User talk:Hughesdarren/Archive 5

Template:Did you know nominations/U.S. Route 33 in Michigan
Hughesdarren, you reviewed this nomination, but didn't complete the review. Unless there is an approval icon included (the icons are shown above the edit window on a nomination template), the review is considered incomplete, and the bots can't find it and list it as completed. Can you please revisit it, and if you are indeed satisfied that it satisfies all DYK criteria, give it the appropriate "tick" icon? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:19, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, I can't believe I missed it - done now, apologies for any hold-ups. Hughesdarren (talk) 09:28, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

fyi
it would be great for your thoughts... if you were able... JarrahTree 13:20, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

small explanation
some rather brash edits last night - some explanation required (and help requested)

have created a fortescue river category - due to the various dam proposals and the ever increasing mining which subsequently increases the literature about and around the marshes

please feel free to add any adjacent stations to the category, and/or edit the artices as they stand - i have a horrible feeling i might have made a mistake or two in there...

I managed to score a hard copy of the christmas creek expansion public environmental review doc, a whole forest must have dissapeared on the appendices alone... (it could flatten anything it is so heavy)

any suggestions appreciated... cheers JarrahTree 02:49, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * thanks for your edits JarrahTree 07:02, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

out of time
no more time left today - just noticed how well resourced on trove for your latest! http://trove.nla.gov.au/result?q=st+johns+albany JarrahTree 04:10, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Cheyne or Cheynes
Please see Talk:Cheyne Beach Whaling Station. It would be nice to get a definitive answer on whether it is Cheyne or Cheynes; if nothing else, that article is getting linked to from lots of other articles now, so it would be nice to get it right. Mitch Ames (talk) 02:48, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Date formats in refs
Regarding this and similar edits, please remember that: Mitch Ames (talk) 08:12, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * ISO-8601 date formats are acceptable in references - MOS:DATEFORMAT, WP:CITESTYLE
 * Date formats in references need not match those in the article - MOS:DATEUNIFY
 * "Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style merely on the grounds of personal preference" - WP:CITESTYLE
 * "... it is normal practice to defer to the style used by the first major contributor" - WP:CITEVAR

Regional timelines
Could be good idea to do kimberley and goldfields ones as in regional catches - good idea!!! JarrahTree 23:31, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yup Pilbara one now needs a good review now that trove is so much better. Also the general category tree is in need of checking, a lot of history of xxx articles are in actual fact timelines more than articles, but that is a lot of checking..... JarrahTree 03:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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Draft:The Lily (windmill) article
Hi Darren, Please go ahead, your help in getting the article approved is much appreciated! Verhoeven.roel (talk) 10:49, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

ghost town, pastoral lease, and rare granite
all conflated at Boogardie, Western Australia - I think it possibly should be three separate articles, but not sure - any ideas? JarrahTree 23:46, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Not much info on the pastoral lease, but I see you have separated the quarry. Could easily knock up a stub on the station if you think it's worth doing. Hughesdarren (talk) 11:11, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * yup i have set up three - a stub on the pastoral lease would be much appreciated - can get more about it next time I am in battye or sro
 * ✅ done - very brief - see if you can find any more? Hughesdarren (talk) 01:27, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

a similar problem arises with dalgaranga and melangata - both are pastoral leases with geological features... JarrahTree 13:44, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

explanation
due to the size of the state and the 'generic' nature of the categories, a plan is afoot to separate into categories for regions to tie in with the templates for rivers and stations - it would be very useful if you were able to give some feedback as to the category name for the stations, as ou are indeed the main contributor/starter of the articles to date


 * stations of the kimberley region of western australia
 * pastoral leases of the kimberley region of western australia

I am less concerned with the title size, more which 'fits' the articles to date in context or meaning... JarrahTree 03:43, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Wasn't there a discussion on pastoral leases vs stations and the differences between them some time ago? I can't find where the discussion took place though......
 * Given there is a template for each region at the bottom of the articles and region cats also exist in each article it seems like extra (and fairly pointless) administrivium to recategorise for separate regions. Hughesdarren (talk) 08:07, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Nah I see a difference between having a template, and a much larger category it sits inside as a hindrance, but i can hear your point though.

