User talk:ElectricTurahk

Re: Dome vs. Cavern
I used the word "cavern" in describing the Pit because I felt it was a quick and easy way to explain to newcomers that it was underground, as opposed to being an above-ground structure. By stating upfront that it was underground, not as much time would have to be spent explaining how it could reasonably be flooded by the sea. "Dome" and "cavern" are both legitimate descriptions of the Pit, and while the first is more commonly used I felt the second was more descriptive in this case (and I did keep the word "dome" when it was used in the following paragraph). Drakhan 06:34, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: BoM Mutants
I removed the mutant Rahi from the BoM article because I didn't think they were notable, especially as Greg stated the BoM created almost all Rahi to begin with. Half of them (Kinloka, Rahkshi-Headed Serpent, Tarakava Nui, and Vatuka) were already covered in the Rahi article; and the rest were just wierd beasts for the Toa Metru to encounter as opposed to parts of big Brotherhood plots. I wouldn't mind if notes were made in the Rahi article (like adding a sentence under Tarakava: "A two-headed specimen was found and placed deep in the Archives" or something like that) but I don't think that the BoM article is quite the right place for that info. If you really think it does belong there, we can talk it over. Drakhan 23:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Toa Mario
I'd recommend you ignore him. He's obviously created multiple sockpuppets to evade his block and push his point of view on the Collis Potter Huntington article. Even if he's doing it from a different IP address, its still sockpuppetry. He's been abusive and is clearly intend on damaging Wikipedia. Gwernol 19:26, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Hydraxon Image
Greetings, ET. I think that the OoMN page should have a pic of Hydraxon in it by now, and I'm not very good with images. So if you have any experience with pics, do you think you could (legally) track down a pic of him for the page? I'm well aware that you might not be able to, but just in case I figured it might be a good idea to see if you could. ( And on a side note, I removed that image of the Toa Mahri because it doesn't have a copyright tag.) -- -- Gravitan 17:30, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It wasn't until you said the "legally" that I grew concerned. I know exactly how to update images; I've done it plenty of times on BS01.  Though they aren't strict there with iamge policy.  I've uploaded one now (see Image:OoMNHydraxon.jpg), but I don't know any of the copyright info that should be there... ElectricTurahk 20:17, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Splendid, thanks ET. Though I'm not sure what we should do about the copyright info; you might try asking Drakhan, I think he would probably know. And thanks again for your help with that. :) -- -- Gravitan 21:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I assume this is from Lego Shop at Home (or at least, some other commercial site)? The first thing you'll need is a "promotional" tag, identifying the picture as being freely distributed to promote a product. All you have to type is {promotional} (though with two sets of curly brackets instead of one). Then put a link to the site where you found the image, and add a standard copyright line noting who the character legally belongs to - just copy and paste this: "© 2007 The LEGO Group. All rights reserved." Drakhan 00:19, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Bionicle
Hi -- just to let you know I removed your FA nomination of "Bionicle" from the Herne Bay nomination where you placed it. There were two problems -- first, it shouldn't go inside another nomination; it needs to use the featured article candidates template. Second, it should go at the top of the list.

I could add it back for you, but you might prefer to do so yourself, so I haven't done so yet. (Aside from anything else, List of Wikipedians by featured article nominations gives credit to the nominator, so you should get the credit.) The instructions are at the top of WP:FAC, and are fairly straightforward. Let me know if you have any trouble, or ask at WT:FAC if you prefer. Hope that helps. Mike Christie (talk) 11:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Fair use gallery
See Talk:Toa. Continuing to violate the nonfree images policy in this manner may lead to a block, and that would be bad - David Gerard 21:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You've also just broken WP:3RR. Please take care not to - David Gerard 21:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Like to know
I would like to know why you keep taking the pictures away on the article called toa. tell me why on my talk page.Swirlex 21:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

