User talk:Doortmont

Welcome to wikipedia and thankyou for your contributions. PLease see our system of categories for articles and general layout. Als please try to add a bit more initial info to assert notability of the person as many new page monitors are always looking to dleete things. Good luck editing. All encyclopedic contribtions related to the Netherlands are very welcome indeed,  ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦       "Talk"? 19:21, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Archives
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 * Archive 1: September 2007 – May 2008

Treaty of Axim (1642)
I have started to review this article. I have left a few suggestions for improvement on the talk page. I will add some more once I have completed a full review. Anonymous101 (talk) 20:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Responding to a stale question
This past Spring, you spotted an error in the introductory paragraphs of Order of the Sacred Treasure -- and, thanks to your sharp eye and the timely posting on the talk page, an easily corrected problem has now been resolved. It would have been better if there hadn't been such a long delay, but there you have it. Good work, nice editing. As soon as you pointed it out, it became so obvious that something was not quite right .... --Tenmei (talk) 17:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * YOU WROTE: In the header of the article it is stated that before 1981 only Japanese males were qualified to receive the order. However, from the list of recipients it is clear that many foreign men received the order before 1981. Who can clarify this? I do not read Japanese. Michel Doortmont (talk) 12:36, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * POSTED RESPONSE: It may be awarded for civil or military merit. Non-Japanese were first awarded The Order of the Rising Sun in 1981, and women became eligible for the award in 2003. --Tenmei (talk) 17:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Review of Cornelius Hermanus Wessels
Hey, I reviewed your nominated article of Cornelius Hermanus Wessels for GA. I would have notified you of the review process earlier, however I unfortunately found that the article should be failed quickly. You can read my full review at Talk:Cornelius_Hermanus_Wessels/GA1 and hopefully start addressing the problems I found. If you have any more questions or suggestions please don't hesitate to ask. The article shows potential its just way too raw right now. Hopefully all of your questions can be answered on the review page. Good luck on your future editting and I hope that one day the article can be renominated! --Banime (talk) 19:37, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * If you need any help regarding the article please let me know and I'll be happy to help. I'm sure this article can be improved!  Good luck again.  --Banime (talk) 14:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Haha, hey man my offer still stands if you want help on improving the article to GA status. Just let me know what I can do! Unfortunately I don't have much expertise on the subject but I can learn. --Banime (talk) 16:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

NowCommons: File:3e Raadszaal OVS VA0970.jpg
File:3e Raadszaal OVS VA0970.jpg is now available on Wikimedia Commons as Commons:File:3e Raadszaal OVS VA0970.jpg. This is a repository of free media that can be used on all Wikimedia wikis. The image will be deleted from Wikipedia, but this doesn't mean it can't be used anymore. You can embed an image uploaded to Commons like you would an image uploaded to Wikipedia, in this case:. Note that this is an automated message to inform you about the move. This bot did not copy the image itself. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 09:16, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject South Africa
I have recently overhauled WikiProject South Africa with the following:
 * Improving collaboration of participants by adding an Open tasks section with specific as well as common tasks
 * Added link to the CatScan tool to find articles needing cleanup, referencing and expanding
 * Added common tasks that should be performed on Portal:South Africa
 * Added information on how to add Geographical coordinates
 * Added articles missing Images
 * Added assessment information
 * Improving the layout to make access to information easier
 * Added simple "How can I help?" instructions for new project members
 * Extended the Resources section to assist participants in finding South Africa related information
 * Added bot generated Article alerts
 * Added a bot generated Cleanup listing
 * Added more information on template usage
 * Added a section on language usage
 * Improved the categories section with trees for category:South Africa Wikipedia administration and category:South Africa
 * Added link to Wikipedia Books
 * Marked inactive sections of the project as inactive

Comments, constructive criticism and suggestions for improving it further are welcome --NJR_ZA (talk) 07:23, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Stellenbosch to bid for Wikimania 2012!
Hi Doortmont!

The nascent South African Wikimedia chapter has decided to bid to host Wikimania in Stellenbosch, South Africa in 2012. This would be the first Wikimania in South Africa, and would be a great advertisement for our country. Please take a look at meta:Wikimania_2012/Bids/Stellenbosch. If you can add to the discussion, please do. If you feel that you are able to do anything to help, please join the Wikimedia South Africa mailing list and let us know. Even simple messages of support are valued!

Best regards,

David Richfield

Wiki Loves Monuments in South Africa
Dear WikiProject South Africa Wikipedians

This is an urgent call from Wikimedia South Africa. We are currently working hard on the South African side of the exciting international photographic competition, Wiki Loves Monuments. We have been planning to make this national competition really take off, but to do so, we need your help! The competition starts on the 1st September, and we need your help now! If you are interested in being part of or can help the Wiki Loves Monuments national organising team, then please join here [ http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_in_South_Africa]. If you have limited time, but want to help out at an upload marathon at a heritage site near you, please then contact either Lourie [louriepieterse@yahoo.com] or Isla [islahf@africacentre.net]. We look forward to hearing from you!"

