User talk:Dhesi

This is my Talk page. Rahul (talk) 08:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

--UTRSBot (talk) 11:44, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

The response that I got by email was:

This is a reply to your Wikipedia unblock appeal from Beeblebrox, a Wikipedia administrator. DO NOT reply to this email - it is coming from an unattended email address. If you wish to send a response, which may be necessary to further your appeal, please click the link below.

Send a response by clicking here

Hello Dhesi,

While I believe that many Wikipedians would agree with your position, as it stands currently policy only allows IP block exemption if the user affected by the proxy block gives some sort of reason why the need to use it. Without a reason being supplied there is no way to evaluate your request.

Beeblebrox English Wikipedia Administrator

I am documenting here the things that are wrong with the above reply and with the entire appeal procedure.

Cannot reply. When I clicked on the "Send a response" link I got this:

The action you requested could not be performed: Your appeal has been marked as closed, which means the administrator reviewing your appeal feels the matter is resolved. If you received a message that indicates you will be unblocked, but you still cannot edit, please try again in a few minutes. If you are still unable to edit, you may wish to post to your User Talk: page. If your appeal was declined, then you may wish to appeal again in several month's time.

Cannot view my own appeal. When I click on the UTRS appeal #25055 link, I eventually get the text "Only administrators can review requests on UTRS." So I cannot view the text of my own appeal. I didn't save it when I entered it -- I did not know that I would be prohibited from viewing it later.

Response to appeal devoid of context. This response did not include the text of my appeal. So it's expected that I will read this response without access to the text of the appeal that I filed, which I am prohibited from viewing.

Response claims no reason was given. The response that I got is incorrect where it states "Without a reason being supplied". I did provide an excellent reason, which is already stated above. It is: "It appears that VPN services (hosted at colocation providers) are blocked even for logged-in users who have had accounts for many years and who have committed no abuse. I don't think this type of block achieves a useful result. IP blocks should be targeted when possible, and apparently such targeting is possible, because I can edit this User page. A logged-in user who has never committed abuse since creating an account 12+ years ago, and has given no indication of doing so in the future, should never be blocked regardless of the IP address in use."

A wide block where a narrow one is possible conflicts with every other policy within Wikipedia. The person(s) who impose such a wide block, in conflict with every other Wikipedia policy, should have to justify not using a narrower block. I have seen no such justification.

Minor bug. When I tried to view the appeal by following the links, I saw two PHP errors: Notice: Undefined variable: is_admin in /usr/utrs/production/public_html/login.php on line 176 Notice: Undefined variable: is_admin in /usr/utrs/production/public_html/login.php on line 287 Rahul (talk) 20:44, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

None of my criticisms have been addressed. Rahul (talk) 21:24, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I thought I did: you haven't edited in years. You do not have the relevant standard for community trust. Simply wanting to use a VPN is not a need. Finally, VPNs and open proxies are all against global Wikimedia policy. We block them on sight, both locally and globally, and we hard block the entire range. If you want to edit here at this time, you will not be able to use a VPN or other open proxy. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:53, 5 May 2019 (UTC)


 * This is not about me and never was about me. Rahul (talk) 22:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The second part of 's reply was about the policy in general, not just you. If you want to change policy, start a discussion at WT:IPBE. regarding the PHP errors @ UTRS mentioned above.  SQL Query me!  23:23, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Blocked from starting a discussion at WT:IPBE. I'm sure I could work around that, but oh the irony. It's a lost cause. Rahul (talk) 00:25, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Non-admin users shouldn't be logged into UTRS. They should use the appeal form on the default screen.  Regardless, I made a patch.--v/r - TP 00:42, 6 May 2019 (UTC)