User talk:Flamingoflorida

Flamingoflorida, I have restored the declined unblock request - those may not be removed while the block is active. See this information. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 14:07, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Hello
I want be completely open I have a conflict of interest agout the recanati family people keep adding information to those articles some of it is false and since I am blocked I have to use what you call sock puppet I don’t want to do any of that but the problem is that the information is damaging to living members of the family for example I tried today to fix the recanati winery this was delete from the talk page bec7i am a sock puppet my information is still relevant about my family as I know this information first hand and can show sources about them This is flamingo Florida the wiki link you added is a major problem Leon Recanati has 4 sons his son Daniel had a a son Leon Recanati his brother Jacques has a son Lenny Recanati he is the owner of recanati wine in the family you name your first son after your father https://mobile.nytimes.com/1997/03/05/classified/paid-notice-deaths-recanati-jacques.html This is the obit of Lenny father it says Lenny not Leon Lenny has the boat and apartment This is Leon recanati father https://www.geni.com/people/Daniel-Recanati/6000000008074925477 it is an easy mistake to make but one that has consequences as Lenny is a successful businessman and Leon is not so a mix up is extremely unfair to the 18 years of work Lenny has done with the winery Lenny official name is https://www.geni.com/people/Lenny-RECANATI/6000000009228928501 This is Leon recanati https://www.geni.com/people/Leon-Recanati/6000000007181527294 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.28.128.154 (talk) 02:56, 3 January 2018 (UTC) I wrote this in the talk it is relavant and well sourced unblock Flamingoflorida (talk) 04:15, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * If you want to be an editor, you need to fulfill the first requirement for a copy editor: the ability to write and spell in the English language. To wit, "I could like to talk with you about my actions and intentions I know for sure that the recanati winerywiki link is a grave error making Lenny Recanati to Leon they are 2 separate people I posted proof these are living people and making them into one penis a grave disservice to them whatever you think of me please fix this". A period concludes a sentence; a semicolon can be used to connect two closely-related thoughts. No one else discussed a phallus. I'm not sure why you chose to. I suggest you read and digest the Chicago Manual of Style (17th Edition) before you return to this forum. Or at least Strunk and White. Rhadow (talk) 14:44, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Flamingoflorida (talk) 04:18, 3 January 2018 (UTC)}}

See Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents. I've blocked socks, else I would decline this request myself. --Neil N  talk to me 04:56, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

This editor's analysis
Flamingoflorida is likely a member of the Recanati family. She is well acquainted with the family and passionate about correcting the errors she perceives. Her disambiguation of Lenny and Leon Recanti, cousins both named for grandfather Leon Yehuda Recanati is valuable. On the other hand, she has demonstrated limited ability to edit in accord with Wikipedia standards, including WP:MOS and WP:CITE. Her edits have exhibited an ongoing problem with WP:NPOV, for example her edits to Overseas Shipholding Group, removing assertions about the company's bankruptcy, claiming that no sources were provided. A responsible editor would have added information about the bankruptcy and subsequent emergence with references. I recommend that the ban on her editing anything in the Recanati category continue.

Outside that category, her edits to Luann de Lesseps, for example, were disruptive, resulting, I suspect, simply from ignorance of the policies and norms of Wikipedia. I am not sure how to test her compliance with Wikipedia norms to allow her to be unblocked. Her use of sockpuppets, first Artliker, then 2600:387:9:3:0:0:0:BE and other IP addresses, tells me that she would prefer to skirt the rules than comply with them. Ignorance can be cured with education; there is no cure for stupidity.

If she continues to communicate through this user page, I have no particular problem with that. If another editor chooses to surveil the page, confirm the veracity of requests and assertions (with references provided), and make changes, that's fine. I fear a series of loud requests with a tone of entitlement spread throughout the encyclopedia. Rhadow (talk) 12:43, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

To start I’m a he not a she can you please teach me about how Wikipedia works during all this process no one has helped me learn about the way it is edited I would give up all sock puppets and ip skipping if I could be unblocked The Leon Yehuda Recanati has lost it is business section h]can you fix it please I want to be completely honest about the whole process I am the son of Michael Recanati please help me  also the Discount Investment Corporation  needs a lookover


