User talk:JCC the Alternate Historian

Help With Creating Sandbox
Since I just created my account yesterday, may I please get some help with creating my sandbox? I have no idea how to put up the boxes to tell about myself, what are my interests, my ancestry, and my political views. Does anyone have directions on how to put the infoboxes on my sandbox? I would appreciate the help! --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:24, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome. You did not receive a reply because no one saw it until now I suppose. You can find a lot of options for userboxes at Userbox Gallery and you can develop your userpage using tips from WP:UPDC. Next time you have a question, feel free to drop by at my talk page - I am always willing to help! :) Alternatively, you can include  in your help request and someone will notice the message and get to you (or else you may not receive a response). You can also go at the Tea House or help desk at anytime you want - they are really friendly and helpful. For the help with infobox, do you mean an infobox about yourself or for an article? You can checkout Template:Infobox Wikipedian and WP:INFOBOX for that respectively. Let me know if you have any more questions or need help with anything. I would be glad to help! :) — Yashtalk stalk 17:04, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

More Help With Sandbox
Could I have some more help with my sandbox? The help I need is that I want to have several subsandboxes if anyone knows what I mean and I want to know how to make them. The reason why I want to make some subsandobxes is that my main sandbox is starting to get cluttered and I don't want to have it get too cluttered. I've seen people on other wikis with more than one sandbox and I just wonder how I can make ones for my various projects I've made over the past several months. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:35, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

✅ Well, I created the other sandboxes for myself a while back. With that, that issue is no longer. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 19:29, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Need Even More Help With my Sandbox/Edit request 8/2/2018
While I was able to create a few more sandboxes for my various projects, I have run into a few issues regarding pictures on election infoboxes and I haven't been able to fix them. I'll list them below,


 * On my Guns of the South Sandbox, several images are larger or smaller then they should be. On the 1864 election infobox, the pictures of Horatio Seymour and John C. Frémont are smaller then they should be. On the 1867 CSA presidential election infobox, the photo of Nathan Bedford Forrest is also too small. In addition to that, the color for the Radical Republicans for Frémont isn't showing up.


 * On my Joe Steele Sandbox, the photos Republican candidates from all six presidential elections (1932, 1936, 1940, 1944, 1948, and 1952) are too small. The photos of Herbert Hoover (1932), Alf Landon (1936), Wendell Willkie (1940), Harold Stassen (1948) and Robert Taft (1952) are all too small. The photo of Thomas E. Dewey (1944) on the other hand is positioned almost perfectly, but still needs to be adjusted slightly.

I tried fixing the images several times before, but all times have failed. Could I please have some help with those issues? I would appreciate the help very much. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:00, 2 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, it's been two months and no one has helped me or even replied. I tried figuring out the problem of why the pictures weren't lining up properly on my sandboxes, I discovered the photos were not all the same pixel sizes. I figured that was probably the cause of my issues. However, even after adjusting the sizes of the pictures, they are still messed up. Could I please have some help with this issue or at least have someone tell me what to do in this type of situation? --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:34, 21 October 2018 (UTC)


 * The other issues I pointed out two months ago are also still a concern such as the color for the Radical Republicans not showing up. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:45, 21 October 2018 (UTC)


 * ✅ Well, I was able to fix the image problem once and for all thanks to some help from the newer US Presidential Election articles where the photos of the candidates are separated differently with arrows and such (I don't know really how to describe it). The only problem now that I know of now is that the color for the Radical Republicans for John C. Frémont still isn't showing up. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 15:00, 30 December 2018 (UTC)


 * ✅ Well, I no longer have to worry about the two Guns of the South maps. Thanks to JerrySa1, the article and my GOTS infoboxes both have the appropriate maps. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:10, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Sorry it took so long to reply! Thank you very much for this barnstar award, Yash! I appreciate it very much. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 13:22, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

A belated welcome!


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 * Thanks for letting me know about that, DPL bot! I just fixed the mistake. Apparently, I must of forgotten to link Georgia to the U.S. state of Georgia. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 15:13, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Help With 1852 US Presidential Elections in Massachusetts and Vermont
When I created the articles for the 1852 Presidential Elections in Massachusetts and Vermont, the articles didn't turn out right visually. I've tried to fixed the mistakes I made by accident when I created this new article regarding the 1852 US Presidential Election in Vermont. However, the several additional edits I made haven't helped the article no matter what I did in attempt to fix it. I think the problem is that somehow, the results box somehow ended up below the reference section and the reference link for the source of the election ended by in the results section and screwed up the article. The 1852 election in New Hampshire article also got messed up when I created it, but was fixed just a little while ago (Thank you Mr.Election for fixing the page! I appreciate that very much! :) ). Could someone help me please help with my mistake? I would also appreciate that very much! --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:30, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for letting me know, DPL bot. I just fixed the mistake. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 19:10, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

