User talk:Greenwayfriend

August 2012
Is this my talk page? Is someone reading this? Bbb23, are you there?

Hello, I'm Mono. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Amazon Eve, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, theMONO 23:17, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Please do not add or significantly change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. theMONO 23:24, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Stop adding unsourced material to the Amazon Eve and other articles. If you continue, you risk being blocked from editing.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:28, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm cutting you some slack because you appear to be trying harder to edit properly, but you simply can't add unsourced material just by saying in your edit summary that it's true. For example, Skyline High School. You said their website says so, but where? If it does, then you have to cite to it. I see no support for saying she grew up in Turlock. Maybe she did, but we need a SOURCE that says she did. You're causing several editors extra work in reverting material that you add. Please try harder. If you have questions, you can ask them here or on my Talk page. I'm watching your Talk page, so I will see any questions or comments you have. I also didn't understand what you meant when you said you didn't know "how to TALK" in your edit summary.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm removing the Skyline High School statement because it's unsourced. I know it's in the Skyline article, but it's unsourced there, too. I haven't removed it from the Skyline article because many of the entries there are unsourced. So, what I did was to tag the entire section at the article as being unsourced, which is a signal to others that if sources aren't added, the entries may be removed. If you can find a source for her having attended the school, then you can add the material back to the Eve article, and you could even add the same source to the Skyline article.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:43, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Bbb23. Thank you for explaining. And for cutting me the slack. I want to express 40 inches in meters, but I get 0 ft 40 in (m...). I tried convert |disp number only and it did not work. Can you help?
 * A good place to ask this sort of question is at the WP:Help Desk. There are some very knowledgeable editors who answer this sort of question, and they generally do it quickly. It's one of my favorite places on all of Wikipedia. Be very specific (refer to the article) and what you want to convert.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:51, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I saw your latest edit to the Eve article. I didn't revert it, but don't you think it's way too much detail? We really don't need her bra size for all those countries.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:25, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Dear Bbb23, Eve is an international phenomenon. She travels the world. She's had more than 6 million distinct hits only about 1/10th in the US. This conversion of bra size speaks to that audience. That's also why I want to get the inseam in metric. In the niche of "Amazon" light porn, she's major. Are you, by any chance, American? I ask because your wanting citation of high school is a bit difficult. It's not something that is generally in anything but a very local newspaper. Even more so with elementary school. My friend from nursery-sixth grade got a Nobel prize in physics. We list him as an illustrious alumnus, but I doubt any paper with a Web presence has published that fact. Greenwayfriend
 * Sorry, but it's too much detail. By Wikipedia standards, this is a very small article, and to list her bra size for every country is overkill. She may claim she has international appeal, but even if it's true, it doesn't change in terms of our encyclopedic standards. As for the high school, it has to be sourced, or it can't go in. The truth is where someone went to high school is not terribly important to their biography anyway, so it's no big deal if we don't report it. And just in case all of this sounds a tad harsh to you, I actually appreciate the fact that you are talking to me and cooperating.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

While I've contributed to a number of Wiki page, this is the first page for which I am taking something of a lead role. So I have a lot to learn...and I appreciate your patience. Re: Bra size. How would you feel if I were to include the link to the conversion Website without providing the results? Re: International. I find "may claim" to be offensive, but I guess you run into people who invent all the time so I won't take it personally. To help prove her international appeal, would it help if I were to post links to video interviews from outside the US? In fact, how would you feel about a section of Video Interviews with links to both domestic and foreign OR a link to a page which has such links? Thanks for your time and explanations.
 * I think a link to the conversion website is a good solution. The "may claim" is because you cited her website to support it. We don't normally cite self-published websites for what would be considered a self-serving claim. For example, you can cite her website to say I was brought up in Turlock, but you couldn't cite her webcite to say "I am the best model in the world". Even citing her webcite for her measurements is pushing it a bit, but I'm letting it go (some other editor might object - don't be surprised). As for her international appeal, that sounds dicey to me, but I guess I'd have to see the context. Videos are generally hard to cite to. Sometimes there are copyright issues. Other times there are primary source issues. By the way, you should be signing all of your posts.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:38, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

