User talk:JBradleyChen

Response (continuing from Talk:Scientific racism)
Hi! One of the hardest things to get used to as a new editor, especially if you have academic background or some kind of independent knowledge of a subject, is that adding content to Wikipedia requires sources, and they have to be reliable and representative of the consensus of experts, at least if the added text is stated in wikivoice. If the content you want to add is the opinion or interpretation in a primary source and if the author(s) are notable experts, that can be included if it's attributed ("According to...,"). But editors cannot use their own reasoning to combine information from different sources to give an interpretation or conclusion that's not explicitly in the sources; see WP:SYNTH. There are a lot of articles and essays that explain policy. Some of the most important ones that are often cited on talk-pages are WP:NPOV, WP:NOR, WP:BRD, WP:V, WP:UNDUE, and WP:FALSEBALANCE. NightHeron (talk) 21:00, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * That sounds like a sound policy. How does Wikipedia differentiate between sources and the relevant sources? How well do you think it is being applied on the Scientific racism page? I'm happy to continue via email if you prefer. JBradleyChen (talk) 21:42, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * There are a lot of details about which sources to use at WP:RS.
 * I think that Wikipedia policy is being applied pretty well at Scientific racism. That page has 680 page-watchers, so there are always several editors who are prepared to get involved if poorly sourced material is added. My impression is that it is mainly articles on minor or peripheral topics that can have major quality problems, because few editors ever look at those pages.
 * I don't use email for Wikipedia correspondence, since I prefer to edit pseudonymously, because of the contentious nature of some of the topics I've been involved with and the extreme hostility of a very small number of editors who defend racist pseudoscience. NightHeron (talk) 22:04, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * That's fine. I have been wondering if I should create a pseudonymous account myself. To be honest I think that page needs a lot of work. I hope I can find a way to be helpful. It would be convenient for me if there was a way to have a conversation with an experienced editor, but not in public view. But I don't expect my convenience to be the first priority for Wikipedia...
 * Thank you for the tips. I am grateful for your feedback! JBradleyChen (talk) 22:30, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * You might ask as he is both an experienced editor and an academic.  Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 22:52, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * If a person has expertise they should not hide it--it gives one credibility that is hard for anonymous editors to obtain. Rjensen (talk) 23:03, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Feedback
Here: Apologies; I didn't intend to assume your position. Later in the same dang post: VQuakr is opposed to including Malthus at all, asserts he speaks for the consensus, which is completely inaccurate. Doing stuff like this really isn't helpful. You've repeatedly been mischaracterizing what I've said in that thread. I don't think you're doing it on purpose, but I strongly suggest you quit trying to "sum up" others' arguments until you have more experience with Wikipedia. Thanks! VQuakr (talk) 17:05, 12 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the feedback. I was not doing this to be irritating. My point in restating or trying to summarize your argument is to confirm that I understand it, or if I don't to give you the opportunity to correct me. If I was doing this behind your back that would clearly be underhanded. If I do this in the open forum I figured you would understand that I was not trying to misrepresent your position. JBradleyChen (talk) 20:28, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * To be clear I haven't thought at any point that you were doing anything with the goal of being irritating or sneaky. I know you are relatively new and I want to give you the tools to be able to edit without getting frustrated. Not all of Wikipedia's cultural norms are intuitive. VQuakr (talk) 20:48, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

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AfC notification: Draft:Allan Chase has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Allan Chase. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 04:26, 18 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for having a look! At this point I'm wondering how long the review of the new article will take, and if I should add a disambiguation page now or wait until it is approved. I'm sure it's not hard but I've never done it before so not something I am inclined to rush into.
 * It looks like you have some experience with dispute resolution. I think I am about to start learning about that process too... JBradleyChen (talk) 12:56, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * It can wait until the article is moved to mainspace. The new article would go to Allan Chase (writer) with a hatnote per WP:ONEOTHER. Unfortunately, AfC is severely backlogged so it may be weeks or months before the draft is reviewed. VQuakr (talk) 16:16, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

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Introduction to contentious topics
ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:44, 19 May 2023 (UTC)


 * This isn't to imply any wrongdoing on your part, just to let you know that the topic you're editing is contentious, and it is easy to make mistakes, especially for a new editor. Please strongly consider the advice given to you by experienced editors when editing in this topic area. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:46, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I've put together what I think would be the best format for the RFC at User:ScottishFinnishRadish/sandbox. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

WP:SYNTH
You could read some of the archives/current discussions at WP:NORN to see examples, though I do suggest not commenting there until you have more experience. The tone on the "drama boards" can be acerbic. VQuakr (talk) 15:07, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Allan Chase (July 7)
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BuySomeApples (talk) 02:48, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Allan Chase has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Allan Chase. Thanks! BuySomeApples (talk) 01:48, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Allan Chase (writer) has been accepted
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