No problem
If you're wondering what was wrong, I'm pretty sure that the kind of table you were using. You're welcome! --Mr.Election (talk) 13:51, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

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I see you are still not adding the required attribution, as required under the terms of the CC-by-SA license. Please have a look at as an example of how it is done. Please leave a message on my talk page if you still don't understand what to do or why we have to do it. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:27, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Diannaa, sorry it took me so long to reply! I hear you. I'll follow your directions for editing next time. By the way, the only thing I copied from the 1836 election article was the mention about Michigan being disputed during the election because it had only became a state on January 26, 1837, and had cast its electoral votes for president before that date and so on so forth with the paragraph. The other stuff about the whole election campaign was added by a user named Bc103693, only to be deleted by him later on. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 19:58, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thank you for the barnstar award, RileyBugz! I appreciate the award very much. And don't worry my friend, more presidential election articles while be created in May after I complete a months worth of editing and creating articles about alternate history, science fiction, fantasy, and locomotives. See you around and I'm looking forward to you reviewing articles I've created as well :). --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:20, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

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I redirected Superstorm to Perfect storm, the closest article that isn't a disambiguation page. Thanks for telling me by the way, DPL bot! By the way, most of the messages on my talk page will eventually be removed once my talk page becomes too clustered. See you around my friend. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:08, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

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 * JCC seems to already do this. RileyBugz 会話 投稿記録  22:39, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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 * Sorry it took me so long to reply, Anna Frodesiak. Thanks for giving me patroller rights. I appreciate that very much! I enjoy creating articles about US Presidential Elections in the inadvisable states that haven't been created yet. I was surprised on how many that weren't created! Don't worry though, more election articles will be created in July. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:29, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Tagging articles
Thanks for creating all the US presidential election by state articles. Could you possibly tag the talk pages with when you create one? I'm doing it at the moment but you are creating rather a lot! Thanks, Number   5  7  19:30, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello. Another request/reminder to to this. Thanks. Number   5  7  19:37, 31 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry it took me so long to reply, Number 57. Well, thanks for the message! By the way, I just tagged a bunch of articles to create their talk pages. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:36, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

List of Disney animated shorts
Regarding the YouTube link: YouTube videos are generally not reliable sources, and that link says nothing about where the colorized version came from. If you can't find a better source, then the information shouldn't be included. Trivialist (talk) 21:57, 7 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Trivialist, I see we you undid my revision of the List of Disney animated shorts article, you said that the redarwn version of Mickey's Choo Choo looks like someone colorized it themselves, not something Disney did; not worth mentioning here.

A few things I want to tell you. For starters,I highly doubt that someone could colorize a late 1920s cartoons by themselves. God known how long that could take! Also, the video looks too poor in quality to be colorized by that YouTuber. In addition to that, did you even see the Toon Disney logo in the bottom right corner of the screen if you watched the video? I highly doubt that logo was photoshopped in there. More likely, back in the early 2000s (as evidenced by the 2001-2004 Toon Disney logo), Toon Disney must have been airing some old Mickey Mouse cartoons and that YouTuber recorded it on VHS.

However, while doing some research, I found a website a while back called the Colorized Cartoon Database that contained some information about some black and white cartoons that have been colorized. According to the website, between 1984 and 1992, ten Mickey Mouse cartoons were colorized (the link can be found below me by the way). However, the names of the ten cartoons aren't listed. Well Trivialist, I'll do some more research and find out the origins of the colorized version of Mickey's Choo Choo. See you around.

http://calvincrowe.tripod.com/redrawn/misc.htm#

--JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:38, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

While doing some more research last night, I found out on the List of black-and-white films that have been colorized aticle here on Wikipedia that Mickey's Choo Choo was colorized by the Walt Disney company back in 1991. At least we know that Disney actually colorized this cartoon. The source that was provided on the article is this:

--JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 19:29, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

OK, that works as a source. On a side note, the Mickey's Choo-Choo article doesn't mention the colorization, so it might be worth adding there. Trivialist (talk) 21:07, 9 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I'll get to it soon Trivialist. Thanks for reminding me about that. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 14:00, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the colorized Mickey Mouse cartoons, there were also ca 30-50 computer colorized Mickey Mouse http://www.intanibase.com/oldforum/index.php?topic=1976.0 DoctorHver (talk) 22:57, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

August 2017
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 * Fine SummerPhDv2.0, I read you loud and clear. By the way, did you see the new message I left on the Looney Tunes: Back in Action talk page? On the talk page, I decided we should move the discussion that you, Trivialist, and I were having about the films competators at the box office to my talk page so we wouldn't waste space discussing the same topic over and over again. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 14:10, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Can you work something into an Article for me?

