User talk:EEMIV/Archive14

File:Poweroverwhelming.JPG
So how do I dispute the disputation of the NFCC rationale? I'm interested in upgrading the FUR and explaining the context of the screenshot. Thanks, Jclemens (talk) 23:13, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

VitasV
We were right. Some charitable lad offered a one month ban, but is willing to extend it if folk weigh in. I have; thought you might feel the same.- Arcayne   (cast a spell)  08:44, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Merge cleanup

 * In response to this

Oh, I'm going to, not to worry. Thank you for the reminder, though! - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 01:18, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Nemesis Enforcer Nominated for Deletion.
I was the one that restarted the page, I have added a few more references, and a little more to the page. Can you check it over and let me know what else is needed for it not to be deleted? Sgetz (talk) 22:12, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Boba Fett

 * In response to this

Kia ora EEMIV, my edits are not at all acts of vandalism. Jango Fett was a Maori and Boba Fett was his son, therefore Boba Fett is also a Maori. Chirs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Te pac (talk • contribs) 17:06, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Lt.Stone/Sgt.Stone
Lt.Stone or Sgt.Stone have the same name meaning they can be the same characters but with diffirent personality like: in GI joe extreme he was an american agent, in GI Joe Sigma 6 he was a britsh spy agent & in GI joe Rise of Cobra his a trainer for the GI Joe logically —Preceding unsigned comment added by Optimusred6 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Cite a source substantiating this claim; otherwise, it is original research. Perhaps the inclusion of all those other iterations on that page is similarly speculative error, if there's no evidence they're intended to be the same character. --EEMIV (talk) 19:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Why change Lt. Stone (G.I. Joe) to Lt. Stone ?
change back Lt.Stone to Lt.Stone (GI Joe) because sometimes that can be used in different franchise or maybe the name of real people so it's logically that we Precise that he is menber of GI Joe. I will add a page of Sgt stone in Lt.Stone page but in other media. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Optimusred6 (talk • contribs) 06:52, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I have reverted it. The MOS standard at Wikipedia is unless there actually IS another use, disambiguation text (i.e. the stuff in parentheses) isn't used. --EEMIV (talk) 13:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * In addition to WP:NAME, please also absorb the fact that copy-and-pasting content is about the worst way to carry out a page move. --EEMIV (talk) 14:03, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Stop change changing Lt. Stone
it is acts of vandalism, With all respect stop changing Lt. Stone (G.I. Joe) to Lt. Stone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Optimusred6 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Just stepping in here for a minute - it's not an act of vandalism - there is no other character who could exist at Lt. Stone, so the (GI Joe) is not needed. --Cameron Scott (talk) 14:11, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Cobra: Zartan
"hey, then how about saying it in the stupid article"

No need for the attitude. I'll answer your question anyhow. Whistling is a distinctive character trait and worth mentioning in the character description. In terms of a story telling a very obvious cue for any viewers who missed that Zartan was in disguise. I think you mention too much plot in the character summary. If I were to add more detail I'd borrow from the description that comes with the toy which notes that Zartan is a master of disguise and could be hidden as anyone, even a member of GI Joe (which hints at the incident in the pit without being a spoiler). I might rephrase to reduce the spoiler but I'm not going to delete your change. I'll be interested to see if other editors change it. -- Horkana (talk) 05:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Sgt stone/Lt Stone
you can put Sgt.stone in Lt.stone as other media even if they are diffirent characters but they have the same name & they both train new recuit for GI Joe. EEMIV fuck you if you remove one more time the article of sgt stone in Lt.Stone.

