User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered/Archive 13

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - March 2024
Delivered March 2024 by MediaWiki message delivery.

If you do not wish to receive the newsletter, please add an N to the column against your username on the Project Mainpage.

12:36, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

 * Quite, and thank you for the delicious drink! Cheers DBaK (talk) 00:35, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Editor experience invitation
Hi DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered :) (although maybe the smile isn't as nice to you given the whole disillusioned part). Anyways, I'm looking to interview people here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 11:36, 9 March 2024 (UTC)


 * No, smiles are always nice, and welcome. Thank you very much for the message. I will certainly go and have a look. Please feel free to remind me if I have not responded properly within a week, or something! Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:42, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 March 2024
 * Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:39, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Leeds Wikipedia meetup on Saturday 4th May
Hello there! Interested in having a chat with fellow Wikipedians? There's a meetup in Leeds on Saturday 4th May 2024, at the Tiled Hall Café at Leeds Central Library.

Full details here.

You're receiving this one-off message as you're either a member of WikiProject Yorkshire, you've expressed an interest in a previous Leeds meetup years ago, or (for about 4 of you), we've met :)

I plan to organise more in future, so if you'd like to be notified next time, please say so over on the meetup page.

Please also invite any Wikimedia people you know (or have had wiki dealings with) – spread the word! Hope to see you there.

Jonathan Deamer (talk)

20:35, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * Oh thank you! I am delighted. Cheers ...thanks for the lovely beer! DBaK (talk) 20:39, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

FAC
Spotting your new comma (for which thank you) chez Arthur Bliss reminds me that you are a musician, and so perhaps may be interested to comment on the current featured article candidacy of Jacques Offenbach. (Not closing a parenthesis with a second comma is my besetting prose sin. It is at least sixty years since I was first pulled up for it as a schoolboy.)  Tim riley  talk   10:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Ooh I would love to! Thanks Tim – I will have a look ASAP.
 * Describing me as "a musician" is a bit much but very generous. Usually "a mere trumpet player" will suffice ... sometimes just "a person who owns some trumpets" ...
 * Cheers DBaK (talk) 11:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


 * You needn't keep silent, you know. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:04, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - April 2024
Delivered April 2024 by MediaWiki message delivery.

If you do not wish to receive the newsletter, please add an N to the column against your username on the Project Mainpage.

12:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 2 March 2024
 * Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:01, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

March music
in memory of the birthday of a friend who showed me art such as this, and of Vami, mentioned above --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for this, Gerda. DBaK (talk) 00:35, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * ... and the premiere of Nabucco - I always wanted to go to that theatre where Idomeneo premiered, and they played Mozart! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:07, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Rossini's Petite messe solennelle was premiered on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:18, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes no trumpet, but wonderful music nevertheless! Thank you DBaK (talk) 13:05, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Vacation pics uploaded, at least the first day, - and Aribert Reimann remembered. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:51, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Next day, around Porto da Cruz, on Bach's birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Some days later, a calf in the mist and chocolate cake, and a story of collaboration --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I listen to Bach's St John Passion today, - 300 years after it was first performed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Bliss! DBaK (talk) 20:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I feel understood! - Two days later in time, a different music, - Happy Easter! - You would have liked yester-night's Easter Vigil, with 4 (!) concertos for two trumpets in organ version (between readings, for offertory, for communion and for postlude). The choir was busy on Good Friday, and has to learn all the Bach for 5 May. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * trumpets! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:30, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Fabulous! DBaK (talk) 21:30, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 April 2024
 * Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:48, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Re Abdulla Bin Mohamed Bin Butti Al Hamed COI editor
Greetings! I noticed your comment at AfD. I wanted to offer some insight that might be helpful. The short of it is: it's probably not the subject. The points: 1) In this cultural and social context, it's very unlikely a nobleman is actually editing his own article: he has people for that; 2) In the same context, it's likely any agent might claim to be the represented party; instead of "I represent" or "I work for," it's frustratingly normal to get "This is" or "I" (email me if you want anecdotes). We aren't talking to a prince, but we are talking to the underling or maybe the friend of an annoyed prince. Probably doing his (it's certainly a he) job. Of course, we aren't subject to any wishes, but I find it helps to see this definite COI editor in the most realistic light. Thanks for reading as I split COI hairs. And thanks for your comment at AfD. Cheers! JFHJr (㊟) 19:37, 28 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Sure, understood, and thanks for the insight. Probably I shouldn't have weighed in at all – it's really not my area and I had only stumbled over this by accident because he was posting to some Talk pages that I watch. I was just a bit baffled by what I thought of as rather unusual behaviour ... it's good of you to have put in in context for me. Cheers DBaK (talk) 21:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You weighed in for the right reasons, the discussion is better for it, and I'm glad you did. JFHJr (㊟) 21:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you! DBaK (talk) 21:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

