User talk:Everything Else Is Taken

Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 20:11, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Help re. overwhelmed
Hello, Rd232. I'm pretty overwhelmed, just trying to figure out how to respond to you! I read somewhere that I should respond below the original message, which makes good sense to me, but I don't know html well enough to know where, exactly, your message ends in the code below. I went to your talk page, but read that I should come back here to respond.

Thanks for your message; I do have a particular question that pushed me to try to get back to you: I keep reading how important it is to fill in the edit summary, when editing a page, and the more detailed the summary, the better. However, the only edits I do are grammar, punctuation, spelling, clarity, things like that, and they are very tedious to enumerate, and trying to summarize such edits just doesn't work for me, generally. I want to keep contributing, and often read articles that need bits of my kind of clean-up, but I find that it's not worth it, if I have to choose between filling in the edit summary (except for very briefly), and neglecting the edit summary but feeling uncooperative. Can you advise me? Would the community in general prefer that I edit without much explanation, or not edit? Part of my lack of motivation relates to the fact that I can click on a link and see, highlighted, side by side, the changes I've made. Can't anyone else do that as well for my edits? That seems like a much quicker and easier way than reading a prose rendition to see what I've done. Thanks!


 * Hi there! Great username, by the way!


 * I know it can seem overwhelming at first, but help is at hand.


 * When you leave a message like this one, you should add it on the end of the talk page. Also, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time. You can also do this by clicking the 'sign' button, pictured here.


 * Edit summaries are important, so that others can see what you've done. For a minor edit, you should still put one - but, if it is just spelling, then just "sp" is fine. Or "copyedit" or "grammar" - just that. Yes, they can click on the diff to see what you changed - which is why a brief summary is OK, but when looking through an article history with many edits, it is much easier to identify the good ones and check out vandalism if there is some comment saying what it was all about, without going into that specific diff. Hope that makes sense.


 * By the way, for an easy way of finding articles with those types of issue, see Cleanup.


 * For more help, you can either;


 * Leave a message on my own talk page;
 * Use a - please create a new section at the end of your own talk page, put , and ask your question - remember to 'sign' your name by putting ~ at the end;
 * Talk to us live, with this or this.


 * The last of those is particularly useful - please try it; pop in now and say hello.


 * Best wishes,  Chzz  ►  20:31, 25 March 2010 (UTC)


 * To reply to a message - Just go to the end of the message, add a new line, then (ideally) start your reply with a colon, that will indent the whole paragraph (and start on a new line) - never use a leading space at the start of a paragraph - you get an odd effect.
 * Edit summaries are looked at by the vandal fighters (asking themselves question why has he changed that?), vandals will often leave the summary blank. Most editors prefer a filled in summary. If it's just a spelling error then personally I just put "spell" in the summary.
 * While mentioning spelling, please remember with spelling to watch out for the English/American/others spelling differences, which often catches out new editors - change to the wrong one, and some one will revert it... Have a look at WP:ENGVAR and associated links, the usual culprits I see are -ise (UK) / -ize (US); -our (UK) / -or (US) e.g. colour, neighbour; also aluminium (Wikipedia uses the IUPAC name for the element) is a problem for US editors  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:38, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Good job on the HP edits!
Hi, Everything Else Is Taken!

I know you've already been officially welcomed, but I just wanted to add my own word of welcome. I've noticed your copyedits to the Harry Potter movie pages, and every time, I think they made the text flow much better, as well as adding clarity and accuracy.