Suggestion in discussion
Dear EEMIV, while I realize we typically disagree, I nevertheless do not think one should hold back when he or she has a positive thought. So, anyway, I just wanted to note that I think this suggestion is relatively thoughtful and sound and the kind of comment I would encourage and like to see in such discussion. So, kudos and all the best! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 19:49, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. --EEMIV (talk) 20:07, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Have a wonderful weekend!  Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 21:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Annika Hansen
Thank you for your help in the matter, much appreciated. :) Ejfetters (talk) 04:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

TheGrandAmanin
you know what, I don't like you. Leave me alone. don't touch my stuff or I'll touch yours. Okay? OKAY????????? Good. And I will do it, too. --TheGrandAmanin (talk) 14:16, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Ki Adi Mundi
I see you have plenty to do with and are very knowledgeable about Star Wars in general. I wonder if you could take a look at my post on KAM's talk page and give me your thoughts cheers.--86.131.217.119 (talk) 19:28, 3 September 2009 (UTC)RS 3/09/09


 * Responded there. Thanks for asking. --EEMIV (talk) 22:30, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi its me (86.131.217.119) except now I have an account! I've discoverd a website, Wookieepedia which claims to be the "Star Wars wiki". On KAM's page (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ki-Adi-Mundi), (third paragrph of biography section) it says that he was both married and had children. Do you think it should be added on this page or not? --BRFC78 (talk) 21:22, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Regarding your reversions to Mario (series)
You seem to be heading towards a potential edit war, may I suggest discussing the content with the user rather than taking it in turns to revert each others changes? Also please assume good faith of other editors, and avoid calling their contributions "Useless", or picking on their grammar and sentance structure in edit summaries. Remember, bad grammar is not a reason to remove content, it should simply be rewritten. Thanks, and happy editing! --Taelus (talk) 12:17, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Prior to his one-month block, VitasV ignored attempts at communication and resorted to creating multiple socks. Although some of his contributions to Wikipedia might be useful, the overwhelming number are trivial and a waste of bandwidth; I'm happy to and will revert insipid and incoherent edits as they crop up. --EEMIV (talk) 12:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Video Game character deletion/redirection.
FYI, I've asked for some assistance at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games. It's my hope that some folks will step up and help you clean up the affected articles appropriately. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 00:31, 6 September 2009 (UTC)


 * The characters I redirected are wholly insignificant to the real world. At best, a List of Monkey Island characters offering an examination of their design, development and voicing would be appropriate* -- but none of the current content needs/should be retained, poor as it is. Folks energies would probably be better spent on trimming the absolutely insane quantity of fair-use-violating images and plotcruft from World of Monkey Island. --EEMIV (talk) 02:19, 6 September 2009 (UTC)


 * So why not try to do cleanup, instead of jumping in with both feet with deletion nominations like that of Guybrush Threepwood? All you've succeeded in doing is raising hackles. Did you make any effort at finding sources, or thinking of merge targets, like is recommended in WP:BEFORE? Fences  &amp;  Windows  14:51, 6 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, I looked for sources. None of the crufty plot trivia is worth merging. My redirects for the meaningless characters were reverted, so I figured an AfD would settle they don't warrant articles. As for the protagonist/antagonist in Monkey Island, I was less certain about their notability (but did check Google Books), hence AfDing them to draw attention and see if anyone could assert their notability. Notice that LeChuck had been flagged for sources for almost two years; certainly that one has had plenty of time for folks to try to clean 'em up. As for raising hackles: I really couldn't care less. --EEMIV (talk) 15:06, 6 September 2009 (UTC)


 * EEMIV, are you aware that just such a combination list, that had been previously merged, was deleted from the main article earlier today by TTN? [ ]. I'd be very glad to support merges and sometimes even redirects, but not if this is going to happen. I have a good deal of sympathy with your position that there is not necessarily all the much to say, even if there is a reference. But it's more important to protect content than to worry whether it ends up divided into too many unnecessary articles.    DGG ( talk ) 21:25, 6 September 2009 (UTC)