BL#7
Greetings, ET. I think it would be wise to just let alone the BL#7 spoilers; Drakhan says that it would be best that way. If somebody removes the spoiler tags regarding that book, just let them be. As you probably know, I tried using future tags, but that didn't get anywhere, seeing as BL#7 is already out. The condition of the Bionicle pages these days is just plain depressing. We've had all of our spoiler tags and a lot of our images removed. But I really don't understand why they have to pick on us all of a sudden. Anyway, as I said, we should just give up on this whole spoiler thing; we are vastly outnumbered. -- -- Gravitan 11:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Hold on; I think we might have something here. On this page. If we can play this right, then we might just be able to get the tags back. -- -- Gravitan 11:41, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: BS01
Well, Shine thought that the other one was better for some reason. I'll see what I can do about it. -- -- Gravitan 17:30, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Hello
You're very welcome ^^ I'm starting to believe this is a hostile takeover by a small group who happened to remove an amazing 45,000 tags then claim that they have the consensus. Kuronue 00:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Exactly! I suspect they managed to catch the majority of editors sleeping and blindside them. Who actually pays attention to the spoiler guidelines until someone tells them they did it wrong? It's pretty much assumed it hasn't changed because who bothers to check? then they wake up one day and notice "oh, removed per WP:SPOIL? huh, musta changed the guideline" and then go back to bed. Kuronue 02:36, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Gnangarra
Please leave other editors comments on my talk page if they arent hostile and very uncivil, I've been around long enough now to be able to judge when another editor isnt WP:AGF. If you'd like to send me an email about the other editor please do. Gnangarra 01:26, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Language
ElectricTurahk, in many of your posts I've been noticing a tone of general disrespect towards others, sometimes including foul language. Please keep in mind that even if they disagree with us on things; we are trying to work with them, not against them. They're not trying to make life difficult for us, they're just trying to follow the rules and (particularly in the case of the pictures) keep their butts covered legally, and we need to respect that. Drakhan 18:44, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

P.S. On a friendlier note, I followed the Neopets link in your bio and saw that you're a Krawk Island supporter in the Altador Cup. I'm backing Darigan, and look forward to the grudge match.

Real information
What i edited on the visorak wikipedia page is real information it even says it in the book bionicle Rahi encyclopedia. It is real.Swirlex 22:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Reward
Hey ElectricTurahk, Nice tab trick. Here's your reward.

Congratulations! selfworm Talk ) 02:33, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Warriors
Great job on the warriors page! I'm glad you went ahead and that you were bold abut it, so without further ado...

Brackenfur
Looks like we had a bit of work overlap going on. The article was an orphan when I found it, with nothing linking to it. So I did a search and created the appropriate links. At the same time it was turned into a redirect. And so it goes. Thanks for the heads up! -- MisterHand 21:07, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: warning
sorry. I didnt know putting that sentence on was going to be vandalism. people do compare carapar's name with crapper, I was just putting that fact on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hyuuga-sama (talk • contribs)

Sorry about that last message
I clicked the wrong name and thought I was warning a vandal. My bad :-)

Cheers, — Curran  (talk 17:56, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:Dude
Lol, no, I'm not stalking you. I just have this habit of checking people's contributions, which leads me to certain pages which I don't know much about. I find that you're very useful for finding places to leave warnings. :P I just love those templates... And I editied that page 'cause I thought I saw a misplaced period. And I was also really really bored. :P Last night, you even beat me to reverting those "Book mistake" edits by that IP. I don't know anything about Warriors, but I do know what makes an article tick. So anyway, I jus' check your contribs once in a while for anything interesting. Let me know if you'd like me to stop; wouldn't want to make ya feel like you really are being stalked. It's just that my WikiJe... On second thought, better not get into that right now. :P --  Gravitan ( Talk 12:01, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:Block
I'm not happy with blocking those IPs - they looks like they're fairly dynamic. In other words, the user's IP seems to change regularly and there's no guarantee he'll go back to using an IP he's used before (but it may affect legitimate future users who "inherit" the IP address). Instead, I would be willing to semi-protect your userpage so that IPs and new accounts cannot edit it. Let me know if you'd like me to do that. WjBscribe 17:27, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Why
Can you tell me why every bionicle picture is being takin away all of a sudden?Swirlex 00:10, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes the admins are a bit strange I see and understand why the images are being taken away.Swirlex 01:16, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * EletricTurahk, I saw this and wanted to take the opportunity to comment.
 * Many companies produce imagery for various marketing campaigns. Simply because these images are part of advertising does not in any way mean they are in the public domain. Creators of original works have copyrights to the works they create. Even if they display the work, reproduce it, or distribute it they can and almost always do maintain their rights to the work. Else, the first time people sold a product they'd lose all rights to it and everyone would be free to copy it without cost.
 * As an aside, public domain images do not have to be used under terms of fair use. Fair use is a legal term in the United States, similar to the fair dealing concept in many other countries. It applies only to copyrighted works, and never to public domain works.
 * Wikipedia strives to have only free content. That means copyrighted content is discouraged in favor of free content. Even if the free content is of lesser quality, the free content will always be used. You might find this stupid, or any other negative word you wish to associate with that philosophy. However, this is a core philosophy of Wikipedia and will not change. We are a free content encyclopedia, and that will remain the case forever.
 * I hope this helps to explain. If you'd like assistance in understanding this further, please feel free to ask. Thanks, --Durin 14:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