So, I just wanted you to know that your contributions have been appreciated...keep up the good work! Princess Lirin (talk) 23:13, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I just removed an irrelevant bit from a page, but it was referenced. How do I remove the footnote without screwing up footnote numbering? Is that automated? Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 15:45, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * In this case, it looks to me as though the footnote still applies to the text that is left, so you don't need to do any more. Generally, if you remove a piece of text which is followed by an in-line reference between markers, and you remove the in-line reference as well, then the footnote will sort itself out automatically. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:49, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * On most pages and remove that. Let me know if you need more help. (FYI, adding tlp tells us you don't need help anymore. We'll take care of that for you.) -- &#47; MWOAP &#124; Notify Me &#92; 15:52, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, JohnCD! That does answer my question.  But I still have an issue:  I disagree that the reference is still relevant; it's to a page of FAQs, where the reader can learn the definition of a lifetime membership of an organization, not check the fact of the author's membership.  Isn't that too far off topic?  I'm prepared to be wrong about this, but I want to double-check.
 * Thanks also, Notify Me, for the note about tlp, and for inserting it. I'm taking it away again, since now I'm looking for another response. :^) Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 16:03, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree, I don't think that reference is relevant. If you delete from, you'll find it will vanish from the list of footnotes, and the rest will renumber automatically. Use "Show preview" to check that you have the effect you want. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:08, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 17:10, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Discussion pages
help me

I have just seen a suspicious thing (looks like vandalism) on a page that hasn't seen much activity. I'm not sure it is vandalism, though, and want to bring it up on the discussion page. I'm afraid, however, since the page sees so little activity, that no one will notice, and my question will go unanswered. What's the best way to make sure that won't happen?

Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 16:14, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * If you think you've spotted some vandalism the simplest way to respond to it would be by removing it, see Vandalism for more information. Though while I'm here, which is the page in question? Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 16:28, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't want to just make a change, when I'm not sure it's vandalism, which is why I wanted to bring it to the attention of others, who might know better. The article in question is Dean Morgan Junior High School.  The issue is the line at the bottom that says, "Dean Morgan is run by many princables."  Sure as I just remove it, it'll turn out to be a witticism endorsed by the school.  Do you have an opinion?
 * However, I still have the same question, because it comes up from time to time: I want to ask a question on a talk page, but am afraid it'll languish.  In that case, should I just ask my question here on my own page, with a "help me" tag?
 * Thanks!
 * Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 16:37, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * A good rule to go by is: If in doubt take/leave it out especially if said content is unsourced or potentially unencyclopedic. I had a look at the page and it may have been a test edit made by an IP. If you find stray bits of information like this in articles that are unsourced feel free to remove them, as one of our core content policies states: The threshold for inclusion is verifiability not truth. I've removed the content from the Dean Morgan Junior High School page as apart from the information being astray, it required clarification and sourcing. Thanks for letting me know about this. If you have any further questions regarding vandalism or any of our policies here on Wikipedia feel free to leave me a note on my talk page. Cheers, Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 17:00, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks again, Jeffrey!Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 17:03, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

OK, so I'm back to my original question: I have found the link that shows how many watchers a page has. Particularly if there are no watchers for a page, why would I expect that anyone would notice a question I leave on a discussion page? Should I add a "help me" tag to that discussion page, or should I ask it here on my talk page? Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 17:07, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The tag is intended to use on your talk page, so please don't use it on an article discussion page.  If you think asking a question on an article talk page isn't enough, there are other options.  You could try Help desk for general questions.  For more specific questions, there are a lot of noticeboards at Noticeboards for help with a specific topic or area.  Using one of these options will get the attention of more users.  Please let me know if there are any more questions.  Thanks!  --Mysdaao talk 17:15, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

My edits don't always show up on a page's history, or on my watchlist . ..
. . . which is confusing. I don't think it's about edits being hidden; minor edits appear, as well as some of my edits, and all the options above the list offer the option to "hide," not "show." It's not due to the time period I've selected to be shown. It's frustrating, because often I put a page on my watchlist so that I will notice and learn, if my edits provoke some editorial response, and I wonder what else I'm not seeing. Can anyone help me understand?

Thanks. --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 13:29, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you sure you actually made the edits? Did the page you think you edited actually change? Also, under the default settings, only the last edit for each page shows in your watchlist (but all edits are always shown in page histories). Do you have an example of an edit you made but can't find now? Svick (talk) 14:38, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Svick. I'm pretty sure my edits have always gone through, but I'll start double-checking.  I didn't realize that only the last edit shows up on the watchlist, and that surely explains some of my confusion.  I don't currently have an example of an edit I'd made but then couldn't find, but, next time it happens, I will ask about it right away.  Thanks again!  --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 01:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Edits should show on the history page. Make sure you are not confusing the article history page and not the talk page history page. Also you can click "My contributions" in the upper right corner of every page (after you've logged in) and see all of your edits since you started on Wiki. Cheers!-- — Keithbob • Talk  • 18:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