 * It's in the talk page for the 1856 US Presidential Election regarding the Union Party of Pennsylvania. I'm not sure how best to integrate that into the main article page given its scope, and I figured it might interest you as a fellow Alternate Historian. --Ariostos (talk) 15:59, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

United States presidential election, 1864 in Harry Turtledove's The Guns of the South Map Request
In Harry Turtledove's alternate history novel The Guns of the South, we learn the results from the 1864 presidential election in one of the two tables in the back of the book. While I got the information down on my sandbox, I wish I could add a map of the electoral votes from that election. Unfortunately, no such map has been made (at least on either Wikipedia or Wikimedia) to my knowledge. To anyone who sees this request, could you please attempt to make a map of the election results. I will list the information below containing which four candidates won electoral votes from whatever state they carried below. I wish anyone who decides to make this map good luck!

The states that voted for Democratic candidate Horatio Seymour were New York (33), Pennsylvania (26), Ohio (21), Indiana (13), Kentucky (11), Missouri (11), Wisconsin (8), Maryland (7), Oregon (3), and California (5). He won the election and carried these ten states with 138 electoral votes.

The states that Republican incumbent Abraham Lincoln were Maine (7), New Hampshire (5), Vermont (5), Massachusetts (12), Rhode Island (4), Connecticut (6), Michigan (8), West Virginia (5), Illinois (16), Minnesota (4), Iowa (8), and Nevada (3). Lincoln came in second place and carried 12 states with 83 electoral votes.

The other two candidates that were known to win states were Radical Republican John C. Frémont, who only won three electoral votes from Kansas and Independent George McClellan, who only won 10 electoral votes from Delaware (3) and New Jersey (7). --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:10, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Well, I spent all morning today putting the information from the table written down in a notebook. Since I will be creating an election results table om my sandbox, I'll get copy the info from my notebook to there. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:17, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Well, I finally got the information regarding both presidential elections into a notebook. I've got the popular votes, electoral votes, the states the candidate carried, and the percentage of the votes (US election only). I will attempt to create the two election results tables on my sandbox hopefully tomorrow. It's a job that will probably take up to a few hours to do. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 14:49, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Well, I guess I stretched the truth on that! Hopefully on Sunday, I can at least try to add the 1864 US Presidential Election and 1867 CS Presidential Election election templates to my talkpage before relocating it to my sandbox. I'll probably start with the US one first. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:20, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Found map
Well, I found a map of the election results on DeviantArt of all places. A user by the name of IronPiedmont1996 uploaded an election infobox regarding the Guns of the South 1864 US Presidential Election with a map. I'm not even sure how I am going to get the same map or if I am going to have to ask someone to make on for me. Anyways, a link to the election infobox and map can be found in the link below me.

https://ironpiedmont1996.deviantart.com/art/Guns-of-the-South-U-S-Election-714461828

--JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 14:28, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Confederate States presidential election, 1867 in Harry Turtledove's The Guns of the South Map Request
In Harry Turtledove's alternate history novel The Guns of the South, we learn the results from the Confederate States 1867 presidential election in one of the two tables in the back of the book. While I spent my weekend writing down information in a notebook that I'll eventually transfer over to my sandbox, I wish I could add a map of the electoral votes from that election. Unfortunately, no such map has been made (at least on either Wikipedia or Wikimedia) to my knowledge. To anyone who sees this request, could you please attempt to make a map of the election results. I will list the information below containing which four candidates won electoral votes from whatever state they carried below. I wish anyone who decides to make this map good luck!

The states that voted for Confederate Party nominee Robert E. Lee and his running mate Albert Gallatin Brown are Florida (4), Georgia (12), Kentucky (14), North Carolina (12), Tennessee (14), and Virginia (13). Lee and Brown carried 69 electoral votes from these six states.

The states that voted for Patriot Party nominee Nathan Bedford Forrest and his running mate Louis Wigfall are Alabama (11), Arkansas (6), Louisiana (8), Mississippi (9), South Carolina (8), and Texas (8). Forrest and Wigfall received 50 electoral votes from these six states.

--JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 19:55, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * I'll give the candidates a look. I might vote in this election once I understand what's going on, but I'm not making any promises. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 14:43, 4 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Dang, I completely spaced it and missed voting in the election! Oh well, I guess there's always next year. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:20, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Request for discussion at Talk:Vermont
Thank you for your interest in editing the article, Vermont. Could you look in on a question on the talk page at Talk:Vermont and give your thoughts and opinion? Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 14:14, 4 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I'll eventually take a look at it. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 14:46, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

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The Guns of the South 1864 US Presidential Election Table
Finally! I finish that United States 1864 Presidential Election table! Now that I completed it, I have now relocated it to my sandbox and deleted the table off of my talk page. There is only one problem about it though, I could not figure out the percentage for Minnesota's popular votes. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:25, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

The Guns of the South 1867 Confederate Presidential Election Table
Well, now that I completed the Confederate States presidential election of 1867 results table, I have now relocated it to my sandbox and deleted the table off of my talk page. Now with that finished and out of the way, I can really now start on the US 1864 Presidential Election table. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 15:24, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

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Ok DPL bot, the problem has been fixed. Icelandic now redirects to Icelanders on the article. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 13:50, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for letting me know about that DPL bot, but Vmavanti already fixed the linking problem before I got to it. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 14:10, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Urgent Help With Green Mountain Railroad and Vermont Railway articles!
I need some urgent help with the Green Mountain Railroad and Vermont Railway articles! When I was editing the Green Mountain Railroad articles a short while ago, I decided to add two sources to mention the fates of former units #400 and #401 after they were sold by the GMCR. However, after I completed the edit, the information about #401 somehow moved down into the reference section. I tried fixing the problem, but it didn't help at all!

As for the Vermont Railway article, this is a mistake I made a while back and for some reason hasn't been corrected. Back in July of last year, I moved #301 to the former units section of the article as that diesel was sold to GMTX in late 2015 with four other Vermont Rail System GP40s as deal for FEC SD70M-2s 431/432. That part of the edit went smooth, however, former unit #381 somehow is now clinging to the side of #301's box rather then being underneath it. I have tried several times over the past few months to fix the mistake, but all attempts have failed miserably.

Could I please have some help fixing these mistakes on those two articles? It is very distracting seeing two noticeable mistakes   on those articles and me trying and failing to fix them. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 15:40, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, Ken Gallager fixed the mistake on the Green Mountain Railroad article, so that's all set. However, the Vermont Railway article still needs that edit to fix the problem that is on that article. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 15:05, 10 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Ken Gallager also fixed the mistake on the Vermont Railway article, as well. Thank you very much for that! I'm glad that the two problems on those articles are finally fixed. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:21, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

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Problem is fixed! Sorry about that, keep forgeting that there is more than one Robert Taft. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 14:01, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

United States presidential election in Vermont, 2016
Hi JCC, Thank you for your hard work in generating the results table by county in United States presidential election in Vermont, 2016. Would you be so kind as to add a citation with a reliable source and perhaps a summary paragraph to introduce it? Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 00:20, 3 May 2018 (UTC)


 * ✅ I have just added a source. Surprisingly, the article was missing the source which most of the other presidential election in "insert state name here" articles, which is "Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections". --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 12:39, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

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Hi
This is unrelated to anything in particular, but I recently saw a couple of wikiboxes and general information in your sandbox, I'm pretty impressed with your AH skills. Would you happen to have an account on AlternateHistory.com by chance? Your wikiboxes would be best suited for the Maps and Graphics section btw. Jerry (talk) 17:32, 31 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Oh, hello Jerry. Thanks for the likes on the infoboxes. Which one is your favorite? As for having an AlternateHistory.com account, I don't but I plan one creating one eventually and I'll put them on the Alternate Wikipedia Infoboxes thread. Do you have an account on that site? It would be really nice to stay in touch both here and there once I eventually create an account. You know, I actually got influenced to make infoboxes about characters and events from Family Guy, American Dad! and South Park after looking at gap80's infoboxes based on The Simpsons. Have a nice day! :) --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:39, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I like the wikiboxes you made for the Southern Victory series the most. Personally I've only read the first two of those books, but I know what happened in the plot already because I've read timelines that involve crossovers of timelines in the user-only sections. I used to have an account on that site, but I left because I felt the mods were way too strict. I still lurk on that account but I don't plan on continuing to post my content there. (Not going to post the username because my Wikipedia name includes portions of my actual name and everything on this site is publicly searchable.) Besides that I haven't had the motivation to do any TL's and keep at doing them.


 * But yeah, nice to see another Alternate History fan on this site. I'm mostly on the mapping side (And I've gotten pretty good at that as time has gone on), so my wikibox skills aren't actually very good. Too bad I can't really apply my skills to Wikipedia because the maps here are to serve informational needs, and high-quality maps aren't necessary or are detrimental to conveying information, so I can't apply that. :/ Jerry (talk) 00:45, 2 August 2019 (UTC)