 * No, although I'd point out that those characters are even more minor than the ones at AfD, and might be a sound removal. (That article as a whole is an absolute failure of just about everything an article should be.) Still, I appreciate the concern about crufty stuff all being merged into a single List of X, whether a separate semi-article or integrated into a larger one, only to be targeted for wholesale zapping. That's not my goal. I'm generally content (no pun intended) to let such lists sit, provided they exemplify brevity and offer a real-world treatment of their subjects; in fact, that's pretty much what I've done with a host of Star Wars character and vehicle lists. In this case, the list of characters and their roles in the Monkey Island (series) article offers sufficient treatment weighted against their significance. If someone wants to offer a real-world treatment of them, great -- but, the current articles offer nothing of redeeming Wikipedic value, so there's no particular reason to retain them. If some or all of the articles wind up as keepers, then sobeit -- the first thing I'll do when AfD concludes, then, is largely stubbify them and see whether they go/grow anywhere. --EEMIV (talk) 00:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I know that's not your goal. I wrote to you as one of the reasonable people about this. I agree we did some understanding about how much to include, and sometimes a mention on a list is enough. But we won't reach the understanding by reverting each other. I suggest we all might do better to agree first on how much should be removed. I think, for example, pretty near everyone agrees about Star Wars vehicles. Characters get a little trickier. Is it worthwhile making another attempt at a guideline, the way MASEM was trying? You won't get it the way you want, and neither will I, but it'll be better that arguing back and forth.    DGG ( talk ) 02:48, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * VGSCOPE is a good start. FICT was (kinda) an attempt at the broader picture, but we know what happened to the best shot that had at being a guideline. Protonk (talk) 03:01, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Interestingly enough, I always thought FICT could take a lesson from VGSCOPE, which is both a content and style guide (i.e. FICT + WAF = fiction version of VGSCOPE). Anyway, tangent ... --EEMIV (talk) 03:05, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a fair comment. We probably tried too hard to make it into an end-all solution to the notability wars. Protonk (talk) 03:21, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah -- rather than focusing on it as a topic inclusion guide, set it up as a framework for what articles on fictional topics should include (i.e. prescribe a structure that articles about fictional elements should plausibly be able to fill in). I suppose it'd be a topic inclusion guide by implication, but perhaps still leave enough wiggleroom that folks more inclined toward inclusion don't feel they're being smacked in the face so much. --EEMIV (talk) 03:32, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * There have been a number of guides that would do, if everyone will stick to them, and it has the right range of flexibility--it both directions--not so little that it can't accommodate different things; not so great that it amounts to nothing. But it still does take some agreement about what it will actually say. And, even more, some agreement to use it, and not try to override it with NOT and WP:N applied rigidly or oddly--in either direction. Conflicting guidelines need to be explicitly over-riden or changed to prevent such wikilawyering.
 * As for VG/AN, it manages to avoid all the current problems, and I suggest meeting them as follows One "Excessive fictional details" needs to be changed to define "concise" as "concise but adequate." MAXEM proposed reasonable lengths, but his ranges were aimed at other types of fiction, & based on size of the work, so they don't directly apply here--I'm not sure how to be specific with this genre.  Two There needs to be a section about characters that says that all named characters that actually appear, or are referred to substantially, or are needed to understand the plot, will be listed, or given sections, in proportion to their importance and how much to say  (accepting there be no separate articles for them except for truly substantial secondary coverage, even if they technically meet the GNG)  Three "Lists of gameplay items, weapons, or concepts" needs to be modified to include Locations, and say that any named element that actually appear, or are referred to substantially, or are needed to understand the plot,will be at least listed, and given information corresponding to their importance  etc, as above.   Now, I strongly dislike reducing the possibility of separate character articles even if the meet GNG, but I expect others will dislike including all characters, and we will all have to do something we strongly dislike if we are going to reach any compromise.    I know this isn't formallly the place for this, but here's where we  all seem to be.   DGG ( talk ) 05:58, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

