User talk:JIP/Archive 5

Colours in your signature
Your signature has colours how do I do that??? --Adam1213 17:02, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I use a "font" HTML tag with a "color" attribute. Write  before the text you want in colour and   after it. The "#rrggbb" part is a # sign followed by three two-digit hexadecimal values, rr means red, gg means green, and bb means blue. If you don't know how hexadecimal works or don't want to try out various combinations, some well-recognised colour names like "red", "green", "blue", "yellow", "brown", "gray"/"grey", etc. also work (but then you don't use the # sign). &mdash; J I P  | Talk 17:30, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

thanks for your comments  &#9786; A  d a m 1213  &#9786; | talk  16:38, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I have a way of adding signatures to vandalism templates. to speed warning users up. Will you support it
 * I have never actually got around to using the vandalism templates. Perhaps I should take the time to learn about them. But anyway, what's wrong with simply writing ~ after the template? It doesn't take many seconds. &mdash; J I P | Talk 16:41, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Look it just speeds up the job. Vandalism needs to be removed as fast as possible. I did not know about colourful signatures until I had seen your own. I noticed that I can add a 3rd link to mine I wanted to have it as add a new section to my talk page but there was some problem. Do you know how I could get it to work?
 * Sorry, no I don't. &mdash; J I P | Talk 16:54, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

By the way your signature is good but you should highlight it  &#9786; A  d a m 1213  &#9786; | talk  17:56, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I like my signature just like it is. &mdash; J I P | Talk 18:46, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Qaz's RFA
Thanks for your vote in support of me. I like your sig the way it is too :) Qaz  ( talk ) 11:06, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!
A big thank you for your help and support, I look forward to meeting you in more productive contexts, Yours, Trollderella 23:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Deleting Articles
Hello, I would have preferred to email you concerning your misinformed deletion of my page, but you have specified no such email. My creation of the penis-showing game page was not nonsense as the craze is sweeping college campuses nationwide. The word "shizzle" for instance, is nonsense, but to claim a page shouldn't exist because of this is baseless. A better claim would have been it being stupid and/or derogatory, both of which would also have been poor reasons for deletion. The movie "The Aristocrats" is both, yet a page dedicated to it has been formed. So, if a game such as tic tac toe can have a page, then surely so can a nonsensical, stupid, and derogatory game. Thank you. - aghazi@ucdavis.edu

While we're at it, "Wiking Off" is a legit term!.... as is "Wik Off"!....

as in: "My client didn't show up, so I'm going to wik off for the next 45 minutes."

Please undelete "Wiking Off". It is catching on rapidly in the cubicle-office community. Besides, the term is GOOD for Wikipedia. It implies that people can get as engrossed in Wikipedia as the can in doing.... well.... other things. UNDELETE IT, or you will look like a jerk later when many more people write to you and confirm that this is a legitimate term.

...... originally (11 October) posted to JIP's user page by 67.125.225.209


 * In future, please post questions on user talk pages, not user pages.
 * If you'd like to have a page undeleted, this is the place. You'll have to be very persuasive: "If you don't undelete it, you will look like a jerk later" won't wash. -- Hoary 06:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I have opened the VfU discussions on the anon user's behalf and voted keep deleted myself. Thanks for your help, Hoary. &mdash; J I P | Talk 06:41, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

JIP, I believe that the "wiking off" was meant as a sarcastic comment on my page. I believe someone was attempting to defend you by using name-calling and capitals. Both of these methods are immature and do not further any point. Futhermore, no real defense is presented by the user to keep my page deleted. I thank you for forwarding my page to the appropriate place and I hope we can proceed amicably. Thank you again. - aghazi@ucdavis.edu

Adminship
Wow! Thank you very much! If you think I'm ready, then I'll certainly accept. Thanks, H e rmione1980 13:35, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

the template does work... try it -- &#9786; A  d a m 1213  &#9786; | talk  03:44, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * So it appears to. Adam1213, in the future please start a new titled section when you start a new topic on my user talk page. Thanks. &mdash; J I P | Talk 04:39, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: Greetings
Greetings, Aluion. You are the first person I've seen to claim a near-native Klingon language skill. Have you studied it for long? &mdash; J I P | Talk 10:44, 11 October 2005 (UTC)


 * It's the amount of effort I've dedicated to studying it than the length of time.


 * I'm a closet Trekkie (though sometimes I drift over to the Dark Side and watch Star Wars). Studying languages and communicating in different languages is also one of my favorite pastimes. I also have a soft spot for constructed languages, and have written several pages on the topic.