Kind regards, Lourie

Sent by Lucia Bot in 13:58, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Ghana cedi
An article that you have been involved in editing, Ghana cedi, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Jack Bornholm (talk) 18:04, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Contests
User:Dr. Blofeld has created WikiProject Africa/Contests. The idea is to run a series of contests/editathons focusing on each region of Africa. He has spoken to Wikimedia about it and $1000-1500 is possible for prize money. As someone who has previously expressed interest in African topics, would you be interested in contributing to one or assisting draw up core article/missing article lists? He says he's thinking of North Africa for an inaugural one in October. If interested please sign up in the participants section of the Contest page, thanks.♦ -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:15, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Issued notification of copyright infringement
Just added a notification of copyright infringement possible illegal acquisition and publication of data to User:Fentener van Vlissingen, for many pages on the history of Ghana. This is the text of the notification:

Dear Sir,

This is to notify you that I have lodged a complaint of copyright infringement with Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons with regard to all the materials you have retrieved from my website Gold Coast DataBase (http://gcdb.doortmontweb.org). I refer here to the regulations for the use of this database, set out clearly on the regulations and disclaimer page (http://gcdb.doortmontweb.org/disclaimer.php):

"Registered users are licensed to use the contents of this site, but only for the purpose of personal or professional academic research. Content may only be downloaded as search results relevant to that research. Incidental use of data is allowed and governed by the written and unwritten rules of academic engagement (i.e. due and proper quotations, citations and references need to be provided at all times),

These electronic pages may not be reproduced in any format for profit or presentation by other organizations. Persons or organizations desiring to use this material for non-commercial purposes must obtain my written consent. This means you may not put my data on your web site, unless there is a written agreement between us.

Site-owners and administrators are free to provide links to this site without my prior agreement, but only to the home page gcdb.doortmontweb.org and never directly to any of the sub-pages of this site."

You are not a registered user of the site, and I believe you have used the formerly available option of guest access to approach the data and download these in an unauthorised and possibly illegal manner.

Also, you have dowloaded and republished images from the said database, which are now in Wikimedia Commons. Several of these images are private property and their usage is regulated by registration to the database and written permission by me. You do not have that permission. Others are harvested from publications that are still in copyright or were at the time of retrieval and republication.

Also, you provide links to specific data-pages in the database as references. This is equally not permitted. You can only provide a link to the homepage without permission. Besides, publishing links is only permitted to site-owners and administrators, which you are not as far as Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons are concerned.

I demand you repair all infringements by removing all text and images that directly or indirectly derive from the Gold Coast DataBase. You have until 15 September 2016 to do this.

Yours sincerely, M.R. Doortmont (Michel Doortmont 15:26, 6 September 2016 (UTC))

Warning - Do Not Make Legal Threats
Mr. Doortmont, your request to remove copyrighted information is perfectly reasonable, but then you end the request with a threat to take legal action in the last paragraph. You also accuse the editor of "theft under Dutch law". Wikipedia has a very strict policy against making legal threats: WP:LEGAL. This policy requires any editor who makes a legal threat to be blocked indefinitely until they rescind the threat. Please delete the last paragraph that makes the legal threat and the sentence accusing someone of theft so that you can avoid being blocked. Also, there are several ways to deal with copyright violations. First, you can simply remove the material, and note in your edit summary that you are removing a copyright violation, and create a discussion on the article's talk page that the material you removed was a copyright violation and had to be removed. If that does not resolve the issue, you can blank the article or section containing the copyright violation and replace it with this:. Administrators will then handle it from there. For more information, go to: WP:CV Mmyers1976 (talk) 16:04, 6 September 2016 (UTC)


