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Writer credits in the film infobox
Hey there! :-) The discussion on the writer credits in the film infobox has really picked up in the last few days (basically all comments starting from July 30th), and we're now getting closer to a consensus. Currently, we are trying to determine if there are any objections to adding the fields "Screenplay by" and "Story by". The discussion is still located here. If you have read up on the suggestions and have any objections to these two fields, please post here. If some time goes by without objections, we will take these additions for granted and move on to the next solution. Thank you in advance! Prime Blue (talk) 16:28, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello, Dohhh22! We've had some updates on the talk page and it seems we are currently heading towards giving the original work title and the author in "easy" cases, and not to use that field for problematic cases like films based on multiple works (remakes, etc.). I just wanted to ask if this would be okay with you. Prime Blue (talk) 20:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Double Indemnity Project Part 5
We're due for a new section. If you feel like your page is all cluttered up, I think it'd be fine to dump the old DI Project sections, rather than archive 'em. I always put a link in the title for easy, direct, hopping to the article. Whadda guy, eh?

I tried to find a Wilder photo at the Lib of Congress, where the photos are public domain, but no luck. I was also hoping to find a shot from the premiere of DI, but absolutely nothin'. I prefer the younger Wilder shots, in a sweater w/o glasses, to the older ones; they not only look more like 1944, they look more like studio publicity shots. A Wilder photo down at the end will really finish it off nicely, but should probably be the last one we argue fair-use for; too many and we're asking for trouble. I wish the screencaps were about 33% larger, but I don't want to get back into that bee's nest.

You really moved fast on those footenotes! I'm impressed. I really like the way this is shaping up. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 05:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Howdy. I went through the whole piece and made a few adds and a few cleans... but I think we're just a Wilder photo away from Miller Time. (Hope you're not too young to get that reference.) — HarringtonSmith (talk) 03:15, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Always looking for work for you to do. I think we could use a cite here after the list of actors who declined the Neff role. Also maybe here too, after the quoted phrase "useless camera instruction." These just strike me as spots where someone'll slug in a tag. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 04:30, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

My last tough subject to bring up: I usually see footnotes done with the full listing — with city and publisher and ISBN — in the first mention, then "Surname, p. xxx," in subsequent cites. When one author has more than one entry (we have one like this, Phillips), entries after the first mention would be: "Phillips, Creatures, p. 112" or "Phillips, Some Like, p. 153." The good news: I can do the clerical work on this, and would be delighted to do so if you give me the word. (I hope doing it the other way didn't cost you too much time.) Let me know and I'll do the legwork. If you prefer it the way it is now, that's fine, too. Just let me know. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 05:45, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

You mad at me about the footnotes? — HarringtonSmith (talk) 00:37, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, was computerless over the weekend (roughing it in the woods). Whatever looks good or is the standard on the footnotes is ok with me. If you want to knock that out, no problem. I will work on those other cites.Dohhh22 (talk) 19:18, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Great! I'll do it. How does the thing look to you after a weekend in the WILDERness? — HarringtonSmith (talk) 19:40, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow. You have been busy! It looks great. Like you said, I think it is ready for prime time. That last photo would cap it off.Dohhh22 (talk) 22:32, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I didn't want to jump in because I don't know if you are editing right now and don't want to mess you up, but De Sylva was Paramount's artistic director at the time when the Rozsa/Lipstone incident occured and just happened to be producing Double Indemnity as well.Dohhh22 (talk) 01:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi. I was working off his wikipedia entry which had him as exec producer at Paramount in 1944, but I'll take your source any day! Fix it if you haven't already. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 02:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Switched it back to Artistic Director — HarringtonSmith (talk) 02:46, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Have a look here — HarringtonSmith (talk) 04:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I like it! I think it really adds the right punch to the end. I will see if I can get my hands on those last two books today and finish off the citations. This article really does look great. Thanks for all the help!Dohhh22 (talk) 14:29, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, you knew it was coming. I don't know where you found the picture, but looks like we will have to justify it.Dohhh22 (talk) 01:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


 * It wasn't the source of the photo or the use rationale the guy objected to — he didn't think there was enough "critical discussion" of it in the text. (The file is still up, he just removed it from the article.) If you check his contribs, you'll see that he just sits there and bounces photos, scores of 'em, one after another, never making a positive contribution, just being a bully. The text is nothing but Wilder, and that photo enhanced the readability of the page. Which is what really makes me sick about this place: improving the reading experience of the readers is the last thing on the minds of some editors; they're out to gratify their tough-guy egos as self-appointed nay-sayers and deleters. That's the fatal flaw of Wikipedia, and why it'll never be a great thing — because it doesn't care about its end-users. I understand the need to be careful about copyright issues, but I also know that that photo deletion was just a guy getting his rocks off. It hurt the article, and there's not a damn thing we can do about it. I'm this close to walking out of here and never coming back. I know my onions about publishing and I'm sick of being thwarted by editors who don't.