 * To be fair Jerry, the Southern Victory infoboxes aren't originally mine. They were on the Great War and Settling Accounts articles for years before I got hold of them. The ones formally on those two articles were really messy as Hell and I basically took the infoboxes, did a heavy duty clean up job on them, and then put the restored infoboxes on the articles. Oh buy the way Jerry, since you are good with maps, could you perhaps do a favor for me? In Harry Turtledove's novel The Guns of the South, the book goes into detail about two presidential elections that occur (and these details are kinda important). One is an alternate version of the 1864 United States presidential election while the other is the 1867 Confederate States presidential election. Details about those two elections can be found on the Harry Turtledove Wiki, the GOTS Wikipedia article and my Guns of the South sandbox. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 19:40, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * https://pastebin.com/ir0Avrhq

Both links to the maps are in this pastebin. If there's a problem, just tell me, and if you need any other maps, well you know who to call heh. I haven't done wikibox maps in quite a while, most of the time I make maps more like https://pasteboard.co/Ic8ZOfL.png or https://imgur.com/VK6ckWD


 * Thanks Jerry, but I have no idea what to do now. How am I suppose to add them to Wikipedia? I've never uploaded photos to Wikipedia before. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:30, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Oooo...right. I did not think of that. Usually I see wikiboxes being used for purposes outside of wikipedia so I just use inspect element for things outside of wikipedia. Though in this case, it seems that the only way to do that is uploading it on wikimedia.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1867_Confederate_Election.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Alt-1864_Union_Election.png


 * Wow! Thanks Jerry! The maps look nice. However, it looks like you messed up the placements of Lee and Forest on the Confederate Presidential election map. The map shows Lee winning Forest's states and vice versa. Lee (who won Kentucky, Tennessee, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia and Florida) should be red while Forrest (who won South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas and Texas) should be blue. Other than that, good job. Well, tomorrow, I guess I'll add both maps to my Guns of the South infoboxes and tell the guys over at the Harry Turtledove Wiki (where I also work) that some maps have become available to use. Don't worry though, I'll make sure to credit you for making the maps. If I need any more help with anything, I'll give you a ring. :) --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 23:00, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * First my sandboxes get vandalized by 111.217.48.20, then they get deleted!? This is ridiculous! I've had those sandboxes for a long time and no ones complained until now! Other people get to have more than one sandbox, why can't I!? --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 19:50, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * First my sandboxes get vandalized by 111.217.48.20, then they get deleted!? This is ridiculous! I've had those sandboxes for a long time and no ones complained until now! Other people get to have more than one sandbox, why can't I!? --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 19:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * First my sandboxes get vandalized by 111.217.48.20, and then now all of them (including my main sandbox) they get deleted!? This is ridiculous! I've had those sandboxes for a long time and no ones complained until now! Other people get to have more than one sandbox, why can't I!? Other Wikipedia users have tons of information on their sandboxes, why can't I!? --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 19:55, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * First my sandboxes get vandalized by 111.217.48.20, then they get deleted!? This is ridiculous! Compared to my other sandboxes being deleted, this one isn't a very big deal since I only had two war infoboxes located were only just there so I could clean them up and relocated them to the Great War and Settling Accounts articles, which I did a while back. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:05, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * First my sandboxes get vandalized by 111.217.48.20, then they get deleted!? This is ridiculous! Compared to my other sandboxes being deleted, this and the Southern Victory one aren't that big of a deal to me since I didn't have much there --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:10, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * You known any other good sources other than the US Election Atlas? --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:20, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * You know of any other good sources other than the US Election Atlas? --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:25, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Alright I fixed the problem. Sorry about that! --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:20, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

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I'm writing some election redirects
Hello JCC the Alternate Historian,

I have recently been creating many redirect pages for the presidential elections at the state levels. Since a majority of the state results of presidential elections have written with the exception of many early ones; this might be another "frontier" of sorts and I'm wondering if you'd like to help me out.

Also, I would like to congratulate you on many of your pages you've written for the presidential elections. Your efforts have tremendously helped with the presidential elections and keeping them better documented.

Thank you, --Skim


 * You're welcome Skim, glad to help out! :) It is kinda weird how the election articles were redirected in late 2018 but most of the links on the articles were not. Even after over a year, a lot of presidential election articles are still like that for some reason. I'm just helping out with that as much as I can one presidential election article at a time. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:29, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

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✅ Fixed! Sorry about that. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 14:05, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * The Liberating Alaska article is over two years old at this point. I'm surprised no one has complained about it until now. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 19:14, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Your plea
Re. You can remove the PROD proposal yourself, but the sources right now are very poor and the article is unlikely to survive AfD, just like dozen+ of other characters and locations from that series that already got deleted within the last month or so. But nothing is lost, this kind of stuff can be written up at https://ttte.fandom.com/wiki/Gordon_the_Big_Engine. Unfortunately, Wikipedia has policies like WP:GNG/WP:NFICTION that limit what we can have. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 00:53, 29 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Is the talk page on the Gordon article the appropriate place for debating if the article is going to be kept or not? If not, do you known the place where it can be debated and could ya link it for me so I can get to it? Also, I added two more sources to the article a couple of days, that should be enough to keep the article. I'm pretty sure five sources is enough to keep it. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:44, 29 August 2020 (UTC)


