User talk:Grev02

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Northamptonshire
Hi ! A WikiProject Northamptonshire has now been created. If you wish  to  help out improving  articles relating  to  anything  in  the county, please don't hesitate to  go  to  the page and sign up!--Kudpung (talk) 12:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Kettering
Hi Grev02, Your hard work on the Kettering article is very  much  appreciated. It's one of the top priority  articles within  the scope of the new Wikipedia Northants project and other editors will  be dropping  by  to  see if they  can lend a hand with  the editing  or make suggestions and constructive criticism. In order to  help  them  do  this, it  may  be a good idea if you  could start  using  the Show Preview button to  check  your edits before finally  pressing  the Save Page button. This will reduce clutter on the history  log, and help  other users to  follow your changes and additions, especially  if you  remember to  add the  edit  summary that  is always required  every  time. Keep up the good work! --Kudpung (talk) 16:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Help request
Hi. I have moved the following help request over from Talk:Kettering; helpme's are dealt with on user talk pages, not on article talks - so that we can help the individual user. I hope that this is OK; if, instead, you wished to start a discussion on the article talk page, then please move it back. Otherwise, I'm sure a friendly helper (which might be me!) will be along to answer your query right here, ASAP. If you want 'instant help', please talk to us live, with this or this. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:46, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

'''This help request is re. Kettering'''

Pipewell abbey

This was already on the page with several wrong facts. Didn't know whether to rectify or delete so I rectified. Not only had I never heard of it but Pipewell is much closer to Corby than Kettering. How far is too far from Kettering for it to be mentioned? Boughton house obviously needs to be mentioned (and is) but what about Triangular lodge and the Eleanor Cross?Grev02 (talk) 20:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Good question. We have to consider the relevance to the subject of the article; is information on Pipewell directly relevant to a piece about Kettering? I don't know. I would suggest either of the following approaches;


 * - Change it, and see if anyone objects. If they do, discuss it with them. Please read WP:BRD


 * - Start a discussion about it, on Talk:Kettering - see what others interested in the article think.


 * In either case, if you have problems in getting a consensus, try to get more people to discuss it. For example, ask on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography, and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Northamptonshire - just a brief note with a link to the discussion, asking for input.


 * For more help, you can either;


 * Leave a message on my own talk page;
 * Use a - please create a new section at the end of your own talk page, put , and ask your question - remember to 'sign' your name by putting ~ at the end;
 * Talk to us live, with this or this.


 * Best wishes,  Chzz  ►  00:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Kettering
Hi. Another contributor brought to my attention that some of the material recently added to Kettering followed a bit too closely to Greenall's book for us to comfortably use it without at least direct quotation. I have revised the passages pointed out. If you by chance are Greenall, you are, of course, free to use your own text or closely follow your own work if your publisher does not object to your licensing the material as required here (we have had occasions where authors have had to remove text later when their publishers objected and are actually in the process of deleting some material for that very reason related to Scottish history), but since Wikipedia does not have any method of verifying identity on account creation, we would need you to verify your identity externally, as through the processes at donating copyrighted material. If you are not Greenall (or even if you are, but would prefer not to go through the hassle of verifying it), we must put information into completely new language unless we are handling it in accordance with the non-free content policy and guideline, by clearing noting duplicated text with quotation marks or other acceptable means, such as blockquote. While the passages pointed out to me — I don't have access to the book myself — would almost certainly represent too small a matter to concern the US copyright law that governs Wikipedia, we try to be more rigorous than fair use allowances in using and especially noting copyrighted material because Wikipedia's content can be reproduced anywhere in the world. If copyrighted material is plainly marked, it can be easily removed by reusers as necessary to comply with copyright restrictions in their own regions. Thank you, and the article seems to be shaping up beautifully. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Northamptonshire
Hi ! A Top Priority article you have been involved with has many  issues and urgently needs improving. If you can help with these issues please see Talk:Northamptonshire, address the different points if you  can, and leave any  comments there. (This is a generic message. if it  has been placed on your talk  page inadvertantly, please ignore it.) --Kudpung (talk) 22:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Kettering
Hi Grev02, The Kettering article is coming along  fine. There are still some passages in  the history section that  are flagged for want  of references. As you appear to have one of the best  sources for information  on  the town, perhaps if you  have time, you  could look up  and add some suitable citations.--Kudpung (talk) 07:49, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I've copyedited much of the History  section  because it  was still  reading  a bit  like a book and still a bit  too  long. An encyclopedia need a very  neutral, non-conversational  prose style. You  can see what  i  have done by  comparing  the edit  histories, and if there is anything you  don't  approve of you  can  always discuss it  and we can revert or change it. I have also  cleaned up  the way  the references appear in  the references section. There is no  need to make Wikilinks in  references because, for one, redlinks don't look nice, and secondly, Wiki  is not  a book  review so  it's unlikely  that  an editor  will take the initiative to  make  articles out of them. --Kudpung (talk) 16:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Worcestershierre, Warwickshierre, and Everyshierre
Hello ! A non-British user seems to be attempting to  suggest that the Brits are not  pronouncing  their own British  place names  correctly,  and appears to  believe that  it  is a policy of Wikipedia to  instruct  the Brits, through  the use of the IPA, how British English  should be pronounced. He/she also seems to be of the  opinion that it is Wikipedia policy to regard British English by default as a rhotic  language, which it is not. Some British Wikipedians are trying to avoid an edit conflict and have requested my support. I have added my comments to the debate the non-British user has  has started in  defence of his/her multiple, WP:BOLD? changes to IPA pronunciations of British place names. As a professional linguist I accord every version  of English  its own particular merits and  my  position here strictly concerns the way in  which  the IPA is interpreted and applied in the Wikipedia, and how the current policy may need to be changed through a truly representative consensus. If you would like to  help  resolve this issue,  please see User talk:Kudpung and User talk:Lfh to  get  the background. Maybe you could then chime in with your views on the subject at Wikipedia talk:IPA for English. Thanks. --Kudpung (talk) 18:54, 12 January 2010 (UTC)