WS02 change coming to template...
Please take a look at my latest entry at "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Honorverse#WS1.2C_WS2.2C_etc_versus_WS01.2C_WS02_i.e.:_conflict_with_.27Waardenburg_syndrome.2C_a_genetic_disorder.27." LP-mn (talk) 01:13, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Just a quick request for clarification
Hi! In an AfD you wrote that we should not respond to each other. I am cool with that, but just to be sure you are saying we both can comment in discussions in which one or the other commented first, but just not actually reply directly to each other or say mention the other in our comment, right, i.e. say our peace but not as an indented reply to each other and basically just not fruitlessly go back and forth? By the way, Happy Labor Day! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 02:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I mean in terms of responding to each other's !votes, and to follow-up comments we give to others. I'm frankly surprised that you persist in offering me and TTN et al. with "JNN isn't a valid reason for deletion" and other boilerplate that clearly won't sway us, and is one more tick-mark for those (myself included) whose criticisms of you include badgering folks at AfD. --EEMIV (talk) 03:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

TTN comment
in a related matter, I agree your edit was better. I just wanted to get it removed quickly, so thanks for the help.  DGG ( talk ) 02:43, 7 September 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem. --EEMIV (talk) 03:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

September 2009
Hello

It will be one year almost to the day since our last exchange. Just dropping a friendly response to both that and my last edit. I had based the other information entry-regarding Jem'Hadar (rank/title) similarity, with parsing of its context to the prior edit done by user: "136.152.133.93". I had deemed it as relevant, but this was not apparently the case. So there are no misunderstandings, my source was taken from the "TNG" episode only for example of the common root word from a fictional connection; besides the real word connection. I shall continue to further convey credibility in future changes, as I hope this in no way was taken as an offense. No reply is necessary, but will gladly accept any feedback. Energicko (talk) 12:17, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


 * If there's a source that cites a deliberate etymological allusion/reference in creating the Jem'Hadar's name, and one that similar substantiates an eye toward the historical title as used in the TNG episode, that could be worth citing, perhaps in a much-needed Development section. As presented, however, it was just a happy trivial coincidence. --EEMIV (talk) 12:49, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Trek73
An article that you have been involved in editing, Trek73, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Alastairward (talk) 21:31, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Lists of gameplay modes
Hey, I've been patrolling video game articles on wikipedia for some time now, primarily following the WP:GAMEGUIDE and WP:VGSCOPE. It hadn't really occurred to me to delete such lists before, but come to think of it, descriptions of gameplay belongs... in the gameplay section I guess. Eik Corell 06:51, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Recent editing to page Enterprise (NX-01)
The edit I made to the page are based on factual information, why is it that I'm being stopped from doing this?

Allan


 * See WP:RS, WP:CITE. --EEMIV (talk) 00:34, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

WP:CIVIL on Talk: Star Trek
Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing.

I do not appreciate you trying to illustrate bad faith on my part on the Star Trek talk page. By judging my remark about the actions the other editors took, you have made a personal judgement against me. My comment was in response to the nature of the response; the fact that there was not only a misinterpretation, but direct actions that disregarded my attempt to good faith edits. I explained the situation, including diffs, and you have continued to harass me on the talk page and attempt to make me look bad. I ask you to please stop and drop this discussion immediately and return to the content of the article itself and the solutions/discussions regarding it. Under WP:CIVIL:

Editors are human, capable of mistakes, so a few, minor, isolated incidents of incivility are not in themselves a major concern. A behavioral pattern of incivility is disruptive and unacceptable, and may result in blocks if it rises to the level of harassment or egregious personal attacks.

In a moment of disbelief and shock, because the tags were blanked by two editors, and then the discussion listed as "closed," without so much as waiting for a response, and the cut-and-dry response on the talk page that all but eliminated the discussion for a consensus on the subject lead me to make the statement: "Wow. Impressive misinterpretations."

