User talk:Insert coins

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Thank you
Thank you for help in improving the article Sol Hachuel. Now I will know whom I could ask, if I need to translate something from French :) Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:17, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for adding a mention of the UNESCO Register to Humanist Library of Sélestat. You beat me to it! I think it is excellent news. LynwoodF (talk) 22:21, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed. It is a fantastic place, but it is running on a dramatically low budget. I certainly hope the label will help to attract funds! All the best, Insert coins (talk) 07:47, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Apology
Sorry, I was too hasty in my reaction to your edit. That particular usage is one that I had not encountered before, but you are quite right, "enter" is a possible valid translation (though not very good English style). Please accept my apology for my incorrect edit summary.

--NSH001 (talk) 22:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Accepted, of course. --Insert coins (talk) 22:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Advocating or/and celebrating mass murder
In your edit of Michèle Renouf, you've stated that the people Renouf campaigns for advocate and/or celebrate the mass murder of a whole group of people. From what I understand, none of the people that she campaigns for do any thing like that. In fact to me, it seems like you've made quite an extreme claim. I was wondering what your claim is based on? Robert Ham (talk) 08:58, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * On http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/hitlove.htm, for instance. --Insert coins (talk) 09:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Firstly, that web page says that the book was written by Eric Thompson. I don't believe Renouf has campaigned for Eric Thompson.  Ernst Zündel provided pictures for the book and received payments for its publication but that is quite different from actually writing the book.
 * Secondly, I've had a quick scan of that web page. I can find no mention of mass murder; no celebration or advocating of it.  It appears that this book does not advocate and/or celebrate the mass murder of a whole group of people.
 * If what you are claiming is true, I would expect to see sentences like 'it is good that this mass murder took place' or 'we should destroy this group of people'. As I understand it, Fredrick Töben, David Irving and other people Renouf has campaigned for, write sentences like 'is our retrospective view of this mass murder correct?'  You seem to be arguing as if these people had written sentences like the first two examples but, they haven't actually done this.  Instead they've written sentences like the last example.  I don't believe any of them have celebrated or advocated mass murder.  If they had, I doubt Renouf would have campaigned for them.  Robert Ham (talk) 09:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I will not plunge into the depths of the zundelsite and leave to others to read for themselves on what grounds the German justice has found fit to send Zundel to prison for his constant Volksverhetzung and agressive Holocaust denial. Howevere, you may want to read this http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/zundel.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=2&item=zundel. Of course, the ADL is not exactly neutral on the matter, but they make a distinction between denying the Holocaust and being Pro-Nazi that is interesting if you think of what the Nazis stand for. On Horst Mahler, another protégé of Renouf, see this (a blog, but the main text comes from Studies in Conflict & Terrorism Volume 32, Issue 4, April 2009): http://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/?p=8983. Again, Holocaust denial and the call for smashing, destroying, annihilating etc. are closely intertwined. --Insert coins (talk) 11:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * And here, Mahler is quoted as saying "In der Vernichtung der Juden waltet Vernunft...Milliarden Menschen wären bereit, Hitler zu verzeihen, wenn er nur den Judenmord begangen hätte", i. e. "the destruction of Jews is an act of reason... Billions of people would be ready to forgive Hitler if only he had committed the murder of the Jews". That's Horst Mahler and Michèle Renouf in a nutshell for you.--Insert coins (talk) 11:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * You say "Holocaust denial and the call for smashing, destroying, annihilating etc. are closely intertwined." The issue at hand is not Holocaust denial but the advocacy and/or celebration of mass murder.  Your argument seems to simply be that Holocaust denial is equivalent to advocating and/or celebrating mass murder.  This is nonsense; the two are not equivalent.
 * You claimed that Renouf has campaigned for people who advocate and/or celebrate mass murder. If this claim is based solely on Holocaust denial, then your claim is unfounded.
 * As for Horst Mahler, I can't find any reference to Renouf having campaigned for that person. Robert Ham (talk) 16:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Are you being sincere in your last sentence? Because you can have it from the horse's mouth: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fJN73cFYggAJ:www.tellingfilms.netne.net/+michel+renouf+horst+mahler. --Insert coins (talk) 17:18, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd hardly call one web page a campaign. Regardless, there is no mention of any advocating and/or celebrating of mass murder within the wikipedia article for Horst Mahler so I'm slightly sceptical of your claims.  You've presented a German web page as a source but there's no way to know if it's reliable, or even says what you claim, if you don't speak German.  Robert Ham (talk) 18:03, 13 July 2010 (UTC)