 * For a WP:PROD, it is. However, the page may be deleted if the PROD is not declined. But you are welcome to decline it yourself per WP:PROD, at which point the page may be subject to a wider discussion at WP:AFD if someone will start it (which I may, for example). Number of sources is less important than their quality. Sources need to be reliable, independent and in-depth (see WP:RS, wP:GNG). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  02:13, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Imperial units
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 * Alright Meters, I'll take your word for it. Sorry for starting that mini edit war with you. I couldn't find any sources regarding why Canada still uses miles and miles per hour on its railways. I did find a source on the Rail regulations in Canada article saying that Canadian Railways still use miles, but I don't think it's what either of us would be looking for. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:00, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

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✅ Taken care of DPL bot. Sorry about that, I always forget that there is more than one of him. The one I was looking for and meant to link was Adlai Stevenson II. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:50, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

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✅ Fixed the problem. I redirected Culloden to the Battle of Culloden. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:05, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Southern Victory discussion
Hi JCC, as one of the few editors who does a lot of work on alternate history article I wonder if you might want to make a comment at the discussion here about the Southern Victory series? I see the alt-hist project got pinged for the previous discussions but no-one seems to have responded to that. FOARP (talk) 19:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I'll go take a look FOARP. Sorry it took so long for me to reply. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:49, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

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✅ Just fixed it. Sorry about that. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:00, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks but
Thanks for adding sources to. Could you format them so they are not bare URLs? In the visual editor it's a one-click to reformat refs, or you could use a script like User:Zhaofeng Li/reFill. TIA! --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:24, 12 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I'll see what I can do. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 23:05, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Hoover Dam in popular culture for deletion
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 * Thanks for letting me know, SDZeroBot. I'll go to the discussion page and let my voice be heard. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:45, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey
Could I ask that you not create any more articles about works of fiction unless you can properly show notability by citing sources about the work's reception? Reviews (in reliable sources only - no Goodreads or anything like that), awards, nominations, etc?

"The book exists" isn't enough. DS (talk) 00:48, 4 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Dude, a lot of book articles here just have info about the plot and a few sources for references. Half the time, they don't even have info about how good or bad its reputation is. No one has complained to me about that before so please do not complain to me about it now. Also, Wikipedia articles are not going to look like masterpieces when they're first created, I can't do everything you know! If other uses want to add the book's reputation, the book cover, ect, they're perfectly welcome to. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:40, 4 July 2021 (UTC)


 * "No one has complained to me about that before" doesn't mean you're doing the right thing, it means nobody has complained about it before. You're not addressing notability. For some of these, I'm able to find sources. For others, I'm not. Similarly, "a lot of book articles here just have info about the plot and a few sources for references" isn't an excuse for producing more substandard articles on non-notable books. It's like finding an unflushed public toilet and deciding that this means you don't need to flush either.


 * For a lot of the book summaries you've written, I'd be perfectly justified in replacing them with redirects to the author's article, or even taking them to AfD. I don't want to do that. Do better. Don't write about works of fiction unless you can supply evidence of notability. Even just URLs would be better than nothing. DS (talk) 03:08, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, regarding "no one ever complained before", you were asked in February 2020 to not write articles that are purely plot summaries. DS (talk) 03:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

FantasticFiction.com is not a "source" of information, it is a website where people buy books
A Deadly Education is on my watchlist, so I noticed when you added a link to its lead to the website FantasticFiction.com. Apparently you added the same link to many other articles today as well. These look like spam links--is there something I am missing about your adding multiple links to a commercial website? HouseOfChange (talk) 02:13, 21 April 2022 (UTC)


