User talk:EncyMind

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Hello, EncyMind, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! Truthkeeper88 (talk) 19:28, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, Truthkeeper. Thank you for welcoming me and providing me with newbie information. I'm not sure I have figured out the Uster talk function. So, this is a test of the emergency broadcasting system. EncyMind (talk) 13:26, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Your test worked fine. I have your page watched so I can see when you add to it. I hate to do this to you, but we have some kind of a policy about not adding too many images to a page (I'll have to find it, can't think off the top of my head where it is), so you might want to think about whether or which any of the images in Emily Bronte you can do without. The best thing to do might be to spread them out in different pages, and shrink them a bit. I can help with formatting. By the way, I have that page on my watchlist, so that's how I know about the changes. If you respond here, I'll reply to you. I'll be in and out today, so replies are not always speedy. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 14:02, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Truthkeeper. I'm quite the Emily Bronte fan and have been to Haworth. I understand what you are saying about the images, which is why I've been working on learning the formatting - so images don't stack, etc. Here's the deal: Haworth is off the beaten path for many people. Many devout fans of Wuthering Heights never get to Haworth, never see the moors or the town in which they lived, so can only imagine how "place" impacted the writing of the Bronte sisters. Wikipedia is usually the first stop for anyone doing online research. Few will find their way to Wikimedia Commons, where these images are stored. Everything that is on the Emily Bronte page is actually important to understanding Emily Bronte's work. Give me some time to work on the text itself, particularly about her relationship with her brother, Branwell. That's why I included the Black Bull pub. You'll see me venturing over to Branwell's entry and some others.

I'm a scholar, and well educated. I have an impressive Emily Bronte library myself. Let me track down references online, clean up what's already on the entry, and let's revisit the image issue. Okay? :-)

EncyMind (talk) 14:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Quite honestly, I've been there too and have enjoyed watching you work. I just wanted to mention, but I wasn't seeing anything that can't be fixed, as you say. I have the page watched because  I've been intending to work on it, but there's always something else, so am absolutely thrilled to see it get attention. If you do have questions about formatting, referencing in wiki style (personally after many experiments I've decided to hand format according to MLA style), please don't hesitate to post here, on my page, or on the Bronte page. Also, your work made me think that subarticles can be created as well. You might have a look at the template all the way at the bottom of Jane Austen to see how articles can be split out. I haven't myself worked on the Austen material, but it's very well done. Anyway, good luck. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 15:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Bronte images
I will take a look at the Jane Austen page later.

I'm finding my biggest problem is dealing with that darned "Poetry Portal" icon and link, and that there isn't enough text yet to make the margin on the lower half even. If you know how to force a margin or divide a bibliography into two columns, please let me know. I haven't been able to find that in the help file. I did split the Notes section into 2 columns, and will add more columns, if needed, as I add references.

I designed webpages in a previous incarnation, but it has been at least 5 years since I've done anything, so I am refreshing my memory. While I'm not fully adjusted yet to Wikipedia, I do know a fair amount about HTML. I just need some time to play around, look at well done pages to snag code, and figure out what works best for the pages I'm working on. I'm working on Anne Rice's page too and will be working on Eleanor Roosevelt's page in the near future (those images are a mess!).

I will review everything you suggested and really appreciate your advice. I'm a hands on learner, but got stuck a few times and really wish you were there then!

I stayed at the Black Bull and befriended a local woman who lived there. We corresponded for many years until she died. I read my set of encyclopedias cover to cover repeatedly when I was a child. The photographs transported me to other worlds. Images are important. I think those of us who have experienced these places owe it to others who have not to give them the experience or encourage them to go for it themselves. I'm obsessive about how images and text are placed. This is a work in progress, but we'll have something beautiful when it's done. . . and we're a long way from that.

If you have any problems with your own formatting, etc., send me a note. I'm good at figuring out how things work.

EncyMind (talk) 15:46, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Some of the best images are done by the editors who work on the visual arts pages. With a few other editors, I'm in the process of gearing up to rewrite Vincent van Gogh. Have a look at how the images are formatted there; there's some fancy mark-up that can be used. I like to see pictures too and am very picky about formatting on a page. I'll have a look at the poetry portal link - it should be in the See Also section, and sometimes there isn't enough text so those portals overlap the next section. If it's any consolation - I spent an entire summer learning wiki mark-up and page design. The only way is to experiment. You can set your own WP:Subpages and sandboxes too, for experimentation. I found that to be helpful. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 16:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

EncyMind (talk) 16:30, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * That Van Gogh page is excellent. I tried to play with the horizontal images on Rice's page, but they didn't work there with the content that currently exists.  I've slowly been working on the "Personal" category - what a mess her entry is.  I'm working on images first on my initial Wikipedia entries, cleaning up references, and researching "facts" I know not to be true.  This is only my first week.

I'll study that markup help file. It's exactly what I needed. Thank you very much for hopping in to help me. EncyMind (talk) 16:30, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

EncyMind (talk) 16:50, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Check out what's going on in the "Further Reading" section. Is there a quick fix for that margin issue?  I don't have time now to read through the mark-up help file.  I wasn't sure about the thumb, etc., but used it because I was lifting the code from the help file.  EncyMind (talk) 16:50, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Some of the problems are browser specific. The further reading looks fine to me, but the section isn't really necessary. Wikipedia isn't a library and for literature I always think the further reading sections are subjective, so I don't think anyone would complain if you deleted it completely. I'll be gone for a while ... Truthkeeper88 (talk) 16:56, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

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 * Thanks. I do know to do that, but I'm in a royal snit about a user sabotaging my work.  In the heat of the moment, I sometimes forget, but quickly edit to put it in.  EncyMind (talk) 21:59, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

June 2011
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Anne Rice. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. MikeWazowski (talk) 14:25, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello, EncyMind. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. MikeWazowski (talk) 14:36, 29 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Please cease and desist from vandalizing my work, engaging in non-neutral gender bias, and STOP STALKING ME. I have called legal counsel of Wikimedia Foundation to review your behavior. EncyMind (talk) 18:25, 29 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Add the ACLU. We're going to deal with this Wikipedia gender bias issue now.  Mind your p's and q's, Game Boy.


 * Hi EncyMind, you might want to read No legal threats. It's not a good idea. There are other recourses for dispute resolution. The first place to start is to discuss on the talk page. I've opened a thread on the Talk:Emily Brontë talkpage for discussion. Frankly I don't think this has anything to do with gender bias. I'm a woman, btw. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 18:43, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I've also opened a discussion at Talk:Anne Rice. The best thing to do is to achieve a compromise and consensus for a change. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 18:53, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Legal threats from EncyMind. Thank you. MikeWazowski (talk) 19:34, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for making legal threats or taking legal action. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia while the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved. DMacks (talk) 19:36, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Two pieces of advice:
 * 1) If and when you retract your threat of legal action and are unblocked, consider dealing with other editors who you disagree with as though they are acting in good faith, and be civil to them. In my experience editors who do so stand a far better chance of getting something approaching what they want than those who come here with a battleground mentality and try to browbeat other editors into submission. View other editors as people who are collaborating in the same project as you, and who may be willing to consider your point of view, rather than as evil enemies who have to be fought against and defeated.
 * 2) You may consider that the legal action which you suggest you may take could stand a better chance of success if you approach other editors more diplomatically. Since you say that you are a lawyer, you will no doubt be well aware that judges tend to have more sympathy from litigants whose first approach was conciliatory, rather than threatening. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)