User talk:DestinationFearFan

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Homan/Folor
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:China National Heavy Duty Truck Group § "Homan, previously called Folor". ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I've responded there. DestinationFearFan (talk) 15:44, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

March 2021
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for knowingly (Special:Diff/1012650562) continuing to add unreliably sourced content and/or original research to articles after a block for the same behavior. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:08, 17 March 2021 (UTC) I feel a bit guilty for having removed the original block earlier than needed; I should perhaps have insisted on the month-long pause. On the other hand, I'm afraid that a month doesn't make the necessary difference either. If I correctly understand the situation, the fundamental issue is a basic understanding of what people are writing, combined with a lack of understanding of the reason behind such messages. Special:Diff/1008891449, quickly self-reverted, was a question in response to its own answer and might be a good example of the problem. Getting a message across is admittedly harder via text than in an audiovisual conversation, but: This situation is currently sadly incompatible with continuing to edit the encyclopedia.
 * When you had been blocked the first time, you evaded the block by editing while logged out (Special:Diff/1009702230/1009704033), understanding that you had been blocked, but not why blocks exist at all.
 * When you added Special:Diff/1012506944 to the article China National Heavy Duty Truck Group, you knew you were citing an unreliable source (see block reason), and you repeated my explanation from Special:Diff/1008904423. However, this knowledge did not stop you from adding the information. It only stopped you from providing a citation. You understood why the source is unreliable, but not why Wikipedia uses a concept of "reliability" at all.

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The block only applies to the English Wikipedia and you are welcome (perhaps even encouraged by WP:SO) to edit other Wikimedia projects with more care. See meta:Table of Wikimedia projects for a huge list.

You may not edit the English Wikipedia with any other account or while logged out.

Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:44, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

And that was exactly why I didn't cite the source! And also, that comment you left: it said nothing about not using that source. You never told me that the source was not suitable for Wikipedia. So again, your reason of me citing an unrealible source is not true at all. Look at that article. Did I cite it? Plus, that was your own fault for unblocking me sooner than it was. When I was blocked, I was going through every single source citing and reliability article on Wikipedia, so I would've figured it out eventually.DestinationFearFan (talk) 22:08, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You didn't cite the source because you were aware about its unreliability, yet you decided to use it without attribution. I even addressed this exact source in Special:Diff/1008904423, and if that wasn't enough, in Special:Diff/1008920696. You had been asked not to use unreliable sources for Wikipedia statements multiple times by other users before, such as in Special:Diff/1007770341 and Special:Diff/1006195968. Even now that this behavior has led to a second block, you're complaining about never having been told... what exactly? What kind of information should we have provided before the block? Was there really anything you could have been told to prevent this from happening?
 * Edit conflict regarding Special:Diff/1012714284, if I understand correctly, you as the currently blocked person are complaining about your previous unblock and the current re-block at the same time. I have not had that happen in a block discussion yet and I think it makes no sense. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:29, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Alright, let me explain a little about that source. Before you messaged me on my talk page about not using the source, I went to that website, and typed every single car brand it listed onto my userpage, under "pages to create". I already had used it before anyone had said not to. That's why I didn't cite it, because I understood that it was now unreliable, per your message. DestinationFearFan (talk) 15:28, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Can you please look at my message. I am responding of why I did this. DestinationFearFan (talk) 15:28, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, Special:Diff/1013611523 didn't cause a ping because it didn't add a full new signature to the page. If you would like to make sure that a ping happens, the edit summary is the easiest way to do so. A wikilink to any user page in an edit summary will ping the user.
 * I had seen the original message and chose not to respond for now, as I can't provide helpful advice beyond what was already written. To re-summarize the central point of my arguments, I believe that the block is currently necessary to prevent disruption, and that this need won't quickly disappear. It may take multiple years until you completely see what has happened here, and after these years, you'll be happily welcomed back to the encyclopedia.
 * Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:18, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Zedriv for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Zedriv is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Zedriv until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Sliekid (talk) 12:49, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Is nominating an article I created just because Homan/Folor wasn't reliable necessary? Could you give me more details why exactly it is "non-notable company"? DestinationFearFan (talk) 15:53, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Yulu (marque) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Yulu (marque) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Sliekid (talk) 12:50, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Is nominating an article I created just because Homan/Folor wasn't reliable necessary? Could you give me more details why exactly it is "non-notable company"? DestinationFearFan (talk) 15:54, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Toyota Campmate
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If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. You may request userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Toyota Camp Mate
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If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. You may request userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Queens of Renthia
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 23:03, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Toyota Campmate


Hello, DestinationFearFan. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Toyota Campmate".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 20:59, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Toyota Camp Mate


Hello, DestinationFearFan. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Toyota Camp Mate".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 21:00, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Queens of Renthia


Hello, DestinationFearFan. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Queens of Renthia".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 22:39, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Keyton
Hello, DestinationFearFan, and welcome to Wikipedia. I edit here too, under the username Shushugah, and I thank you for your contributions.

I wanted to let you know, however, that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Keyton, should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Keyton.

You might like to note that such discussions usually run for seven days and are not votes. And, our guide about effectively contributing to such discussions is worth a read. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

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~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:16, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Ruili (marque)
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 12:06, 27 April 2024 (UTC)