Your continued personal judgements and statements are rude and directed right at me. I consider what you are doing as harassment and I have already asked you to stop. You then continued. I will not ask you again to stop. -- ☯ Lightbound ☯   talk   03:54, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I tried addressing you on the article talk-page in an open-minded manner, acknowledging your justified anger at your merge tags being removed and apt observation that material at Rick Berman would be better off elsewhere. However, you've also adopted an antagonistic, or at least self-righteous, tone in your responses and, now, here on my talk page. I think the edits you've made and expressed an interest in making to Rick Berman are appropriate, and I agree you have a reason to be aggrieved by the merger tag removals -- but, that doesn't justify adopting a pissy attitude. If that isn't your intent, then please take a moment to at least consider that's how you're coming off. --EEMIV (talk) 04:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Even now, I have never used a negative adjective to describe you. In fact I have never described you. I have only asked you to stop. I have never described anyone, nor told anyone how I feel about them or what I think of them, as you have. I have kept things on the content. I am allowed to express emotion about content; I am a human being. I am not allowed to condemn others. Your judgements of my attitude have ironically made you the culprit of the very accusations you make against me. I extend my hand in friendship, to end this, but I am not sure you will take it. Let this dispute end. -- ☯ Lightbound ☯   talk   04:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

LOL. That was a great cup of tea. Accepted. -- ☯ Lightbound ☯   talk   04:18, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Star Wars Family Tree
Give me a chance to get it all done, If it still doesnt satisfy Wiki concerns then please delete it. But untill i am finished with it i ask that you please Give me a decent chance to finish it.

Also the Wookiepedia will not allow me to create it, since they are arrogant and refuse to allow an individual to create a page dedicated to tracking the family line.

Verifiable will be posted on the Wiki, but please give me a decent chance to finish it before making Judgements. Thank you

If any further concerns, e-mail me at jpoland@ca.ibm.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kystien (talk • contribs) 15:43, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Star Wars Family Tree
Give my Article a chance and allow me to make it good, and you will have 1 Wiki instead of two. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kystien (talk • contribs) 23:05, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Transformers pages

 * Hi, I did talk a bit before making the pages. See Talk:Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. The anonymous IP is me, since I wasn't logged in at the time. I see your point, and so if people agree on the articles being re-created, then the appropriate templates should be put on the pages to initiate cleanup. The G1 character articles seem to suffer from the same problems, but to an even greater degree.
 * Actually, the Transformers articles aren't too well maintained compared to the articles for franchises such as Star Wars. Another idea I have would be to do a massive cleanup of all Transformers pages so that they comply with Wikipedia's guidelines; to remove unnecessary details, completely remove toy and trivia sections, and make the main character articles short enough so that the somewhat annoying "other incarnations" pages aren't necessary.
 * I might propose such a cleanup on the WikiProject page, but before I do that, I'll make an ideal Megatron page at User:Eh! Steve/Megatron to use as an example. Would you mind helping me with it? You know a lot more about the guidelines (and probably about Transformers) than I do. Once I create it, I'll give you permission to edit it. Thanks.--Eh! Steve (talk) 01:07, 10 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eh! Steve (talk • contribs)
 * I think there are one or two obsessive Transformers fans who continue to laden the Transformers articles with needless trivia, superfluous images, and other dreck -- see the section below for one example of a Transformers one-trick pony. I might take a whack at some of these this weekend. --EEMIV (talk) 02:35, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Right on. What the Transformers articles need instead of endless descriptions of their Robot Chicken appearances and scale of their toys are "reception" sections detailing their influence on popular culture (NOT their various appearances in popular culture), and various reviews, polls and views on the character, like with the pages on other fictional characters.
 * Also, the toy sections and "other incarnations" pages need to be gotten rid of. The toy sections hardly consist of encyclopedic content (the G.I. Joe pages don't even have them!), and the "other incarnations" pages split articles about re-imaginings of the same character, give an unfair bias towards the G1 version as "superior", and are probably a result of the aforementioned toy and trivia sections and other infodump. If you have time, could you plz give me a few pointers on User:Eh! Steve/Megatron? I'd be really glad to accept any sort of help from established users in editing the page, if you'd like permission to edit the page (since it's a user page), just let me know.
 * Anyway, thanks for pointing out the problems with the pages.--Eh! Steve (talk) 04:10, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Optimus Prime split
What the heck does writing style have to do with splitting an article off? Either cease erasing the new page, or restore the old one it came from. You deleting the new page, but leaving the page to redirect upon itself, with the orignal text missing is useless. Megatron (Paramount) Mathewignash (talk) 02:18, 10 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Faced with such a bevy of ridiculous content forks, it's understandable I made an error. Fixed (which you could just have easily done). --EEMIV (talk) 02:21, 10 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I was in the process of fixing your edits. Mathewignash (talk) 02:25, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Chiss
Sorry about that. Still new here. Doc Quintana (talk) 00:42, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