 * You also need to realize there is a legitimate perspective that says you don't own the copyright. If the images were in the public domain when you added them to your database, I don't think you can claim a copyright.  You do own your database and of course can restrict access as you please to that database, but copyright (at least here in the US) means you physically own the image, ie: you took the photo, you bought it outright or inherited it.  Something like that.  Merely being in possession or hosting it doesn't qualify as ownership in the US, where Wikipedia's servers are located.  This doesn't mean you are wrong, it only means it isn't as cut and dry as it might seem to be to you.  As has been explained, you need to withdraw your threat to sue or you force us to block you from editing, per our well established policy at WP:NLT.  It really is not tolerated.  Then you can begin a dialog at WP:CV, as Mmyers1976 has indicated.  Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 18:10, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Or rather, commons:COM:VPC since the images are on Wikimedia Commons, not on Wikipedia - we can't do anything about them there. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:22, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, are you are correct Jo-Jo. I see that  has withdraw the threat, now all that is left is to deal with the issue of copyright over at Commons in a calm, respectful manner.  We don't want copyright infringing material here, but first the copyright has to be established, there at Commons. Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 18:58, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * This is not only about the images, but also about the use of texts and research materials that are copyrighted and held on a private website, including the manner of linking to that website. So this is also a Wikipedia matter. (Michel Doortmont 19:19, 6 September 2016 (UTC))
 * Well, the images would have to go there and that is a good place to start. As far as copyrighted text here, then yes, following the advice at WP:CV here is best.  What you have to keep in mind is that we don't allow infringement and are very strict, but we verify first.  And we are all volunteers, so it doesn't happen in a few hours.  For your benefit, the key is to keep calm and trust that we will investigate.  Investigating text is a lot easier if we have access to both, using the Wayback Machine, for instance, to show who used the text first.  Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 20:14, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I will wait patiently for the verdict, have put one article on copyright violation notification with the administrators. This one is soly based on the private materials from the website, which is - I say it once more - clearly and strictly regulated. (i.e. unauthorised use of private materials, and possibly both copyright violation and plagiarism). See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_George_Frederik_Derx. Michel Doortmont 20:24, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * If I am correct, the core issue of the usage of data from http://gcdb.doortmontweb.org/index.php is about the right to use database materials, which in this case is governed by these considerations https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Database_Rights, more specifically the European Database Directive. And this should then govern both the use of raw data, text, format, and images. Michel Doortmont 20:45, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks useful and you may be onto something. Copyright policy is beyond my area of expertise.  Let me be clear, I don't have a dog in this fight, I don't have a side, my job is just to keep the peace and keep people out of trouble.  Patience and a cool demeanor will serve you well here.  I get the feeling that is your normal style, so that is good.  Like I said, we are all volunteers.  We have tons of lawyers who are volunteers as well. So I say this as purely a friendly reminder: The people who make decisions here want to and will do the right thing, it may just take more patience on your part than you would like.  It is still the fastest way to a resolution.  Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 21:02, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Changing citations
Replacing a link to http://gcdb.doortmontweb.org/getperson.php?personID=I223&tree=Africa with http://gcdb.doortmontweb.org creates a hoax: the author cited the former page, not the front page of your website, and I strongly doubt that the front page of your website was entitled "Derx, Willem George Frederik" on 23 September 2013, but the result of your edit was an article that told readers that the information had been obtained from a page entitled "Derx" etc. at your website's main URL. Further disruption of any sort will result in the imposition of sanctions. Nyttend (talk) 12:28, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Not disruption, but as stated in comment, a reference to the page that is actually accessible, giving the information the user needs to register, understand the meaning of the database, its private nature, and then look up the required information. I am sorry the edit is incomplete, but the original reference is no longer valid and ends up at a registration form without explanation. Not very helpful I guess. Due to the PRIVATE NATURE of the database and the necessity to register before being able to use it, this seems inescapable. Or are you next going to order me to make the database public? I suggest that the original editor changes the references in such manner that users of these pages understand where and how they can get access to the information cited in the pages. To avoid any nefarious consequences to my status as Wikipedia user - rightfully or wrongfully (I think the latter) I will refrain from any further editorial actions on the contended pages.Michel Doortmont 12:49, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I have now added a note the weblink that says "" so while the direct link is preserved it is made clear that registration and login is required to access the source of this information. De728631 (talk) 19:39, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Michel Doortmont 09:28, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Invite to the African Destubathon
Hi. You may be interested in participating in the African Destubathon which starts on October 15. Africa currently has over 37,000 stubs and badly needs a quality improvement editathon/contest to flesh out basic stubs. There are proposed substantial prizes to give to editors who do the most geography, wildlife and women articles, and planned smaller prizes for doing to most destubs for each of the 53 African countries, so should be enjoyable! Even if contests aren't your thing we would be grateful if you could consider destubbing a few African articles during the drive to help the cause and help reduce the massive 37,000 + stub count, of which many are rated high importance (think Regions of countries etc). If you're interested in competing or just loosely contributing, whether it's a river in Malawi, a Nigerian footballer, or a South African civil rights activist, please add your name to the Contestants/participants section. Diversity of work from a lot of people will make this that bit more special. For those of you who signed up to the North African contest, that will hopefully be held in the new year. Thanks. --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:11, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Europe 10,000 Challenge invite
Hi. The WikiProject Europe/The 10,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like Germany, Italy, the Benelux countries, Iberian Peninsula, Romania, Slovenia etc, much like The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. If you would like to see masses of articles being improved for Europe and your specialist country like WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon, sign up today and once the challenge starts a contest can be organized. This is a way we can target every country of Europe, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant and also sign under any country sub challenge on the page that you might contribute to! Thank you. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:50, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Women in Red World Contest
Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!

Nomination of Otto Ferdinand Muller von Czernicki for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Otto Ferdinand Muller von Czernicki is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Otto Ferdinand Muller von Czernicki until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Lettlerhello • contribs 17:22, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

You have been pruned from a list
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