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Great stuff with the Albany area articles btw! Keep up the great work and photographs. Orderinchaos 10:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Western mud minnow
It all depends - if your info is better/improved on the original article - include the info in yours - whichever way - and when you have gutted the other - then change the remaining empty art into a redirect page - probably best way to go - cheers SatuSuro 05:18, 3 October 2007 (UTC) Excellent - looks good! SatuSuro 11:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Do you ever talk to other editors? There are a few articles and issues it would be useful to have a chat about. cheers SatuSuro 09:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * A number of things - like it was some of the islands off the south coast in the Esperance area - I recently started the recherche archipelago and a few others i had in mind - it was a curiosity about online sources/ vs the henrietta sources that i tend to add as further reading - no big deal - you might be interested off wiki - gmail - I dont know its up to you!  anyways I will be off for a bit - back after 7 or so - cheers and thanks for responding - I fully understand why some prefer to keep their talk to a minimum - I am a bit of an online/wiki chatterer at the best of times. SatuSuro 10:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok thats a good example - apart from Woody - do you think there are islands in the archipelago that deserve their own article? SatuSuro 11:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * To your question yes (I have a very overdue long overdue cleanup of the monte belloe islands to so dometime - it might be an idea of not how to do it - list with no coord - i think its better to build from the islands we now about and put some details and their coords before putting a list with none.  Just an idea anyways cheers SatuSuro 13:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Viz Montebello Islands i think looks embarrassing - specially the half done list at the bottom - I think the way you have filled in the details already is a much better way to go - thanks for that.SatuSuro 14:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh I tend to use so much shorthand - the reference to henrietta above was to which i use as well as physically going in every week at least to battye or sro - collect more than i can ever write up  SatuSuro 14:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much - I dont know how you feel about it - but I really appreciate the help -it looks much better than the monte bello one - thanks SatuSuro 15:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your response - and your help - I think there is a need to separates the western group from the eastern as the musueum guys did surveys and identified the groups as east and west - cheers SatuSuro 15:23, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Albany port
Hi lead sentence are impportant issues in MOS when it comes to awarding the art a GA or FA - also separators help break stuff up - scuse the late intrusion - trust all is wll cheers SatuSuro 13:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC) BTW - looks good! SatuSuro 13:16, 21 May 2008 (UTC) Point is if you could add maybe some more historical info and other things - check it against fellow west oz eds at the wa noticeboard - dont take my opinion for a final - i reckon it could go for the higher status- maybe a FA or GA - if you check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_criteria - and maybe see where you can get it - if you have problems with accessing non web based info - i go to battye every week - let me know and i might be able to get stuff - cheers SatuSuro 13:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC) maps and photos it needs - and further info re historical importance stages - early port - and so on - ill give it some thought between everything else by next week - SatuSuro 13:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC) important thing would be the rail link to the wharf - im not up on the start and finish of all that SatuSuro 13:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC) Need to have the region in the lead sentence- and probably further reading - i think its garden and a few others - SatuSuro 13:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Maybe something like 	Wolfe, Adam. Title 	The Albany maritime heritage survey, 1627-1994 / prepared for the Heritage Council of Western Australia, the Albany Port Authority and the Albany Maritime Heritage Association by Adam Wolfe. Published 	[East Perth, W.A.] : The Council, 1994. 239, [26] p., [47] p. of plates (some folded) : ill., maps, plans ; 30 cm. Note 	"December 1994". Bibliography: p. 197-239. It should be down your way - othjerwise i could check bits next week SatuSuro 13:58, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

McCarthy, Mike, 1947- Title 	The archaeology of the jetty : an examination of jetty excavations and `port-related structure' studies in Western Australia since 1984. Published 	2002. Descript'n 	phots. Summary 	Examines excavations of the Fremantle Long Jetty and Albany Town Jetty. Subject 	Jetties -- Western Australia -- Fremantle. Jetties -- Western Australia -- Albany. Underwater archaeology -- Western Australia. Albany Town Jetty (W.A.) Long Jetty (Fremantle, W.A.) Found in 	Bulletin of the Australian Institute for Maritime Archaeology, Vol. 26, 2002, p. 7-18,  and so on

give me a week or so and remind me my edit style is chaos defined SatuSuro 14:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Ill get my hand on the above mentioned - and also i reckon we can get a few pd status photos from 1890s and early 1900s that cold give a good idea - im off now - please remind me - my scattered editing style really needs prompts - too mny places and things all the time :| cheers if the wethr bureau is to believed we gonna get thumped tonight maybenot much sun tommoro SatuSuro 14:05, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Barnstart