 * Hello Flamingoflorida -- I believe you have been given links numerous times to Wikipedia editing guides at all levels of specificity. The prerequisite, as I described before, is an ability to write and spell in English. I am not in a mood to jump into an edit war with Crazypug over what I believe to be a formatting error in Leon Yehuda Recanati. I have to say that I am personally provoked to read your entreaty to "look over" Discount Investment Corporation. Aside from the superfluous list of holdings, it looks okay to me. The sudden interest by Cadeburner is peculiar, but not extraordinary. I am not a secretary from the steno pool at one of the family companies. Rhadow (talk) 19:30, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I have fixed the formatting error at Leon Yehuda Recanati by reverting Crazypug's edits which overall have not been helpful. My question would be what is the relationship between Flamingoflorida and Crazypug because another new account opened around the same time editing these same family articles seems a bit too coincidental to me. Melcous (talk) 20:57, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello I think you and I would find much in common could you agree to help me learn about Wikipedia and supervise my edit on my family articles please read my latest unblock request it relates to your section on sock puppets on your talk page I need help to fix this Flamingoflorida (talk) 21:54, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Block
 Hate to be the bearer of ill tidings, but there are at least a couple of concerns. Firstly, I would not unblock you unless you affirmed that you would not edit pages related to relatives. You had some concerns about accuracy. Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, relies on reliable sources unconnected with the subjects. Please see WP:RS. We cannot verify information that is personal knowledge. Please see WP:V. You might suggest changes on the article talk page(s). For information that is seriously inappropriate, negative unsourced or poorly sourced content, please see WP:BLP. Secondly, and I don't mean to be offensive, I am concerned about whether your command of English is sufficient to edit an encyclopedia. There are a number of concerns raised above about that, and in this very unblock request, I feel you are struggling with the language. Please address these concerns before making another unblock request, preferably after six months of not editing or using sock puppets. Thanks -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 21:14, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

PS. I have posted to the Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard asking the folks there to look into your concerns. Hope this helps. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 21:20, 3 January 2018 (UTC)


 * "my command is English is native and I am extremely articulate."
 * Flamingoflorida, all sentences in English begin with a capital letter. Sentences with two independent clauses have a comma before the coordinating conjunction. The oblique reference to Gertrude Stein, "a rose is a rose is a rose", doesn't work for me. If it wasn't a reference to Stein, then it was sloppy work, as was the rest of the paragraph.
 * Wikipedia is a crowdsourced effort. It is full of errors. Slowly, eventually, they get corrected. If you can't get on board with that, this is not the place for you. You were offered a deal: stay away from the English language Wikipedia for six months. If you do, they will probably let you back in. If someone discovers that Crazypug is another alter-ego, they will ban you for life and make it impossible for IP editors to work from any Starbucks or public library you've ever visited. Rhadow (talk) 22:26, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

That was a typo as you have googled me you saw I have done museum shows that requires a command of English. I know about capital letters Flamingoflorida (talk) 22:30, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Also this whole process has made me anxious and has caused me to be misspell and make errors would you care to communicate my voice to hear my command and vocabulary and grammar it will dispell all your reservations Flamingoflorida (talk) 22:34, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Revert
Alex Those reverts you did was not helpful they where links to other articles a link to the school and adding a person notable enough to have an article to the list and fixing grammar as you say it is a community edit it isn’t it is a petty place that reverts to false information this is a travesty as you have put false information of my family on the web for the world to see I may use sock puppets but I need correct information on the web about my family

January 2018
 Your ability to edit this talk page has been revoked as an administrator has identified your talk page edits as inappropriate and/or disruptive. ([ block log] • [ active blocks] • [ global blocks] • [//tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/autoblock/?user=&project=en.wikipedia.org autoblocks] • contribs • deleted contribs • [ abuse filter log] • [ • change block settings • [ unblock] • [ checkuser] ([ log]))

If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you should read the guide to appealing blocks, then contact administrators by submitting a request to the Unblock Ticket Request System. If the block is a CheckUser or Oversight block, was made by the Arbitration Committee or to enforce an arbitration decision (arbitration enforcement), or is unsuitable for public discussion, you should appeal to the Arbitration Committee. Please note that there could be appeals to the unblock ticket request system that have been declined leading to the post of this notice. Neil N  talk to me 03:46, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

No remorse for socking, indeed tries to justify it. Enough. You can use WP:UTRS for your unblock requests. --Neil N  talk to me 03:49, 4 January 2018 (UTC)