There is a citation to a newspaper to support where she was born. Also, several magazine articles. I would never try to embed the video, just provide a link. Where can I find the aWiki rules for links to videos? May I delete things from this page? Is there an archive feature that can be used? Where can I find answers? Now, let's see if I can sign my name. X (Greenwayfriend his mark) Greenwayfriend (talk) 00:21, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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Ugly Page
The multiple footnotes on the same fact looks like heck. I think having all the reference is helpful. I would like to prune to clean it up. I will keep at least one usage for each reference. SEPARATE ITEM: Is there any plus to updating the retrieved date...on the assumption that I actually check the reference. Is there any easy way to update date retrieved?
 * You're still forgetting to sign your name. Your most recent addition to Amazon Eve is better. I've pared it down (too much information for what it is, particularly about other people) and made some copy edits. My biggest problem with it at the moment is it's a cite to a picture and a cite to a video of pictures. There's no prose of any kind in the cites that support the material you added to the article. Have you seen the Harper's article? (I'm not sure I understand your questions above.)--Bbb23 (talk) 01:03, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I bought the magazine. It's a strange "article." There is no introductory text. The fabulous photos by Karl Lagerfeld and a bit of commentary on each page speak for themselves. AND, it's called "an editorial." Go figure. I fear our updates have crossed. I agree that the footnotes look like heck. Is there a way to say "ibid"? Roitfeld and Lagerfeld are big names in their fields which is why I laid out who they are. I will try to learn from you changes and to follow any suggestions you care to make.--Greenwayfriend (talk) 03:09, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Given that the whole article is about diversity of women I thought it very appropriate to list why Dell'Orefici and Sidibe were included. Even thuguh the first is 82 years old and the second is large, they are still high up in the pantheon of current models. A.E. was included because she is tall. I would like to add those facts back in. --Greenwayfriend (talk) 03:15, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

When I revisit a page and check that the links still work is there an easy way to update the Retrieved field?--Greenwayfriend (talk) 03:09, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I reverted your last edit. It wasn't until you made it that I understood what you mean by ugly page. What you did was completely contrary to the way Wikipedia cites things. I did change the video reference to cite video so there would be a field for the location. By the way, is the magazine issue from September or October? You had one of each, but I thought it was the same issue. Feel free to correct that if I got it wrong. You shoudn't be using cite journal. It's intended for scholarly journals, not magazines. You shouldn't add the facts back into the article. It's already too much in the context of such a short article. Readers can click on the people's names if they want to learn more about them. Where does the quote "homage to the diversity of women" come from if there are only pictures? It's not supported by the citation.--Bbb23 (talk) 11:45, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I see that the correct citation template should have been "news." (I made no edits.) Ms. Roitfeld was appointed the global fashion editor of Harper's Bazaar this year. The article is called an "editorial." The point she is making is that beautiful women and female models are diverse in many ways. I chose Johanssen because she is well known and is a typical beauty. I chose the other two because they are unusual in a way that is relevant to Amazon Eve's unusual characteristic of extreme height. Dell'Orefice is 82 years old and an active model--certainly not what one might expect. Similarly Sidibe is obese, although I thought "large" would be more appropriate. Amazon Eve is unusually tall. The other 21 models demonstrate other areas of diversity, but I thought Dell'Orefice and Sidibe were the best context into which to put Amazon Eve. If we can agree on what Roitfeld had in mind, then I think it is appropriate within the sentence to include, in parentheses, what makes other other two women special. Not everyone will know who they are nor take the time to follow the link. Again, I appreciate your assistance and input. I hope you feel that I am responding appropriately. I know I have a lot to learn. --Greenwayfriend (talk) 01:42, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Peter T. Curtenius
You added a picture of clergyman Petrus Curtenius (1716–1789) to an article on politician Peter T. Curtenius (1734–1798). You see that the image is not showing the subject of the article, right? The image in an article is supposed to show what the article is about. Kraxler (talk) 00:35, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Earlier award recipients
Any one know where to find a list of award recipients going back to the 20th century? Greenwayfriend (talk) 01:42, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

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