 * "Die Welt" is not a "web page" but a much respected newspaper. You could know it if you wanted. And if you doubt my translation, do your own. Google provides free translation services. As for the Wikipedia page, you know very well that any ass can edit them as he wants. If something is not written in an article, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It could mean somebody would want to conceal it, though.
 * I will not discuss with you any further, though, because you are being increasingly splitting hairs. Your calling "Die Welt", one of Germany's most respected newspapers, a mere "web page" is a bit dishonest, I'm afraid. If you can think of an argument proving that Zundel, who has been an apologist for the "Third Reich" for decades and has been to prison for that on legal German grounds, has in fact never been supporting the genocidal politics of that Reich, don't provide it to me. Because, with all due respect, I'll know it will be wrong. --Insert coins (talk) 13:07, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Note
After both you and I tried to back away from the "Smurf" thing, Izak continued to come after us and hassle us. If he does it again, I recommend we take it to an admin and ask the admin to tell him to back off. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:55, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Allwight, bunny wabbit. --Insert coins (talk) 19:04, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Strasbourg Cathedral in architecture history
Hi Insert coins. I acknowledge your interest in Strasbourg Cathedral, but WikiProject importance rating is a different thing. Architecture is not about dimensions but artistic expression. There are many large monster structures which wouldn't be mentioned in any architectural account. Size of a construction might be of highest importance in structural engineering, but is not the primary concern of architecture. Regarding this, 17th century (date of tower) is not medieval, so is a bit of a stretch to say that. Furthermore in that regard the Ulm Minster is the tallest standing structure of Gothic origin. Regardless, none of theme are prime examples of Gothic architecture, hence definitely no top rating. For top rating I would be looking for a reference stating that is the most important example of Gothic architecture of a certain period. Otherwise the importance ratings are not clear cut, so I am fine with "high". --Elekhh (talk) 20:00, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The tower was achieved in 1439, not in the 17th century and is a genuinely medieval structure. Enough said. --Insert coins (talk) 09:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I misread the year. Thanks for pointing it out, and sorry if this angered you. --Elekhh (talk) 21:44, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Never mind, it's completely forgotten. Cheers, Insert coins (talk) 23:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Dieudonné M'Bala M'Bala
Dieudonné disant "Isra-heil" est une légende urbaine, Dieudonné M'Bala M'Bala à dit "Israël" comme le prouve cette video. Dire qu'il a dit "ira-heil" est du "WEASEL", c'est propager des avis biaisés, des mensonges et des oui-dire.

Jürgen Wagner
I too was doubtful about the notability of this person. He seems to be known for having been executed as a war criminal and hardly fits in with the footballers and composers. I was mulling over whether to remove him, but now you have done it for me. On balance I support your action. LynwoodF (talk) 09:41, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Especially so as, as Nazis go, he isn't exactly a household name like Goering or Himmler, and he's less relevant for Alsace than the other Wagner. Cheers, --Insert coins (talk) 14:18, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Strasbourg Cathedral
I could not see the relevance of the word "Münster", but I thought I might draw out the Polish chap who put it there years ago. However, if both you and I agree that it makes no sense in the context, I am happy to leave it as it now is. I am irritated by people who change things anonymously without explanation and I accord no respect to their views. LynwoodF (talk) 13:39, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

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