 * So is Amazon, but people use that as a source too. Also, a good portion of the books in the links have info about the books descriptions (ei: info about the plot) in them, so it's not spam. Also, I've added links to FantasticFiction.com to various other articles before and no one has complained to me about that before until now. If it is spam, I apologize for that. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 15:10, 21 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Also, HouseOFChange, for your information, yesterday (4-20-2022), I added the link to FantasticFiction.com to only two articles while fixing the link to that said website for two other articles. I don't know what universe you come from to think that having two links to FantasticFiction.com on two separate articles is MANY. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:50, 21 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Amazon is a reliable source for INFORMATION about books such as the ISBN. FantasticFiction is somebody's commercial website and an example of WP:ELNO #5: "Individual web pages[5] that primarily exist to sell products or services." The first page of your contributions shows that 18 of your past 50 edits mentioned adding links to FantasticFiction.com. I don't have energy or expertise to argue with you about this, so I will look for a noticeboard relevant to this issue. I see that has previously tried to educate you about Wikipedia policy on this talk page and received the same no one has complained to me about that before excuse, which is not, in fact, an excuse for ignoring policy. HouseOfChange (talk) 12:46, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * FantasticFiction makes money if you buy a book through them. It's basically a sales site. Doug Weller  talk 18:18, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Well HouseOfChange and Doug Well, I guess I won't be adding anymore links to FantasticFiction.com. Oh, by the way, I also saw and replied to the ANI notice down below. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 23:30, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. It is here. HouseOfChange (talk) 13:26, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Asking as suggested at ANI, do you have a COI here -- a personal or financial connection to FantasticFiction.com? HouseOfChange (talk) 14:45, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know about the discussion that is talking about me. Should I go over there to the discussion and mention my actions?

Oh, and by the way, the answer to having a personal or financial connection to FantasticFiction.com is a big fat NO. I'm not a spammer and I don't intend to be one. I only started going to that website recently and only started adding it to Wikipedia articles as a source because some of the pages about the books have summaries so they at least provided some info. Sorry for any convenience that I may have caused.

Oh, and I heard on the discussion that you mentioned that you have Covid. I'm really sorry that you caught it --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 23:15, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the thought. Yes, the link to ANI is there to let you tell your side of the story. Glad you don't have a COI, that would be a different problem from not understanding guidelines. This is a VERY small problem to get mentioned at ANI, so please try not to be upset by it. Lots of good people end up at ANI once or twice when some cranky person, with or without covid, has tried in vain to get their attention for something. HouseOfChange (talk) 00:16, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I just replied to the thing about me on the Wikipedia noticeboard to give my two cents and apologized for my actions. I'm glad I'm not getting into huge trouble. For a second or two, I thought I was going to be blocked for a bit or banned entirely. Glad that isn't the case. Oh, by the way, what's a COI? JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 23:26, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If you are related to something you are editing about, you've got a conflict of interest. Doug Weller  talk 11:25, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Conflict of interest. Alright then Doug Weller, thanks for telling me the definition. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:55, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Liberating Alaska


The article Liberating Alaska has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Can't find any evidence of notability"

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 * Thanks for letting me know about this, Doug Weller. I guess I'll go over to that article in a little bit and give my two cents about the proposed deleting of Liberating Alaska. Oh, by the way, do you know who to archive talk pages? I'm asking this because my talk page is starting to get very long and crowded. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:45, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Alright Doug Weller. Yesterday, I added my thoughts about the proposed deletion of the Liberation Alaska article on the article's talk page. On the talk page, I mentioned that the article shouldn't be deleted entirely, but instead redirected to the Harry Turtledove bibliography article. However, it looks like the deletion tag on the page was removed by Espresso Addict, who saw my comment on the talk page. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:19, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Can you find anything satisfying WP:NBOOK? If not, it should be as you suggest redirected. Thanks. Doug Weller  talk 09:47, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I take a look around for some other sources about Liberating Alaska. However, given that it's a short-story and not an actual book, it may be a bit difficult. If I'm unable to find anything good to use as a source, I guess it will be best to just redirected that article to the Harry Turtledove bibliography article. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:50, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Election Day (short story) for deletion
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 * Thanks for telling me this, theleekycauldron. Since I'm the one who created the article, I should probably go over to the discussion page and give my two cents about this. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:45, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Alternate Generals for deletion
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 * Thanks for letting me know, SDZeroBot. I got the notice yesterday and just went over to the discussion and gave my opinion. Is it just me, or is it every time I turn around, another article that I created or contributed a lot on gets marked for deletion? JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * hey, I know how it feels to have your articles nominated for deletion. It is... quite crappy to see your handiwork get dangled above the shredder. I've had two articles I wrote deleted, and a third spawned a contentious discussion before coming to a "keep" close. I hope you're not too discouraged by it—your writing is definitely quality :) When you look around for topics to write about, you'll want to be sure that they meet the inclusion guidelines—the key is to see how much you can write using only the secondary sources available on the topic. If you can put together a substantial article without using original research, unreliable sourcing, or synthesization, you've probably got a notable topic on your hands! But if you find that most of what you've got is plot summary/boilerplate stats, then the topic probably isn't ready for pagespace yet. It can take a long time to figure out what works; but if you get that down, you'll be writing lots of GAs and FAs in no time.  It doesn't look like Turtledove's creations are the most notable; but it seems like you're interested in U.S. politics. There are lots of state legislators with the potential for substantial articles; why not start there? Or go bigger, for U.S. representatives and senators. You could even get yourself a subscription to newspapers.com through the Wikipedia library and find new people to write about there. The sky's the limit if you know where to look! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 02:27, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for telling me this, theleekycauldron. Sorry to hear about two of your own articles being deleted. Is it just me, or has Wikipedia gotten a lot more strict over the years?
 * For US politics though, I usually just stay to the presidential elections. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 23:05, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅ I fixed the issue. Sorry about that. I forget sometimes that there's more than one Bobby Hill. Thanks for letting me know about my mistake. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 15:35, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