 * Indeed - well deserved :) Orderinchaos 19:28, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

V impressed by your current editing
and still like a number of ther issues - havent got around to getting those refs for albany harbour - but was interested - in view of your editing - could you give
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastal_regions_of_Western_Australia once over? I suspect that your experience to date might help it move out of its skeletal phase :( - if you dont mind sometime - cheers SatuSuro 12:03, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

gawd
good luck nullagine looks like a mess - the minerals list alone - you might remember that graham87 and i worked on the mineral fields art - it would be good to get the places named in that list linked one way or other - but hye dont take my suggestions too seriously :( SatuSuro 09:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. I had a bit a look at your art, and made a couple of changes. I did eventually find the ref about the 'g' being dropped from the name, so you may want to change it back. Cheers for all your efforts, I've read a few of them recently. cygnis insignis 12:53, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au/search/X?SEARCH=Bindoon&searchscope=1&Da=&Db=&p=&SORT=D should have a bit more if you were looking for it :) SatuSuro 02:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Just beyond I find a disturbing lead para item (it could mean anything) - any clues to improve? SatuSuro 03:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Wow you sensitive creature - a couple of years ago the thing about this odd place was the notion of being WP:BOLD - problem is it goes to say that some are too much so :( SatuSuro 06:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Heheheh lol etc etc - when some wa arts are written by people who dont know which end to put on one - I wouldnt worry too much :) SatuSuro 06:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

But The townsite was planned in 1911 as part of the Katanning railway, I have a problem with that - gawd there were railway connections that went from katanning in 4 directions - try Great Southern Railway as a link  at least please  :) SatuSuro 01:54, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Oops my bad - the branch - Katanning to Nyabing (as written in http://www.hiddentreasures.com.au/towns/nyabing.php is not very helpful for the geographically or historically challenged) http://www.landgate.wa.gov.au/corporate.nsf/web/History+of+country+town+names+-+n - http://www.landgate.wa.gov.au/corporate.nsf/web/History+of+country+town+names+-+n is better - and in the time it took to research all this you did it ta, :) SatuSuro 02:02, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

btw any interest in putting a cite or two in kojonup it is almost WP:RSfree :) SatuSuro 02:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

of the liswa refs - this is quaint:) http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au/search~S1?/XLake+King&searchscope=1&Da=&Db=&p=&SORT=D/XLake+King&searchscope=1&Da=&Db=&p=&SORT=D&SUBKEY=Lake%20King/1%2C73%2C73%2CB/frameset&FF=XLake+King&searchscope=1&Da=&Db=&p=&SORT=D&23%2C23%2C - cheers I'll get out of your way for today gotta go to the tip SatuSuro 02:25, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

So much for the tip - vandals on my watchlist delayed me another half hour :( - thank you very much for the touchup of kojonup - appreciate that - cheers and keep up the good work! SatuSuro 02:54, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

My her indoors is out at the mo :) - try http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au/search/X?SEARCH=Kojonup&searchscope=1&Da=&Db=&p=&SORT=D you mow the lawn, ill do the tip run and well see what we can do later :) - cheers SatuSuro 03:01, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Hope you might enjoy the insult on the edit summary at witchcliffe that I did :) SatuSuro 12:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Some day one of us in the wa project is gonna have to do a map of the whole railway system for the WA project anyway - i downloaded the software i need to make one but need a clear head and plenty spare time to work out how to do that - the ways things are shaping up - that means next year :( SatuSuro 12:59, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Wilson Inlet
Thanks for writing that. Nice work. It was on my to-do list. Moondyne 13:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Great Southern template
Re Towns Great Southern WA - that was done from the LGA article lists. If you see any missing which will in an ideal world have an article, feel free to add them to the template. I had the help of a Wheatbelt local for the Wheatbelt template when I did that. Orderinchaos 07:52, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar!

