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Medal of Freedom List
Flyguy, very nice job on the Presidential Medal of Freedom List. Being a frustrated librarian (in another life, I guess :-)) I went ahead and re-arranged the major categories. The List does look much better without all of the presenting Presidents added. Let's see how long it takes for someone to protest this change :-). I still think that the recipients' names within the categories should also be alphabetically. This would take a little more time to change. Any thoughts on this? -- Michael David (talk) 17:39, 21 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response, Flyguy. Another thought: Is there anywhere on the List Page where a message such as, "All Categories, Sub-Categories & Recipients' names are listed alphabetically" could be posted? (A note to the readers & a strong hint to the editors :-)) -- Michael David (talk) 19:07, 21 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Your suggestion about the wording of the statement is a good one. I plan to spend a little more time today and see how much work I can get done on the List. I think that most of the Recipients's names are, already, pretty well organized. -- Michael David (talk) 19:29, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the criteria are for featured list status, but a lot of work has been done in researching many of the early recipients. And there are still several recipients that I'm still trying to get vital information on. I've been in touch with the Library of Congress, and at least 4 Presidential Libraries; in addition to the NY Public Library and Pratt Library in Baltimore. They have all been very helpful. It has been a real detective adventure since, over the years, the Medal has been known by different names, and in some cases, the Medal was presented by persons other than the President himself. And, the Category of Espionage/Service to Country has been particulary interesting. -- Michael David (talk) 20:08, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

November 2010
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Trafford09 (talk) 18:55, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Brooke Hart Article Photos
Really excellent work adding the photos to the Freedom Medal List. In addition to being informative, it really adds to the beauty of the page.

While we're on the subject of photos :-), I found some terrific photos relating to the Brooke Hart Article. They are here:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/09/12/2010-09-12_they_had_it_coming_gov_glad_mob_lynched_killers.html

I have never uploaded a photo to a WP article, and I wouldn't have a clue how to if I wanted to; and I don't think my geriatric old friend of a browser could do it anyway. When you get a chance would you take a look at this, and see if it's possible to put them in the article. Thanks for all of your great work. -- Michael David (talk) 19:41, 22 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the tip on the photos, Flyguy. I'm going to try and contact someone at the San Jose News and see if they will give us permission to add the photos. Also, I see you were able to add the "alphabetized" statement to the beginning of the Medal List page. Thanks. The List page is looking better than ever! -- Michael David (talk) 02:06, 23 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I just did as you suggested with the link you gave me, and found this:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=public%2Bdomain+Brooke+Hart&btnG=Search

Does this mean the photos are public domain? -- Michael David (talk) 03:28, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

That single photo of Brooke Hart appears to be in the public domain. Would you be willing to upload it into the Brooke Hart Article? -- Michael David (talk) 20:37, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Edit Summaries
Trafford09 (talk) 14:33, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Removals from own talk page
Hi. I don't accept your criticism, but you're entitled to your own opinion. My concern is to see consensus followed, hence my warnings / hints (not uncivil) on your talk page, which at least until recently you didn't appear to be heeding.

The link you left me - wp:TPO is the one for article talk pages. The one for our own user talk pages - wp:OWNTALK - contains this:

"Users may freely remove comments from their own talk pages, though archiving is preferred. ... The removal of a warning is taken as evidence that the warning has been read by the user."

I assume your comment is to be taken as a warning. I've read it, and choose to delete it. You are equally at liberty to delete this or anything else - past or future - on your own talk page - as I shall be on mine. I chose to delete rather than archive it, as I dispute the thrust of your point, and disapprove of the vocabulary that you used (which you had the decency to concede could have been more eloquent - but nonetheless you restored it, word for word). Editors can still access & read it of course in the page history. If you care to repost your comments on your own talk page, (preferably toned down), that would be a more acceptable compromise.

I've been away for a couple of days, & now it's late at night, here. I'll send you a more complete reply when I've had time to compose one. There is some common ground we share - and I confess a couple of your recent edit summaries made me chuckle out loud, you may be pleased to know.

Until then, I would ask you to be more diplomatic, despite your views. Trafford09 (talk) 23:57, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for waiting - enjoy. Regards, Trafford09 (talk) 16:29, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. BTW, don't forget you can remove (or equally archive) anything on this page that you wish to. Regards, Trafford09 (talk) 09:22, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

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Medal of Freedom List - Did I Screw It Up?
Flyguy,

Would you please take a look at the Presidential Medal of Freedom Recipients List and see if my last edit screwed up somehow. I was trying to add a reference for the latest addition. The count says I subtracted -1,783 characters!?! I can't figure out what went wrong or how to fix it. Thanks -- Michael David (talk) 01:01, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Response to Medal of Freedom post
Flyguy,

Thank you for undoing my screw-up. In case you're wondering why I am responding with a new Section: That is a part of the problem that caused my screw-up in the first place. Short explanation: I am working with a very early version of Internet Explorer on a Mac. Because of recent techincal changes to the WP site I no longer have Section Headings in the Articles and, consequently, no edit buttons that enable me to edit just a Section of an Article - OR a Talk Page. I plan to change browers soon but, until then, I can edit just a whole page - or nothing. I guess the problem with the Freedom Medal Article was its size. That's the best guess I can make right now. Thanks, again for your help, Flyguy. Be healthy in the New Year. -- Michael David (talk) 03:53, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

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