 * An easy mistake; don't sweat it. --EEMIV (talk) 00:44, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Citation Template
And thanks for the citation template. Doc Quintana (talk) 17:42, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Hasbro Darth Vader Voice Changer
Another editor and I have added references to Hasbro Darth Vader Voice Changer. You may want to revisit Articles for deletion/Hasbro Darth Vader Voice Changer (2nd nomination). -- Eastmain (talk) 22:14, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

October 2009
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Doug Fields. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. ''I realize you are trying to revert changes that appear to be vandalism, but this is starting to look like a bit like a content war. '' Orlady (talk) 04:20, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * *sigh* mmhmm. --EEMIV (talk) 04:23, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Chronology of Star Wars
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Chronology of Star Wars
An AFD discussion that you have previously participated in has been reignited. See here for more the new discussion. Dale 11:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of James T. Kirk
The article James T. Kirk you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:James T. Kirk for things needed to be addressed. Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 08:50, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Your Incorrect Tagging of Articles for deletion nomination of Jeff Winger
FYI, it is not the proper procedure (albeit one that show bad faith as well) to first "prod" tag an article and then once it has been improved with explanation from an editor, tag it for AfD. I explained to you clearly that notability is that this show is primetime on NBC, it has been top-rated and there is a possibility for a Golden Globe already in the works. Jeff Winger is the shows protagonist. What other aspects would satisfy your aritrary/POV threshold of notability? As a last suggestion for the future (that is, if you want to make friends on WP rather than foes) is to contact the creater of the article first to get their input. Needless to say you neglected to do that here. Please don't turn this into an edit war. --Anubis3 (talk) 20:21, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * You are conflating the show's notability with the character's. Notability is not inherited. --EEMIV (talk) 20:48, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Edit Policing/Stalking

 * 1. Contacting a single user is NOT canvassing no matter what spin you put on it.
 * 2. Unitacode did not "edit" Jeff Winger in any contructive way so much as deleted content and redirect unilaterally (completely against WP policy).
 * 3. Please stop policing/stalking my edits.

Finally, even if the Jeff Winger article is deleted or merged now, it's going to be recreated eventually. It's inevitable. Ignoring this would simply be short-sighted. So I don't know what all your fuss is about (or why you particularly don't care for this subject, for that matter). I do find it funny that you, instead of trying to perhaps improve this article, so viehemently want to have it deleted. Yet, you seem to have no problems with similar articles like Leslie Knope or Richard Castle or Kate Beckett or Demetri Noh - all protagonists from 2009-debuting TV shows, all with their very own Wikipedia articles. So, that's the only conclusion I can come to, you see, that you have something against this particular show. Also, again, I did't appreciate the immediate AfD nomination, especially after you had just added a prod tag and neglected to contact me, the article's creator, first. I would have agreed to merge this article into a list of character in the first place. With that said, I am done with trying to save this article for now but, from one long-time WP editor to another, I really don't think that you handled this in the most appropriate way. aNubiSIII ( T /  C ) 05:56, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Concerning your Edit of Star Dreadnought Entry
As the star dreadnought is described as simply being a large battleship in the Imperial Navy, I think that it is important to clarify the separate classes under the designation. The Executor was not the only star dreadnought class in existence, and you admit this in the article. Included in this were the Sovereign-class and the Eclipse-class. Requesting update of classification on page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.205.194.31 (talk) 20:10, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


 * See the Other types section at the bottom of the article. --EEMIV (talk) 21:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

TFU2 Characters
I just noticed the messages from you and Thejadefalcon. I'm sorry, I thought you were trolling me. I removed the speculative edits. Again, sorry. I'll look at those policies you sent me. -- Rhikter  21:19, 13 December 2009 (UTC)