 * Well deserved, let me buy you a cup of coffee one day. Dylans? Regards, cygnis insignis 11:24, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Albs, yep. Long time fan, newly resident. After new year is good for me too. Been meaning to drop you a note, very impressed with the work you have done. I've been doing a bit on Albany already, history and plants mainly. Regards to you too, cygnis insignis 13:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Whicher Range
You got anything on it? - I reckon we need to get it on as there are multiple issues - oil exploration on it - a very odd oil show with idiosyncratic features and - also the flora and fauna seem to have some interesting refs to the location SatuSuro 13:36, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I am almost certain there are declared rare flora on the range SatuSuro 12:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

As always
You are always generous and i never come up with the goods myself - thank you!SatuSuro 13:08, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that - bloody watsonia - some people i know reckon it is a 10 to 20 year project to remove watsonia from any one location :( SatuSuro 15:03, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh hell the coastal regions art could do with so much work - there are so many components I havent even started working on :(  SatuSuro 13:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

There is actually a 'beaches' of western australia book (its in the biblio of the art) - it identifies every beach in wa - ^ Short, Andrew D (2005)Beaches of the Western Australian Coast: Eucla to Roeback Bay ISBN 0-9586504-3-8. - it actually gives un-named ones numbers and is brilliant late night reading :) - must get it out of murdoch uni library again SatuSuro 13:26, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Category sorting trivia
Re: your recent edits to Tony O'Gorman... Please read Categorization of people, especially "other exceptions". It's not obvious, but names with apostrophes, non-initial capital letters, and non-capital initial letters actually have to be mis-spelt to have them sort correctly in categories. I can explain in tedious, excruciating detail if you like... Studerby (talk) 18:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

It is/was a sheep station
Booming Thundelarra. Published 	2005. Descript'n 	ill. Note 	History and description of Thundelarra Station near Yalgoo which is for sale. Subject 	Thundelarra (W.A.) Found In 	Farm weekly, 24 Nov. 2005, p.179,

chnged my mind

we need to re-write it to reality - it is a notable pastoral lease just out of yalgoo http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au/search~S1?/dThundelarra+(W.A.)/dthundelarra+w+a/-3%2C-1%2C0%2CB/exact&FF=dthundelarra+w+a&1%2C5%2C - the quidditch stuff has been changed at the quidditch ref - my main computer is in hospital and working on this one is murderous - so if you dont re-write remind me to do so SatuSuro 14:29, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Barton River
I was lazy when I defined this in Vermont, USA. Following local conventions I shoulda defined it as "Barton River (Lake Mempremagog)", modifying it with the place it trickles into, a stupid convention but guarantees a unique definition 99% of the time. IFF we did this, we would probably still need a disambiguation page for Barton River. Let's face it, we haven't scratched the surface of all the Barton Rivers in the world. Probably dozens of them.

Then, we would have to change all the links to Barton River Vermont. I'm too lazy to really want to do this, but I don't want to pretend that I really own the name just because I was first!

Anyway. Your call. Student7 (talk) 21:04, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

No worries
We're still trying to sort it out ourselves :) The category structure for politicians has been so tangled that it needed a rethink (and considerable simplification), but it now seems to work. Orderinchaos 05:42, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Ceaseless WA geo stub work
Thanks for all the hard work - glad someone is getting it done!!! SatuSuro 13:13, 26 April 2009 (UTC) Melbourne was really great - did Bells beach surfing comp (havent even got to uploading the surfing photos yet), as well as the 2 footy games (El Etihad and MCG in one afternoon evening), as well back streets art in CBD melbourne, as well as a very small part of the comedy festival. Lotto or a dead rellie with an inheritance - its Vic/Tas for me ! :)  SatuSuro 13:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Lake Monginup: name confusion
Lake Monjingup and Lake Mortijinup are two different lakes. This is clear from the List of lakes in Western Australia, L-P. Lake Monjingup is a very small lake (maybe less than 100m x 100m) on Telegraph Road just off South Coast Highway, 10 km West of Esperance. It is this lake that is the centre of Lake Monginup Nature Reserve, which is equipped with boardwalks and recreational facilities. My photo is of Lake Monjingup.

Lake Mortijinup is a much larger lake past the end of the Telegraph Road. It is a centre of another nature reserve, Lake Mortijinup Nature Reserve, but I do not think there is standard two-wheel drive vehicle access to it.

I think the information on the page confuses these two lakes.