rivers of western australia is massive, cut into regions in a cetagory sense, I think is a good idea, similarly with stations. I think in the end if the template has stations - the category is stations. cheers JarrahTree 11:42, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

not sure
maybe I have been on the computer too long today

where the turquoise / batavia coast cut off is where the mid west / wheatbelt   cut off is

It is probably looking at me in the face  JarrahTree 07:44, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * According to the source in the articles of the islands it is down as far as Cervantes (which is in the wheatbelt). That was why I had changed some cats to wheatbelt from mid west. Hughesdarren (talk) 07:47, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * thanks for that JarrahTree 07:56, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Seasons greetings

 * Thanks for your work on Western Australian and pastoral leases and all for 2015
 * Have a safe and enjoyable christmas season
 * Best wishes to you and all your family JarrahTree 11:13, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
To You and Yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:35, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Holidays


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Arpenteur
You've made a good start, but the article needs an infobox - Infobox ship begin is the one. Mjroots (talk) 09:21, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Plenty of resources for ship articles linked from WP:SHIPS/R. Mjroots (talk) 13:06, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your kind words on my page :) Hope all is well. Hoping to get back into active Wikipedia editing this year but have been pretty busy in real life (including with Wikimedia chapter work). Orderinchaos 11:21, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Eucalyptus common names
Thank you for creating redirects for eucalyptus common names. I see you've been doing a mix of capitalization styles. How to capitalize common names of organisms on Wikipedia was subject to a long-running dispute. In many fields specialists writing about organisms use common names where every part of the name is capitalized (e.g. "Black Stringybark"); this is the usual practice for Australian botanists. In other fields, specialist usage only capitalize parts of the common name that are themselves proper names (e.g. "orange gum", "Baeuerlen's gum"), and non-specialist usage generally also follows this convention. In May 2014 it was decided that common names should be in lower-case (except when they contain an element that is itself a proper name). As there was no firm resolution of the issue for many years, Wikipedia has many articles that have common names capitalized which should be downcased. Efforts to standardize capitalization are proceeding slowly.

With that in mind, if you're going to create a redirect for a single form of capitalization it should be lower-case. I do see some continued utility in creating redirects for deprecated capitalizations; somebody writing an article on an Australian mountain may not be aware of the minutiae here and will simply follow the capitalization style of whatever sources they are consulting, and it may be quite some time before somebody else comes along and standardizes the capitalization. However, in the long run, capitalized common name redirects will be less useful than lowercase. Thank you again for your recent work on Eucalyptus articles. Plantdrew (talk) 01:56, 29 January 2016 (UTC)


 * OK, I was sort of following the conventions as listed on:
 * List of Eucalyptus species
 * where the common name is listed but was finding it was inconsistent with :external references. Is the common names should be in lower-case (except :when they contain an element that is itself a proper name) rule preferred?
 * So:
 * Orange gum should be orange gum
 * Baeuerlen's gum is OK
 * Black Stringybark should be black stringybark
 * Is it correct to assume placenames are also proper names?
 * Badgingarra box is also OK?


 * Or is it better just to always use lowercase through the entire common name?


 * Thanks for the help. Regards Hughesdarren (talk) 10:03, 29 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, you've got the right idea. It's spelled out in Manual of Style/Capital letters. Place names and people's names are the proper names you're most likely to encounter in a common name.


 * I'm not quite sure what you mean by inconsistent with external references, but I think we should follow the sources. In some cases, inconsistency may be due to differing varieties of English. US sources tend to format compound adjectives in common names as "narrowleaf", "largeflower", "hairyfruit" while Australian sources format them as "narrow-leaved", "large-flowered" and "hairy-fruited". Wikipedia sometimes has other formats that aren't really supported by any sources (or at least not any reliable ones); "narrow leaf", "large-flower", "hairyfruited". We should follow the formatting as given in the source. I've added common names with US formatting for a few Eucalyptus species that are naturalized in the US, but if there are Australian sources giving essentially the same name with a slightly different format I have no objection to following the Australian style.