 * Thanks for listening. P.S.: it was a nice, touching caption, don't you think? — HarringtonSmith (talk) 02:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The photo is now showing up as an orphan, which makes it a more prominent target for deletion. I tried putting it on my own page, but the system doesn't seem to recognize that as an article. Ah well. I'm getting to hate this place. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 02:26, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I take it back — s/he has started quite a few articles. There was a real jag of photo deletions, though. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 02:31, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Kind of ridiculous, I agree.Dohhh22 (talk) 18:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I sent a respectful note to him/her, arguing that Wilder was central to the development of the film, but s/he was unmoved, saying that the picture didn't enhance readers' understanding, it only showed what Wilder looked like. No change of mind. That's why so many articles here are just vast wastes of gray. Pity. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 22:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Man, I just read the justification and I have to tell you, that argument just seems like opinion to me. There is no set of criteria that you can peg against to say it does or does not enhance the article for the reader, so how can it be argued that it does not?Dohhh22 (talk) 01:21, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * There hasn't been an edit since that one, so you could undo it. I don't feel I should undo it because it could be construed as starting an edit war. The choice is yours; you have my full backing (for all that's worth) whatever you decide. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 02:09, 12 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Hiya, Dohhh... No, I don't consider "our" article (don't let anyone hear that!) done, I'm just a little discouraged about that photo getting yanked. I poked around the Library of Congress looking for a public domain image — which we could dig in and keep reinstating because it's p.d. — but to no avail; the only Wilder photos they had were clearly Sunset or Some Like It Hot and wouldn't've worked like the one we had. I couldda sworn I once saw a Carl Van Vechten shot of him in the early '40s, and all those Van Vechtens are in the LOC and are p.d., but damned if I can find it. You still proud of the article? I am. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 17:19, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * WOW, Dohhh!!! Your music add is GREAT!!! Nice touch!! — HarringtonSmith (talk) 17:27, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. I think it came out great! I don't think there is much else that could be added.Dohhh22 (talk) 17:32, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * That goddamn picture could be, goddamit. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 17:55, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I gave the article another look tonight and really liked what I saw. You do nice work, Dohhh! Despite what Wilder said about a collaboration needing lots of contention, working with you was my most enjoyable Wikipedia experience, bar none. Thank you for it! — HarringtonSmith (talk) 02:35, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It was nice working with you as well. Maybe we will do another one sometime. I do like the way this came out despite not getting the pictures we wanted!Dohhh22 (talk) 20:27, 24 August 2010 (UTC)


 * You missed the fireworks tonight. An editor came in and rewrote the captions, in too many passes just to undo, so I had to try to fix 'em all by hand. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 02:20, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Unbelievable. Why do people feel the need to come in and make their stupid little preferential wording tweaks? Go work on an article that obviously has not had any effort put into it. There has to be a million of them out there.Dohhh22 (talk) 02:34, 25 August 2010 (UTC)


 * It turned out okay. After batting it back and forth a couple times, s/he went elsewhere. Which is fine. When I realize I've stumbled upon an article someone has/is cultivating, I always defer to them. I was hot at the time, but it turned out fine. (Still wish the trailer-playing box was bigger, though... go look how big the one is at Bonnie & Clyde. That's the size I'm used to seeing around the place here.
 * You realize, of course, you and I are like some couple who've had a child... there'll always be this article holding us together. I ran here right away after fixing the captions to tell you all about it! Hahahahaha! — HarringtonSmith (talk) 05:07, 25 August 2010 (UTC)


 * >Standing, smiling, applauding...< HooRAY, hooRAY, hooRAY! ! !  [see below] — HarringtonSmith (talk) 15:51, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, thank you. As much yours as mine. Honestly, I never would have gotten this far without your help.Dohhh22 (talk) 16:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey, Dohhh, how've you been? I got a note warning me that they're warming up to delete that Wilder photo which has been an unattached orphan. If we're going to try and get it back in, we — meaning you :) — need to try it in the next couple days before it gets deleted. I myself have been discouraged about this place. I've got an IP-account editor who's deleting stuff from my poor little hundred-hit-a-month Laurel & Hardy Silents articles, and it's gonna prove to be my tipping point. How you been doing? — HarringtonSmith (talk) 17:16, 13 September 2010 (UTC) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ef/BillyWilderParamountPubPhoto1942.png

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Infobox film
Hey. It appears that the discussion of how to use the "Based on" field has died out completely. As many issues are still unresolved, I feel that we need to breathe new life into the discussion.–FunkyVoltron talk 10:51, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Not sure it will matter. You can't say the sky is blue without getting an argument about what shade it is.Dohhh22 (talk) 02:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

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Hey, good to see you back in town!
How you been? — HarringtonSmith (talk) 22:37, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Good. How about you? Just dropped in to take a look. I see people still feel the need to add their little tweaks. One of the books I requested while I was doing the research on this finally came in, so I may add a thing or two if it looks interesting. Dohhh22 (talk) 23:38, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

If you're looking for reading matter, I gave "the treatment" to Strangers on a Train (film) and Notorious (1946 film) in your absence. Hope you like. And yeah, the thumbprinters are still around; User:Clarityfiend let Notorious languish incomplete, disorganized and inaccurate for years until I started working on it, then jumped right in and reverted most of my edits to the Plot section. Some things never change. Anyway, good to "see" you. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 23:56, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

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