Should we perhaps create two different artciles?BorisG (talk) 16:39, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Albany
No worries at all :) BTW I did maps for all the suburbs over at Commons at the time which can be found at Commons:Category:Maps of Albany, Western Australia - feel free to use them for the other ones.

Reminds me - I have to do the Bunbury suburbs one day. Have been so busy with QLD politics (of all things) that I have unfinished projects all over the place. I even have photos I took way back in 2006 which I have yet to upload.

Hope you're well - I'm in the job market atm and doing some part time study while I wait for something to come up (I moved sideways into the TAFE sector, but chose a really bad time to do so it seems) Orderinchaos 07:28, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: 10:30
Hello Hughesdarren. I am just letting you know that I deleted 10:30, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 10:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Attack pages
Hi. Thanks for tagging Drew lefeber just now, but when a page is a personal attack like that the thing to do is blank it and add a db-attack tag (or db-g10 or db-atk which are equivalent). That gets the attack off the encyclopedia quickly, so the attacker can't giggle over it and it won't get picked up by mirror sites, puts it in a high-priority queue for admin attention, and generates a suitably fierce warning template for you to copy to the attacker's talk page. Keep up the good work - New Page Patrol needs all the eyes it can get. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:27, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Full story -Stormbreaker
Hello Hughesdarren. I am just letting you know that I deleted Full story -Stormbreaker, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 12:26, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Specs Effect
Sadly, the advert is real. But I agree that this article deserves to go. NtheP (talk) 10:09, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

A7 and notability
Hi Hughesdarren. I saw your tagging of Pete Riley and came here to let you know that the A7 criterion is a lower standard of notability. As WP:CSD says, A7 "does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source."  The left orium  20:44, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Feedback on Contributions
This was origonally added on your userpage in this revision. Moving it to the talk page instead Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 13:24, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

'''This section is not written by user: Hughesdarren.

It is a space that provides other users to comment on this users contributions.'''

Hughesdarren - You continually edit the Albany Senior High School website to remove content that is not contested as being accurate. Under Wikipedia's 'Verifiable' instruction page it is stipulated that content only needs citation if its accuracy is contested. Please do not continue to contest the addended information to the Albany Senior High School article out of vendetta. The Albany Senior High School Pine Forest information is known by all who attended the school (as staff or students) during the 2002 upgrades. As you are yourself an educator, a clear conflict of interest is apparent in your removal of content that you feel may not be 'suitable' for an article concerning a school - This vested interest is irrelevant to the provision of accurate and comprehensive material in Wikipedia articles.

Perhaps you could do with a read on wikipedia policies yourslf, particularly NPOV, editing talk pages and making constructive edits. You may notice the "content" you added has been removed and the page locked by wikipedia adminstrators to prevent future vandalism. --Hughesdarren (talk) 08:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Albany Senior High School
Hi Excirial, I've been having problems with an editor making continued changes on an article Albany Senior High School, Western Australia by user 203.59.28.108 who seems to want to make a stance on a single issue about a pine forest. The same user has then gone and made changes mostly to other pages I've contributed on. Most of these changes add no information but are entirely neagtive in nature. I don't want to waste your time but could you have a look at the history of Albany Senior High School, Western Australia article and let me know if you think I've been unreasonable? Cheers --Hughesdarren (talk) 02:52, 1 May 2010 (UTC)


 * It seems that User:Orderinchaos already dealt with it by protecting the page in question. Most of the edit actually seems fine, except for the "Sexual intercourse" part. This would be one of the cases where i would be wondering about the users motive's, but have a look at this edit as well. Third Reich? Keep Troth? In other words, vandalism masked with some content. Feel free to WP:RBI if this continues after the protection expires. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 21:05, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

- The fact that you people are too ignorant to know what the word 'Troth' means does not make it any less a part of the english language. Perhaps you should do some research before making changes simply out of a naive understanding. Here is the front of the school pictured with the emblem and motto: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/AlbanySHS1.jpg

I would make the edit myself but you have seen to the locking of the page, thanks. Its fantastic when somebody actually knows factual information but is blocked by somebody who doesn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.95.128.51 (talk) 09:03, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Cannabis, Sex and Deforestation
You may have won this round Hughesdarren, but the thousand years war for the ASHS wikipedia page has only just begun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.59.28.108 (talk) 14:04, 5 May 2010 (UTC)