User talk:JIP/Archive 37

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Proposed deletion of Road Wars (toyline)


The article Road Wars (toyline) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline and the more detailed Notability_(organizations_and_companies) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. Given the near total lack of references (outside fan page), there is no content to merge and anyway there is no valid merge/redirect target I see. If you disagree and deprod this, please explain how it meets them on the talk page here in the form of 'This article meets criteria A and B because...' and ping me back through WP:ECHO or by leaving a note at User talk:Piotrus. Thank you."

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Your help desk response
Referring to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2021_January_30#Is_it_okay_if_references_on_a_article_aren%E2%80%99t_archived? this question], You said, "Physical references such as books and newspapers don't expire". If only that were true. There may very well be a few cases where the last known copy of something has disappeared. I discovered too late to do anything about it that certain sections of a newspaper weren't microfilmed. And, yes, I used articles from those sections as sources because I printed out the online version, but if anyone ever investigates they can claim something like Photoshop.

And to my knowledge my printout and copies I sent people who could preserve them are the only known copies. I found a site that had most of the other articles of that type -- and they deleted them! Said the man wasn't a staff writer for the newspaper. Never mind that they still have about 30 of his articles.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  22:26, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Operations of KFC


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Your contributed article, Operations of KFC


Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Operations of KFC. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – KFC. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at KFC. If you have new information to add, you might want to discuss it at the article's talk page.

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Supporting myself
Thank you for your comment on my supporting my request to move Konigsburg. I had thought that it was appropriate for me to support my own proposal, to make it easy to count those pro and contra. Is this something one should not do? Best wishes, ♥ L'Origine du monde ♥  ♥ Talk ♥
 * You're more than welcome to add comments to your own move discussion and to reply to comments left by others. My point was that you do not need to write "Support." in a comment in your own move discussion. People already know you're supporting the move, otherwise you would not have proposed it. J I P  &#124; Talk 17:43, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Bra sausage barnstar banter

 * You're welcome. J I P  &#124; Talk 10:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Creating List of unarmed African Americans killed by law enforcement officers in the United States
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DYK for Keihäsmatkat
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Ilmari Laukkonen
Hi, further to our conversation on the help desk I have found a pdf of a 2012 issue of Sotaveteraani • Krigsveteranen at https://sotaveteraani.fi/lehdet/SV%206_2012.pdf. On page 29 it says (via Google translate) "Ilmari Laukkonen, a TK man who wrote a relevant article for Korven Kaiku magazine on 23 October 1942. He was the editor-in-chief of Vaasa magazine from 1951 to 1980. Ilmari Laukkonen was born on 6 January 1915 and still lives in Vaasa and is well". This confirms that the editor Ilmari Laukkonen was previously a TK man. TSventon (talk) 11:52, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * If that's the case, then the question of the image's copyright status is complicated, as Ilmari Laukkonen has only been dead for 8 years, not 70 (as required for the image to fall into the public domain). J I P  &#124; Talk 12:10, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You could investigate Finnish copyright law, see for example the licensing rationale for commons:File:An_immobilized_Red_Army_IS-2_tank_in_Tammisuo.jpg. TSventon (talk) 12:45, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The licence information on that page says: This photograph is in the public domain in Finland, because either a period of 50 years has elapsed from the year of creation or the photograph was first published before 1966. The photograph of Arnold Majewski is certainly over 50 years old. It was taken on 10 October 1942, almost 79 years ago. And according to Sotaveteraanit magazine, it is also in the SA-arkisto archives. J I P  &#124; Talk 12:51, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I was going to suggest Media copyright questions, but you got there first. TSventon (talk) 13:16, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Creating List of unarmed African Americans killed by law enforcement officers in the United States


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 20:19, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Siberian Finnish
Hi, the article which mentions Zlobina and Nirvi is here. DuncanHill (talk) 21:25, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Ingrian Finnish
Couldn't find the thank button, so I thought I'll drop it off personally! Thank you for the fix, I'm not very good at Finnish, but letting the example stay without translation seemed to defeat the purpose, so I did my best... Thanks for fixing it! Thadh (talk) 20:01, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

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 * Hello, I have fixed the article and I believe its ready to review. I think its on its way pending a review but I would appreciate if you can have a second look and advise if I can improve it, thank you. Rainbouw19 (talk) 18:16, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I think I ended up here by accident. Thanks for the tips. Should I remove this entire section(clutter)? Or is this something expected from the owner of this page (you) to prune on their good time? Thanks

DYK for Plevna, Tampere
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Speedy deletion nomination of Savoy (restaurant)
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Nomination of Savoy (restaurant) for deletion
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Nomination of Ventoura (marketplace) for deletion
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Removal of CSD tag from Savoy (restaurant)
Hi JIP - I happened to stumble upon Savoy (restaurant), an article you created a few days ago. When browsing the history, I noticed that tagged the article as a G11, which you then later removed. This is contrary to policy, as "the creator of a page may not remove the deletion tag from it". Could you please explain why you did?

Unrelated, on coming here to leave you this message, I took a look at Ventoura (marketplace) and have deleted it. I do not expect an editor of 16 years to publish something so blatantly promotional and unsourced. I'm now going to review your other contributions. ~TNT (she/her • talk) 07:13, 10 October 2021 (UTC)


 * A quick glance through your creations shows another CSD removal from an article you've created, and a fair few unsourced mainspace creations (e.g. Brainstorm (board game)). I'm sure there's a good explanation that I'm just not seeing, and I'd be pretty keen to hear it. As administrators, we must try to hold ourselves to higher standards. ~TNT (she/her • talk) 07:39, 10 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Savoy (restaurant) is one of the most notable restaurants in Helsinki and has had a Finnish article for years. I failed to understand how my article was promotional. The deletion discussion did not receive any delete votes and was withdrawn. Ventoura (marketplace) was split off from Ventoura which had become a Frankenstein article, claiming Ventoura was two different, unconnected things simultaneously. I created Operations of KFC after seeing the "Operations" section of KFC took up the vast majority of the article, so I split it off to a separate article. Someone put the article up for speedy deletion in the middle of this, before I had had the time to remove the duplicated material from the main article KFC. J I P  &#124; Talk 13:24, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of DoubleDuck


The article DoubleDuck has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline requirement nor the more detailed Notability (fiction) supplementary essay. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. If you disagree and deprod this, please explain how it meets them on the talk page here in the form of 'This article meets criteria A and B because...' and ping me back through WP:ECHO or by leaving a note at User talk:Piotrus. Thank you."

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DYK for Haukilahti water tower
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Nomination of DoubleDuck for deletion
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Nomination of Free (gratis) beer for deletion
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Split revisit
Hi, JIP, posting here in case you dont see pings as readily as Talk page updates. Please see Draft talk:Dinobot (Beast Wars) if you have a second. Thanks! -2pou (talk) 19:35, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Minttu nomination
Hello,

Your nomination lacks one citation before it can be approved. As soon as that is supplied, it will be eligible for DYK. Interesting article.Georgejdorner (talk) 00:37, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "lacks one citation"? J I P  &#124; Talk 01:04, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see, there is a "citation needed" tag for the Minttu product line. I found this page at Pernod Ricard's official site for Minttu, displaying the current product line. I can add this to the article. J I P  &#124; Talk 03:41, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Please do. It's all that is needed for the nom to pass.Georgejdorner (talk) 23:44, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! The nom is GTG.Georgejdorner (talk) 01:47, 17 December 2021 (UTC)