April music
I like to see Appalachian Spring on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed), and I also made it my story. - How do you like the statue (look up places)? - I was undecided so show three versions ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


 * The statue is great! Personally I love the middle image best but I can see good points in them all. DBaK (talk) 21:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Just chiming in...I too think the middle one is good, but my only complaint is that it shows a bit too much human development in the background, although I doubt anyone can tell but me. Viriditas (talk) 21:28, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah, interesting point, thank you. I shall have to look again. DBaK (talk) 21:34, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

The statue is of Hildegard of Bingen, and as it happens, her Physica is on the Main page today, and Marian Anderson as my top story (by NBC, 1939), and below (on my talk) three people with raised arms, - and the place is the cherry blossom in Frauenstein --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:54, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


 * By a crazy coincidence we were at the Alnwick Garden yesterday in order to see their massive cherry orchard in blossom. It's been there for 16 years or something but we have never managed the timing before. Absolute bliss. DBaK (talk) 21:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * love the coincidence! - now plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * My story today is about a piece composed for the Second Sunday after Easter 300 years ago (listen!), and I just returned from a (long) opera about the same age, with soprano Pretty Yende --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Your blossom pics are fantastic! I must show you some of our Alnwick ones. It gave me quite a moment. Cheers DBaK (talk) 09:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, looking forward! - Now images of a flock of sheep that I met by chance on the 300th birthday of cantata Du Hirte Israel, höre, BWV 104 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:36, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh how lovely, thank you ... the Flammkuchen looks wonderful! Also the sheep, safely grazing as one gathers they should. I shall now have to go and listen to the cantata, of course, despite its woeful lack of trumpets. Tsk. Presumably Bach thought they would frighten the sheep, or possibly the accountant.
 * Busy yesterday with Mozart K. 466, Delibes messing around pretending to be in the C16, and, fantastic revelation, Emilie Mayer's Symphony No. 1 ... lovely music, a touch too early (or late) for great trumpet parts but hey ... DBaK (talk) 21:31, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Yesterday's cantata had a trumpet ;) - Well, Bach didn't use trumpets unless for the high holidays or other special impact. We rehearse the oratorio with orchestra fully only on concert Sunday, not to have to pay the trumpets for two days. Did you get a chance to play that? - I am happy that Kathleen Ferrier made it to the Main page again on her birthday, - that was my idea four years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Lovely about Ferrier! No, I have never played BWV 12. It's a very interesting one ... weird key, weird notes ... maybe a Zugtrompete oder so was because you sure as redacted can't play it on a bogstandard natural trumpet! I must look up my learned sources ... or possibly pour a glass of something nice, which would also help. Cheers! DBaK (talk) 20:04, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I learned a lot, also that I have to be more precise. When I said "that" I meant the oratorio ;) - Just one less in BWV. I can't speak too much about an upcoming concert or someone will say canvassing or advertising. As you may have seen on my talk I received a logged warning in a contentious area for having said I rub my eyes, please watch. That's canvassing. Rubbing eyes is not neutral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I plead the 5th amendment! But thank you for the message. :) Cheers DBaK (talk) 17:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You plead what? - today a sad task - memory of Andrew Davis - turned into entertainment (yt at the bottom of his article, actually both) -- the latest pictures capture extreme weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Plead the Fifth is a protection against self-incrimination. It's me not wanting to comment in order to not get into trouble, albeit in a jokey way.
 * Wall done on Davies. What sad news ... he was excellent.
 * Mozart Requiem rehearsal tonight ... more on Friday, gig on Saturday. It is not exactly a challenging trumpet part but it is very, very satisfying to play. DBaK (talk) 21:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You may remember that the Requiem was also our last concert. Conductor's birthday is the same as Mozart's but he didn't usually like Mozart music (just the Ave verum and the Mass in C minor). It changed over dealing with the score. - I had no idea of that Grainger piece, - I just wanted to know what the image in my story shows ;) - Perhaps I should have made the story about that. However, today is the birthday of a friend with whom I went to Der Ring in Minden, so it had to be the Ring ;) - Her future husband and his colleague played the first notes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have again a rather sad story on the Main page, - yesterday's double bass story was more fun. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - May 2024
Delivered May 2024 by MediaWiki message delivery.