My revision undone
help me

I see that a revision I did yesterday (Dixie Chicks article) was undone today, with the edit summary saying that the links I left did not link properly. But they link properly for me! Would somebody confident and experienced please take a look and advise me? I think the revision was worthwhile, because the sentence was previously (and is now, again) ungrammatical and awkward. Thanks! -- Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 13:46, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi again. As clarification for the user's edit summary, the user who reverted the edit in question, User:Wasted Time R did so with the rationale that the link piping that you performed (i.e ) was inappropriate for this particular section of the article as it prevented readers of the article from knowing the link's destination short of physically hovering over the link. Further reading: Piped link Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) -  14:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Jeffrey. I've read the piped link page, and I think I understand. --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 14:39, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Date formats
Please read WP:DATE before changing date formats. You didn't violate policy at SpaceX, but it is generally accepted procedure for topics that are primarily American to have American date formatting, such as January 1, 2010. If primarily British, use the British format. Thanks. 71.77.20.119 (talk) 15:28, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I was going by the convention of using either the first format encountered or the one most commonly used within the article (a habit left over from my copy editor days) -- both of which led me to the format I used -- but if I see inconsistent dates in the future, I will bear in mind the American v. British convention.  --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 20:47, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Tea Time
Thanks for your thoughtful comments on the Peter Schiff and Mary Kay Letourneau talk pages. I'm sure you have noticed that most Wiki editors are pretty helpful to newcomers and you can add me to the list. My talk page is open to you User talk:Keithbob should you have any 'how to' questions. There is also a mentor program WP:MENTOR in case your interested. Cheers!-- — Keithbob • Talk  • 19:02, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Keithbob! What a lovely thing to find on my talk page.  I am at this very moment enjoying a nice cup of Earl Grey in celebration.
 * I am especially grateful, because these were my first forays into chiming in on Wiki discussions (unless I've forgotten something). It feels risky to jump in, when I haven't been there from the start.  I think that, before commenting, lest I just muddy the waters through insufficient understanding, I should read every relevant diff, post, everything, but I just don't think that's always feasible.  I guess in every case there's a balance to seek.
 * The timing of your gesture was particularly good too; I spent much of yesterday perusing pages on requests for comment, dispute resolution, mediation, arbitration, etc., and lots of linked talk pages. Lots of contention!  So I was feeling pretty droopy.  I am very interested in mediation, but also I was reading to learn how to do Wiki things well.  It seems that there are lots of ways to step on toes, and lots of toes to be stepped on.  I much prefer learning vicariously, rather than first-hand, about stuff like that.
 * I've thought about seeking a mentor. Partly, I'm shy; partly, I'm afraid to commit.  That is, I haven't been sure how steady a contributor I'd be, and I didn't want to begin a relationship and then just disappear.  I'm still pondering.
 * So. Cheers! I'm off to your talk page to ask a question. --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 13:35, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You are a good editor and learning fast. If you want I can help you. No committment! :-) Regarding the sock puppet signature on the Peter Schiff page. That is very strange. The message you refer to was placed there by a Wiki computer bot, which is normal when someone forgets to sign their comment. The bot ID's the commenter's IP address and then signs the editor's name automatically. But it's not fool proof as you can see. Generally its not cool to erase things from the public talk pages, so I suggest you make an entry just below or after the bot's signature and state that the above comment is yours and not that sock puppet. As far as reporting the sock, it's not necessary as he is monitored automatically by the computer. There is a lot to learn on Wiki. I learn something new everyday even after two years and 10,000 edits. But what I do know I'm happy to share. Welcome to the Wiki family.-- — Keithbob • Talk  • 14:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, you lead an exciting Wiki life! :-) Just leave a note for the Administrator here and explain who you are and what you want to do and ask his advice how to proceed. He is the one that put the notice there. And don't worry, all mistakes on Wiki can be fixed.-- — Keithbob •  Talk  • 15:05, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do feel a bit breathless.
 * I'm not sure which thing you were recommending me to Redvers for -- the sock contribution or the suddenly disappeared page. I went to him over the sock contribution.  By the way, it wasn't that my comment was misattributed, so no worries there; it was another comment below mine that was apparently that of a sock puppet.
 * This page is mysteriously back, with no record I can see of having been deleted (or restored). Oy.  I swear I saw a notice, when I tried to get here a little while ago, that there was no such page.  But I'm just gonna let that experience slide on by. --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 15:47, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry I was not clear. If you look on your User Page (not this page which is your User Talk page) you will see a notice signed by Rdevers regarding that page, on which you will want to place some info at some point and right now its a problem for you because its been deleted due to vandalism. Not sure what he will say about the sock thing. He will probably refer you somewhere else. I would suggest retracting that request as its a waste of time for both you and him to deal with in my opinion. -- — Keithbob • Talk  • 16:03, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Good point -- maybe I clicked on the link to my (nonexistent) user page, thinking I'd clicked on my talk. Maybe I saw the bit about vandalism, and lost all coherent thought.  I feel very strange that a page I hadn't yet created had to be deleted for vandalism.
 * Redvers was helpful on the other issue, though; I deleted the sock's comment with an appropriate edit summary, and learned that reporting was unnecessary. The issue itself might not have been worth the time (his time, anyway), but this is one of those things where it's worth it to me for the learning.
 * Thanks again for all this guidance! --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 16:15, 8 June 2010 (UTC)


