User talk:Hotpine

re: NPOV of "consequences of paternity fraud"
hey hotpine, I saw your post on the wiki talk page for paternity fraud wiki. I just wanted to thank you for saying what you did. I am absolutely gobsmacked that some people will look at a situation where: A.) the man not only recently found out his girlfriend/wife cheated on him, and B.) she didn't care about or respect him enough to tell him that, while C.) coming to terms with the fact that the children he thought were his, aren't

and somehow twist that situation to one where *he* is the villain. Alone, any one of those has the potential to be devastating, life altering information. As it stands now, the post vilifies and shames the abused while completely ignoring the actions and behavior of the abuser. There's really no two ways about it: this is at best inappropriate content and at worst the hateful spewings of an out of touch academic with zero empathy.

The consequences of paternity fraud run broad and deep. There is no shortage of content for this. At some point, after we've talked about counseling, divorce, reasons for secrecy (implicit or explicit; if a mom isn't 100% sure of who the father of her new born is, she should have the decency to let all parties know, including the child), consequences for the child, recourse with the biological father, uphill legal battles for the father to avoid what amounts to involuntary servitude, long term effects of being manipulated into that situation, learning your mother would do that to your 'father,' and so on... then maybe we can talk about how the dad is bitter.


 * Thanks! Glad to know there's at least one other person who agrees. Hotpine (talk) 07:37, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes. We are biased.
Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, once wrote:

Wikipedia's policies ... are exactly spot-on and correct. If you can get your work published in respectable scientific journals – that is to say, if you can produce evidence through replicable scientific experiments, then Wikipedia will cover it appropriately.

What we won't do is pretend that the work of lunatic charlatans is the equivalent of "true scientific discourse". It isn't.

So yes, we are biased.


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And we are not going to change. tgeorgescu (talk) 06:25, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

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