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City of London School
Hello,

I understand that Darren Burn (28 August 1961 - Oct 1991) was a child actor who was in "The Insomniac" (filmed 1970, released 1971). Yes, he was "an old boy" for the City of London School, but notable? Not really and not notable directly by himself. If you click on the link above for "The Insomniac" you will not even find his name listed.(SORRY, wrong film. Right name, wrong year.) Could you add his name to the Wiki article on the movie "The Insomniac"? You betcha! For example, see this link. You can then add his name on the Wiki article with the link to the web page of where the information came from as a reference.

Then, and only then - because he (DB) is mentioned indirectly in a Wikipedia article - you can add him to the GA article on the City of London School under notable former pupils as "Darren Burn (1961-1991) child actor in The Insomniac."

By doing the work, as I mentioned above, you help make the article on the movie "The Insomniac" better, honor "Darren Burn" twice on Wikipedia, and no one gets upset with you for messing up a "Good Article" (GA rated) on Wikipedia.

A little backwards? Yep. Just remember that Wikipedia is not a collector of trivia and the odds and ends. There is a reason behind the regulations and the way the game is played on Wikipedia. Please see: About for what Wikipedia is all about and what it is not.

Best Wishes,

John R. Carpenter Jrcrin001 (talk) 21:20, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

'''DAVID RAYNER SAYS: What do you mean Darren Burn wasn't in The Insomniac (1970)? He is listed on the IMDb in the cast list. You gave two links to two different films with the same title, the other one being a foreign film made in Singapore. As for Darren, he was once (in the late 1960's and early 1970's), the face of Heinz Baked Beans, being the little boy in the famous ITV commercials seen numerous times in millions of homes, before becoming even more famous as the son of EMI executive Colin Burn, who spent millions (at today's prices) launching his talented ex-choir boy son as the British answer to Jimmy Osmond in 1973, a distastrous and misguided enterprise that eventually ended in Darren's suicide at a young age. I suppose you're too young to remember 1973 and all the fuss over Darren Burn, with the television crews following him everywhere. Darren was a pupil at the City of London School from September, 1972, aged 11, to September, 1977, aged 16. Read and see all about Darren here: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1330630442&ref=ts '''
 * Due to ongoing attempts to re-insert material, the following is added ...
 * Information.svg Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to City of London School, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Jrcrin001 (talk) 15:21, 11 October 2010 (UTC) (unintentional vandalism/test)
 * My efforts to help you seem almost unwanted. And, yes, my mistake on The Insomniac on Wiki, it is the 1990 version. How about writing a new article on the 1971 released version? Or put together an article on Darren Burn or Colin Burn? I would be happy to help out once it is started.

'''DAVID RAYNER SAYS: Thanks all the same, but I'll let someone else do a Wikipedia article on Darren. Wikipedia is far too complicated for me to use in that respect. Too many rules and regulations to adhere to...such as no photos of Darren could be used in such an article unless I owned the copyright, which I don't. And even if I did own the copyright, how could I prove it? It's a minefield.'''


 * How about you writing something up and letting me or another format it for Wikipedia? If you have a public photo (publicity or obit photo) or something similar, we might be able to use that. If you took a photo of him, then we might be able to use that also. The key is documentation of the material. Send it to me at: jrcrin001@cox.net Jrcrin001 (talk) 21:10, 13 October 2010 (UTC)


 * In the early 1970s my focus was on things like the 1972 Munich massacre, the 1973 Yom Kippur War and the end (1973-1975) of the Vietnam War where I knew people who died in each one. Unfortunately, by the end of 1975, Uncle Sam didn't want me anymore because I was damaged goods. Rather a pitty, I was hoping for a career. But the Baader-Meinhof gang helped put a stop to that idea and I still limp when I get tired. Life is funny like that. Cheers. Jrcrin001 (talk) 06:49, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

'''DAVID RAYNER SAYS: I'm very sorry to hear that you were caught up in the terrible Vietnam war. It must have been a truly horrific experience for you to go through, as well as the Baader-Meinhof attack. You are very lucky to have survived the 1970's and still be here to tell the tale over thirty years later. In fact, that, in itself, is an achievement to be proud of.'''


 * The heroes were those who never came home ... I survived my short time in the service, I was one of the lucky ones. Jrcrin001 (talk) 21:10, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010
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