 * We don't have to formalize the relationship with a name, but yes, I would be happy to continue to help you on an ongoing basis (until you get tired of me) :-)--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 16:47, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent! So:  I get confused about whose talk page to talk on.  When I have a question for you, should I post it here?  I don't want to clutter up yours.
 * If I disappear for a bit, I'll be taking a microWikibreak. My eyes are swimming, and my brain is getting sloshy.
 * Thanks! --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 17:07, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't mind you coming to my talk page. That's what its for. However I have your User Talk page on my watchlist so if I see your page on my watchlist I'll check here and see your question or message. Its' easier to keep the whole conversation on one page. If I don't respond, I'm either taking a few days off or just spaced out :-( so feel free to follow up with me on my page.Cheers!--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 19:12, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Copy edited a page needing ce -- now what?
I picked an article at random on the "Category: Wikipedia articles needing copy edit" page. I believe it no longer needs copy editing. Shall I remove the template from the top of the article page? Will removing the template wipe it off the category's list of pages needing ce? --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 00:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC) Yes and Yes.--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 14:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 15:01, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Howdy! Just checking in. I've been away for a few days.--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 17:30, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello. I too have been mostly away.  I've gotten bogged down in an article needing clean-up.  Ugh.  It's difficult, and I don't want to start anything else until I've done all I can do with it.  More than about one iron in the fire, and I get confused, but this is a heck of an iron.
 * Thanks for checking in. --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 16:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Plagiarism
I found a passage on Clarence Holiday that seemed to be plagiarised from another website (see Plagiarism section on Talk: Clarence Holiday). I treated it like any other edit, before it occurred to me to go read up on WP guidelines, and I regret it now, since I've read that plagiarism is a serious accusation, and we shouldn't be hasty. I have a couple of questions to start with:
 * How can I learn the copyright status of other websites? Is there a general rule that applies?
 * And how do I know whether the text was copied from the external site to WP, or vice-versa? I know how to check when a webpage was last modified, but I don't know how to learn when the particular text was uploaded.