BS01
The BS01 is back up. Go see for yourself. Gonna need some help over there. --  Gravitan ( Talk 12:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, sort of. --  Gravitan ( Talk 12:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's kinda how I feel. Probably best to just wait and see if they really did have things backed up. But if they didn't... --  Gravitan ( Talk 12:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You're right, better to wait for an answer. But I hope that they have the pages saved. And the images. And the coding. And the settings... *sigh* --  Gravitan ( Talk 13:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Profanity
What's up with this edit summary? I restored your wording. It was Supernerd 10 who replaced the "nasty words". ;) I even left a note on his talk page about it. --  Gravitan ( Talk 22:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Excuses, excuses. :P I can see why you were confused. And you did the right thing. Users aren't supposed to edit other users' comments unless the comments happen to be blatent spam or vandalism. Yours wasn't. --  Gravitan ( Talk 22:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

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Re:Bioconvoy
Whatever you say. He was kinda freakin' me out there. :P --  Gravitan ( Talk 21:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Into the Wild (Warriors)
User:Metros has done this. I would understand and wholeheartedly agree with the edit if it were not for the fact that I had made the same edit and you said you had the proof that Rusty was the cat on the cover. If that proof could be put on the talk page or something just so we can keep that description in the article that would be great. Bella  Swan (Talk!)  23:35, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Leaving?
Why are you leaving? Crowstar Vaseline-on-the-lens-Jitsu!fwends! 11:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Sloe
I saw this edit summary. A Sloe is a blackthorn. I seriously don't know why they gave that name, because 85% of the readers wouldn't know what it was. Crowstar Vaseline-on-the-lens-Jitsu!fwends! 19:42, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Lol, I think it should be more like 99% of readers. Thanks for tellin' me, by the way.  I actually didn't even think of looking that up. XD --~|ET|~ (Talk) 19:44, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

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Translation request
Hello!

You asked if anyone could translate the following: dorka ukko säkin oot Vittu säkin oot vaan yksi saatann tyhmä pelle ja luulet olevas jotain suurtaki, which is indeed Finnish slang of Helsinki region. The wording is somewhat unnatural, the clause has no punctuation and even as a straightforward transcription of the spoken Finnish, it includes a typo (saatann pro 'saatanan'').

The literal translation is: "A stupid man, you are, too! Fuck! You are, too, just one of Satan's stupid clown and you think you're something big." A better translation would carry the meaning more completely.