If you do not wish to receive the newsletter, please add an N to the column against your username on the Project Mainpage.

22:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Biddlestone Chapel
Hi, thanks for getting in touch, I hadn’t seen the talk page. Looking at pictures I quite agree but couldn’t find a source either, hopefully one crops up - there’s rumours it will move to BBC One, as some other Alibi shows have, which would increase the chances Hildreth gazzard (talk) 18:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Gosh – that would be fun! I shall watch keenly. I am sure an RS will turn up sooner or later. Thanks so much for the reply, cheers, DBaK (talk) 18:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * And thank you so much for adding those reviews! Best wishes DBaK (talk) 09:12, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 May 2024
 * Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:57, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Hah. Those 20 years.
Where did they go?

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 22:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC).


 * Hi Rich! Yes, the timing thing ... quite scary, isn't it? I must have been younger then ... if only I could remember!
 * Thanks so much for the message, cheers, DBaK (talk) 22:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

May music
On the bicentenary of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, I remember our recent uplifting choral concert in pictures, on my user page and in my concerts (leading to the two at the church's article). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Today is the Feast of the Ascension for which Bach composed his oratorio, - perhaps watch a bit how the closing movement was performed in Bach's church = pure trumpet joy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * oh nice! Thank you so much. DBaK (talk) 18:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Gosh, and the Sächsischen Barockorchester is rather useful too! I slightly wish I were playing, but it is lovely to watch and listen from out here! DBaK (talk) 18:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Magdalena Hinterdobler is on the Main page today, together with an opera that reviewers deemed not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - listen and see. - Also on the Main page: a TFA by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

yesterday's story remembered an oratorio world premiere I was in, conducted by the composer --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

I heard lovely chamber music today, and the DYK mentions "profoundly human" singing (that you can watch), connected to a place where we'll sing in September --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

I liked seeing Erschallet, ihr Lieder on the Main page today, 310 years after the first performance! Trumpets!! We sang it in 2000. Today's program was easier but also spirited. I found a nice video of "I will sing with the spirit", with nature photography, - enjoy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:28, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much, Gerda! Cheers DBaK (talk) 21:54, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:25, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I am off to do a lovely concert at the weekend, led by you-know-who's sister. Lots of French music and lots of lovely song in which the trumpet stays stumm, which works fine for me as it's just such a nice place to be! This tacet? – I can take it! (Old joke but yeah.) Cheers DBaK (talk) 17:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * you-know-who will play for the RMF, first time, children's concert - for listening pleasure, look up the baritone's article and look for youtube and Wohnzimmer (= living room): during the pandemic, he played in his parent's living room where he was caught, accompanying himself on the grand piano, until a duet in which his mother took the piano part while he not only sang the baritone role but also played the lines of the soprano (to be seduced) on the clarinet in between; he then accompanied his cellist sister, and finally sang a song with his dad who must have been c. 85, - enjoy! (talking "musical family") --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:13, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Today's story is my little contribution to Trinity Sunday, with a church named after the Trinity (which I'd have liked to see pictured, and what would be a good description of that kind of facade? "splendid" was reverted as not neutral) and a cantata Bach conducted 300 years ago for the occasion (having composed it 9 years earlier). No trumpets. I confess that I wrote the FA without having ever listened but did today and found it quite intimate and lovely. - Today an organist who regularly steps in for our cantor presented a great version of the Widor Toccata for the postlude after the service, so sparkling and lively in the upper register that often gets drowned by the bass cantus. Which reminded me of you-know-who practicing the piece on the same instrument for a sister's wedding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * 29 May 1913: The Rite of Spring - today's story, actually something I saw at that place in a revival. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Today's story is about Samuel Kummer, one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * last offer in May: photos of the river Rhine, and the adjacent Eltville rose garden, - high water and interesting weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - June 2024
Delivered June 2024 by MediaWiki message delivery.

If you do not wish to receive the newsletter, please add an N to the column against your username on the Project Mainpage.

18:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 8 June 2024
 * Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:25, 8 June 2024 (UTC)