Thanks. --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 16:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm no expert in this area but:
 * Websites usually have a Legend at the bottom of their pages to indicate that they are copyrighted. It may be something as simple as: © 2010 Ask.com
 * If the words are the same as another web site and the other web site does not indicate that the article appears courtesy of Wikipedia than you can be pretty sure it is plagiarism.
 * Its useful to contact the person who copied the text to kindly inform them about Wiki's plagiarism policy. This can be done by checking the recent edit history for the article. Use common sense to evaluate how much time and effort you spend on tracking down the editor who copied the text as it may have occurred a long time ago. The main thing is to correct it, protect Wiki and improve the article.--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 16:58, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Keithbob! --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 18:11, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

In the Red
Do you every wonder why your User Name or signature, appears in Red when everyone else has blue (or green for me)? It's because your User Page is blank. If you put some text (even one word) on your user page, your signature will turn to blue and you will blend in more if that is desirable to you. :-)--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 17:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I haven't created a user page because I really don't have anything to say for myself, other than what comes across here, or in my edits.  I'm not multilingual, or particularly gifted in any other way that is relevant to WP.  Red doesn't bother me.  But thanks for the heads-up. --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 18:14, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries, hope all is well.--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 00:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

AVG alert on Meher Baba page
When I opened the Meher Baba article, I got an AVG virus alert. I can't reproduce it, and I can't remember the wording exactly, but basically I was told that I'd been protected from some threat to my computer, from www.indiatime.com/favicon.ico -- maybe a link to that page. I cannot find that string on the edit page. I don't understand why the link would be nefarious. I'm not sure whether I should bring this to someone's attention. Help! Keithbob? Thanks. --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 13:50, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't have much to say on that. It has never happened to me on Wiki. Maybe it was your own internal personal virus protect software? Hard to say.--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 20:26, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * PS the Meher Baba article opened fine for me. :-) --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 20:27, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

You look hungry :-)
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Donation appeals
I donated money to the Wikimedia Foundation a couple of weeks ago, but I did it through my financial institution, not through the automated system offered with the appeal. Perhaps if I had donated through the WP site, I wouldn't still be getting appeals. Is there a way to get them to stop appearing? Anyone? Thanks. --Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 14:21, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Plagiarism
I noticed probable copyright infringement on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nezar_Hindawi. I made a note of it on the talk page, as directed on WP's Copyright Problems page, and I tried to follow the rest of the directions; I wanted to nominate the article for speedy deletion, and generate that notice to the plagiarist. But I got bogged down -- the directions were too complicated for me to follow -- and gave up.

Help?

Thanks.

For future reference, the plagiarism appeared with the first edit of 17 August 2011.

--Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 23:48, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Added to the top of the article for you.   Ron h jones  (Talk) 23:54, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * On second thoughts, I changed it to as there may be some old data that is useful.   Ron h jones  (Talk) 23:59, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Sole reference is a broken link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_Street_%28confection%29 has only one reference, which is a broken link. What should I do?

Thanks!

-- Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 00:19, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, first search for new references that are independent and reliable. If you can't find any and don't think that any exist, consider nominating the page for deletion. But try to improve the page first.  Howicus (talk) 20:50, 24 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Howicus. Will do. -- Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 21:01, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Concerned about suicide threat
Hello out there. I was just on another editor's talk page, and saw that a few hours ago someone posted three threats of suicide in succession. The person whose talk page it was and one other person responded, appropriately, it seems, but there has been no response since then from the depressed person. I'd like to post something supportive on the depressed person's talk page, but I'm afraid I'll risk making things worse by involving myself, given that I don't know WP procedures for this sort of thing.

Advice?

Thanks.

Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 19:41, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Please follow the instructions at Responding to threats of harm as quickly as possible. Please also contact me privately, if possible, with the username of the editor involved. You can contact me via email at gorillawarfarewikipedia@undefinedgmail.com – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:53, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, it would appear another user has already done this. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:57, 24 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, GorillaWarfare.


 * Following the Ignore All Rules suggestion on the WP threats of harm page, I wanted to post something supportive on the user's page. I see at the top of the page that s/he has been blocked.  Does that mean s/he can't read or post on his/her talk page? -- Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 20:02, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Blocked users are not prevented from reading any pages. The only page a blocked user can edit is his or her own user talk page (except under some circumstances, but those do not apply here). – GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:08, 24 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks yet again. I could've looked that up for myself, if I weren't so rattled, but I am rattled, and I'm grateful for the boost. -- Everything Else Is Taken (talk) 20:16, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Everything Else Is Taken you were right to be concerned. I contacted the Foundation as per Responding to threats of harm the moment the first threat of self-harm was posted on my talk page. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   01:02, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

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