia_lists_of_ethnic_groups

Your contributions would be very welcome. -- Brownlee 11:51, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

:)
So, You're a western expert on the Balkans, eh?

Any particular conclusion the experience brought upon you? --PaxEquilibrium 20:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)