 * One other thing. I usually leave an initial capital for the first entry when common names are listed in a table format (essentially treating the cell in the table as a sentence). But I could also see having the table entry as lower case (which is how the "A" species in List of Eucalyptus species are currently formatted). Plantdrew (talk) 20:19, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thankyou very much for your kind words. Hughesdarren (talk) 06:20, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Creating Eucalyptus pages
Hi Hughesdarren, thanks for all of your contributions, when you create a new stub for plant species, it is a good habit to state the genus in the first sentence - please keep this in mind, thanks. --MCEllis (talk) 04:07, 19 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The first word in the body of the article text is the genus and it is also stated in the infobox, surely a third time is overkill? Hughesdarren (talk) 11:30, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Eucalyptus sessilis


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 * Are you some kind of idiot? A (competent) editor has removed your tag. Hughesdarren (talk) 05:29, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Eucalyptus semota


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Speedy deletion nomination of Eucalyptus tumida


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Tinga Tingana
I think that article as created is incorrect - this article suggests that it was abandoned and picked up again a few times over the years? There are definitely a lot of Trove references to it after 1889. Apologies in advance if this is a work in progress and I'm stating the obvious. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 09:50, 7 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Still working on it, I'm guessing you are referring to the present tense used in the lead? I had assumed (incorrectly) that the station still existed Hughesdarren (talk) 10:02, 7 March 2016 (UTC)


 * interesting station story regardless -

and the new version of trove is horrible to find the citation proprerly until got used to -

enjoy the article - it looks interesting JarrahTree 10:15, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Why you undid my edition in the page about Aborigines?
Why you undid my edition in the page about Aborigines?

I removed highly controversial informations and puted trues, example, in 1960s the aborigines was considered savage animals and they accepted this law until this time.

201.81.64.163 (talk) 13:11, 25 March 2016 (UTC).


 * None of your edits were sourced and frankly laughable. Go troll your racist nonsenSe elsewhere. Hughesdarren (talk) 13:14, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Albany shark net
Hello Hughesdarren,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Albany shark net for deletion, because it doesn't appear to contain any encyclopedic content. Take a look at our suggestions for essential content in short articles to learn what should be included.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Vinod 08:58, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Ellen Cove shark net
Hello Hughesdarren,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Ellen Cove shark net for deletion, because it's too short to identify the subject of the article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Vinod 08:58, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Middleton Beach shark net
Hello Hughesdarren,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Middleton Beach shark net for deletion, because it's too short to identify the subject of the article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Vinod 08:58, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I've undone the following speedy deletion nominations, as the pages were valid redirects. ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 09:03, 31 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I left a message on the users page too. Hughesdarren (talk) 09:05, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Middleton Beach shark barrier
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:11, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Murrawijinie Cave
Hi, have you read the entry on Talk:Murrawijinie Cave which explains why the page was tagged? Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 07:11, 20 April 2016 (UTC)


 * No, but the reference said Murrawijinie Caves is located within the Nullarbor National Park.. I had assumed this was current, but it appears not. I can't find any better reference that clarifies this either. Sorry I'll revert my changes. Regards Hughesdarren (talk) 07:40, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Aramac
I am sorry for the misunderstanding, but i am a resident of Aramac and on the 28 of February, Aramac changed its name to Stainburn after local station Stainburn downs. I was in the process of editing this page when I had to go to work. Desfrkabmwz (talk) 08:55, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of ANZAC Peace Park
Hello! Your submission of ANZAC Peace Park at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SST flyer 04:04, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

hope it seems ok
with the cat swap... as the potential for a significant addition of more from the list, the west oz list seemed to be sufficient large to separate it out... cheers JarrahTree 10:17, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No worries..I'm going thru the list as well - got a couple of photos of upper kalgan hall when I went for a ride up that way today, will post up later - Cheers Hughesdarren (talk) 10:23, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * great!! JarrahTree 10:31, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all that, had to step away from computer for a few hours, and wow! thanks !! JarrahTree 14:01, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

List edit is fine
Np with the Albany List - cheers JarrahTree 13:53, 2 May 2016 (UTC)