User talk:Geoffswoodwork

Help request
I would have liked to made some contributions to Woodwork.

I have a web page to help Students of Woodwork and I have a book that Students may refer to. The Web Page is Geoffswoodwork. http://www.geoffswoodwork.co.uk/ The book is: Woodwork for Joiners and Cabinetmakers for Beginners and Improvers. - Geoff Malthouse - Stobart Davies Ltd, ISBN 978-0-85442-156-5

It appears that to have a Wikipedia mention, the system requires links to external sources. But if such links are not accesible on the WWW then it is impossible to comply. There are many areas I could have made meaningful contributions for woodwork articles but it seems these are ignored. Geoff (talk) 16:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Welcome
Hi, Geoffswoodwork. This is NOT some automated message...it's from a real person. You can talk to me right now. Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you've just joined, and wanted to give you a few tips to get you started. If you have any questions, please talk to us. The tips below should help you to get started. Best of luck!  Chzz  ►  12:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Tips on referencing
There are lots of ways to do this, some are simple, some more complex.

Personally, I like using citation templates, and fill in as much as I possibly can; maybe a bit more work, but I think it looks better. You have a. An example usage is;

For all the possible things to include, see Template:Citation

Of course, you don't have to put everything in, just whatever you can. The above example is a book, but I've included a 'convenience link' to a website that displays it.

Then, at the end of the document (but before any 'category' tags), you need a references section. You just put,

Already exists
 Chzz  ►  22:56, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I've replied again.  Chzz  ►  22:22, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Promoting your website on wikipedia
You can't promote your own website by externally linking it in articles. Your article appears to be an attempt to promote your book, also. It's up for deletion and probably will wind up being deleted if sources about its notability can be found. Also, a book review is not an endorsement. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 05:03, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Reply
The reason why I linked my website and book was to offer my knowledge for inclusion in Wikipedia Woodworking Project. The project seems like it could do with some input from someone with professional knowledge and experience and balanced with some English input. I would have been quite happy to write articles in the missing and weak subjects but I just seemed to have been ignored? There are obvious entries and comments that have been accepted that at the very best are from amateur enthusiasts? If nothing else, my book may have shown my 'credentials' to an editor with knowledge of the woodworking trade and shown the Wikipedia editor the quality of any possible contributions. The endorsement of the Institute of Carpenters was a hard copy and couldn't be linked to. But you will see the Institute's Coat of Arms and statement of endorsement on the back cover. The flippant comments by Phil Bridger and comparison to 'Noddy in Toyland' was out of order and unnecessary insulting to say the very least. Overall I am disappointed with the responses I got from the Wikipedia team. Geoff (talk) 17:10, 5 December 2009 (UTC)