Please do not consider this posting an insult. --MPorciusCato 18:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Protection
Out of curiosity, why is your userpage protected?--Supernerd 10 21:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Civility on List of ThunderClan Cats
Hi, ET. I know that you are highly involved in the "The Warriors" project, but it is (IMO) not at all civil to leave, as an edit summary, "HELL FUCKING NO! Nowhere was this discussed. THINGS STAY AS IS. It's more organized this way anyways." Please don't bite someone for trying to be bold and fix an article whose scope has (again, IMO) gotten completely out of control. I've tried to encourage paring down the article through the in-universe tag, but I was quickly flooded with people accusing me of closed-mindedness and ignorance before the discussion ended without consequence and the tag removed. Either way, User:Minesweeper.007 seemed to be acting in good faith and should not be confronted with incivility for trying to improve the project. Thank you for your time, bwowen talk•contribs 23:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * And I already apologized to him for that. Yes, it was uncalled for, and I realize that - I acted without proper reasoning.  And though, yes, he was bold, such a large move was not discussed at all, and I viewed it as an unnecessary change (I thought of it as similar to splitting the Akatsuki (Naruto) page into the original page and the members page...  In the end, the pages were remerged.  They were just better off on one page, in my opinion.  And I vew that as being the same way here - for the Clans, page that is.  Obviously, the character pages are a tad different, but to organize them by series would create a massive list.)
 * And, by the way, I've been thinking about that whole in-universe thing. Now, I think you're write in some respects...  Methinks you (or we) should try again to fix it up a bit... With some civil discussion, of course. --~|ET|~ (Talk) 23:54, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi ET. It was my mistake for not checking Mine's talk page before commenting on you, and for that I apologize - all I saw was the edit summary and I, like you, reacted strongly. Anywho, I'm glad that you're up for having another look at the article and trying to pare it down to a more manageable size. Check out WP:WAF, and I'll start a discussion again on the talk page. Thanks again for your passion for the project - just remember to try to stay cool! =] Best wishes, bwowen talk•contribs 01:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

RE:Warriors
We did talk about it several months ago, I just now got around to cleaning it up. I'm sorry for not alerting anyone as to my intentions. I also thought that a page that was over 200 something Kilobytes was a little long so I was shortening it. I deserved the rebuke for moving mass sections of the article without community discussion. TTYL, 15:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Warriors Covers
Nice work on the covers, but how long will it stay before A CERTAIN SOMEONE reverts it? only time will tell... DAVID CAT 22:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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Quote
Nice ET I can so picture that. The name removed person is so funny in that scene. Great Being 1 03:18, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Who wrote what
Try here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Hunter ClawClaw 20:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I think I know a good source just give me a second to try and find it... ClawClaw 20:10, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Here: http://www.theguttersnipe.co.uk/ if you go to FAQs under Warriors one of the questions asks her which books she wrote. You can find out the ones Cherith wrote are all the ones Kate mentioned. I know thta' original research but I'm sure there's someplace somewhere that states which books Cherith wrote in case someone decides to get angry 0_o ClawClaw 20:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

SkyClan Characters
If you consider Cherrytail a main character why not Sparrowpelt? They are siblings and were in the book at the same time. If you can give me a good reason why he is not and that's not just your opinion then you can switch him back to Secondary characters but just because he doesn't 'feel' like a main character isn't good enough. ClawClaw 16:17, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Protection Question
To remove individual edit links (section editing), use  . It's a magic word. Cheers. --MZMcBride 01:11, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Will You?
I noticed you have been involved with a lot of Warrior Cats projects, and was wondering: Would you like to join the Warriors Wikia? Let me know at my talk page(Eulalia459678) on The Warriors Wiki. Thank you SO much for your time! Eulalia459678 of the WarriorsWiki —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.1.217.113 (talk) 20:11, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

WarriorsWiki
Thanks for replying, and I hope you help out! Eulalia459678 (Thats pronounced you-lay-lee-ahh, with a nice long ahhhhh) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.1.217.113 (talk) 21:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

FYI
I only put how it was pronounced because it is one of my favorite Redwall quotes. My favorite Warriors quote is from Graystripe: "Well I stalk like a lopsided badger!  I'll have to find a stupid mouse and sit on it until it lets me catch it." Followed by Yellowfang stating about Runningnose: "He became medicine cat? He can't even cure his onw cold!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.1.217.113 (talk) 00:34, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Eclipse (Warriors)
The article was not acceptable for speedy deletion as it asserts notability per WP:CSD. Admitedly it probably fails WP:CRYSTAL and WP:OR but these are not acceptable reasons to speedy delete. I'd take it to WP:AFD if I were you. Let me know if you want any help on that. Pedro : Chat  10:22, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

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Cats of the Clans
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Language

 * What the hell! God dammit, I'm not gonna go help there.  If they lost everything, bah.  Swert said they were backing things up. --~|ET|~

E.T. I didn't think you used such language. -<font color="#800080">Kazi22 <font color="#800080">Talk 22 March 2008
 * :O ET, those are some strong words. o_O -Danwojo812 - My Talk

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