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You need to stop
I've just reverted about 10 of your recent edits which were completely unsourced. Please note that Wikipedia does not accept original research. Please stop. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:33, 27 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Alright then. I should note that some of this is not my fault. Some things might have info on one article that contradicts something on another article. If I have caused any convivence, I apologize.
 * If it's alright with you, Magnolia677, could I readd some of that info to the articles with sources? For example, if I add a source for the Grace Cottage Hospital for Townshend, Vermont, would that be okay?
 * By the way, either you or I should probably edit the article for the Brattleboro Memorial Hospital to mention the right amount of beds (61, not 62) and that source you mentioned when you undid my edit on the Brattleboro, Vermont article. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 00:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Magnolia677, it looks like the article for the Brattleboro Memorial Hospital had the same source as the Brattleboro article after all. I fixed the amount of beds and corrected the number from 62 to 61.
 * Oh, by the way, do you know how to archive talk page?. Mine is getting pretty long and I noticed that other users have archived talk pages of their own. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 01:00, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Magnolia677, thanks for fixing the link to the source on the Brattleboro Memorial Hospital article. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 23:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024
Please do not add or change content, as you did at List of hospitals in Vermont, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:41, 28 January 2024 (UTC)


 * You're talking about the info I added about the Rockingham Memorial Hospital, right? Alright, I'll try to find a source or two to back up my reverted edit. Does Wikipedia allow info from Google Books to be used as a source? What I mean is that the info I put down about the Rockingham Memorial Hospital that you undid came from two books that might be on Google Books. One is Images of America: Around Bellows Falls (which I have a physical copy of) and the other is the History of Rockingham, Vermont: 1907-1957. If I can find them on Google Books, can they be used as sources on the article? JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 23:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Townshend, Vermont, you may be blocked from editing. 'With this edit you wrote that this was "the smallest hospital in the state of Vermont", citing this source. This was not support by the source cited.' Magnolia677 (talk) 23:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * To be fare though, with only 19 beds, Grace Cottage is the smallest hospital in the state of Vermont with the amount of patients it can have at a time. However, I do see what you mean. I'm sorry for that mistake. By the way, did you read the replies I left for you either here or on your talk page, Magnolia677?
 * Oh, by the way, I good good news and bad news about the Google Books source I mentioned. The good news is that Images of America: Around Bellows Falls is on Google Books itself. The bad news is that only the first 30 pages are viewable previews and that info about Rockingham Memorial Hospital is on pages 37 and 38. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 00:15, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Good news Magnolia677, I was able to add one of the sources after all. Specifically the book Images of America: Around Bellows Falls, Rockingham, Westminster and Saxtons River. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:45, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * Sorry about that. I must have forgotten to put (state) when I tried to link to New York. Anyway, @Onel5969 fixed the linking error. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Whale
Please refer to a certain list, which you improved the stylistic consistency of in 2021. Your services to retrocausal wildlife conservation have been acknowledged by the WWF and IUCN. EnronEvolvedMy Talk Page 19:28, 7 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'll go take a look. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

1789 Virginia election
I know it's been years since you made the article, but where does the 3,040 Federalist/1,293 Anti-Federalist number come from in the 1788–89 United States presidential election in Virginia article? Wowzers122 (talk) 22:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * It probably came from the actual 1788-89 United States presidential election article years ago back when I created the 1788-89 United States presidential election in Virginia article. The info might have been inaccurate, so I apologize for that if it was, but info on both articles have long since been changed and corrected. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 23:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Justinian (novel)


The article Justinian (novel) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "almost 9 years later, I do not believe this meets the notability guidelines for a book. Although the author is often discussed and interviewed, this pen name and novel has not been covered as far as I can tell except by a few blogs."

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 * You had some recent edits JCC, if you are interested in trying to find good sources for this thought I would notify you of this proposed deletion! Gnisacc (talk) 19:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't necessary call my five edits from 2020 to 2022 recent edits, but I did edit the page five times over those two years. However, I'll see if I can find any sources for Justinian. I did add a source, but removed it later on because I got complaints that it wasn't reliable. If I or anyone else can find a good source, the article will probably get deleted or redirected. I'll also go over to the deletion proposal page to give my opinion. JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:55, 19 July 2024 (UTC)