 * tlhIngan Hol combines two of my hobbies together, so I'm more intrested in learning it than normal (as I was with Quenya/Sindarin due to my enjoyment of Tolkien's works). Having studied it so much -- the only thing that really keeps me from being a native speaker is birthright. (c;
 * --Aluion 04:42, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support on my RfA!
Thanks for your support of my adminship!! I was surprised at the turnout and support I got! If you ever have any issues with any of my actions, please notify me on my talk page! Thanks again! Ryan Norton T 04:16, 13 October 2005 (UTC) Clever! I just didn't understand it :\. The only other language I have the slightest grasp on is japanese (even then don't understand much :\) :) Ryan Norton T 10:11, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, the comment I wrote on my support vote was in Finnish, and said that I strongly oppose your adminship, because it would lead to people having to clean up after your acts of abuse of adminship. It was a jocular test to see whether people actually read everything people write in RfA's. Of course I was supporting your adminship despite what I actually wrote. &mdash; J I P | Talk 07:26, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Your sig
I just thought I'd mention that everytime I see your sig it reminds me of an American brand of peanut butter by the brandname of Jif. No offense meant of course, it's just that the letters in your username being so close to "Jif" and the colors used remind me of it. This also made me wonder if anyone else ever pointed this out to you. Dismas|(talk) 16:29, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. No, no one has ever mentioned that to me before. In fact, I had never heard of this "Jif" brand of peanut butter before. I'll check the article out. &mdash; J I P | Talk 16:31, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Interesting that nobody had pointed it out before. It's a fairly popular brand, I'd say one of the top two.  The article doesn't show the label but if you go to the company's web site you can see the colors.  Dismas|(talk) 19:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

they work... try it will sign for you... -- &#9786; A  d a m 1213  &#9786; | talk  03:38, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Could I make it so that if you have Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been removed or reverted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks.

-- &#9786; A  d a m 1213  &#9786; | talk  04:30, 14 October 2005 (UTC) it comes up with the regarding article... but if you have  Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been removed or reverted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks.

-- &#9786; A  d a m 1213  &#9786; | talk  04:30, 14 October 2005 (UTC) it does not? if you dont know who would?... -- &#9786; A  d a m 1213  &#9786; | talk  04:30, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

I did

I am not trying to annoy you, but you are trying to annoy me
I pressed + every time I edited your talk page. I did not put in a subject. But I did what you said. How would blocking me help thats the dumbest reason to block someone reason: My instructions were not specific you were already following them and I just want to block you.
 * Sorry about the block, but I was a little irritated. You appear to have read what I wrote and are using the "+" button correctly now, so I won't bother you about it any more. Again, sorry about such drastic measures. &mdash; J I P | Talk 05:14, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

RE:
I am angry with you you baned me for doing nothing wrong -- &#9786; A  d a m 1213  &#9786; | talk  05:27, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I understand that. I hope you'll not stay angry for me. I am sorry about the block but I had been irritated. If you want, you can file a complaint about me at the administrators' noticeboard. &mdash; J I P | Talk 05:29, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Block of Adam
No problem. It was perhaps outside policy, but you understand your mistake (and every sysop, myself included, has made at least one sysop-related mistake). Pakaran 05:34, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Erm, Pakaran, could you yourself add a new topic subject? Thanks. &mdash; J I P | Talk 05:35, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Sure thing ;) -- Pakaran 12:51, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

my rfa
I dont exactly understand your comment on my rfa -- &#9786; A  d a m 1213  &#9786; | talk  06:47, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I was only trying to say that I don't feel you have enough experience on Wikipedia to be an admin just yet. &mdash; J I P | Talk 06:51, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

More RFA thanks...
Thank you for supporting me. I'll try to only do a little bit of evil. :) Wikibofh 00:15, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

question about your comments on my RfA
"Oppose. I do not normally oppose for editcountitis reasons, but this is an exceptional case. Only 40 edits, of which the vast majority are to his own userspace? That is clearly too few. — JIP | Talk 05:24, 14 October 2005 (UTC)"

I was wondering what edits had to do with the adminship I requested? not to mention, like I said in half of the articles I started under my userspace, that the only reason why they aren't in the main namespace is because wikibooks is too big of a mess right now and I don't have time to clean it up on top of my studies. I don't mean to be rude or anything, but I'm just curious what any of that had to do with my basic understandings of the rules and just asking for admin for the specific purpose of being able to quickly revert vandalism when applicable (which doesn't matter at this point as I got the proper script from other admins) and to ban spammers. It often occurs in #wikipedia-en-vandalism where the same user or IP address blanks/adds a ton of useless text to ~20 different pages, but because people who do the reverts are trying to go after more vandalism and don't have the time to edit his discussion page they get left to keep on doing it. I just wanted access to stop that before it happens. The other thing I wanted to be able to do is delete the pages that come up that can't even qualify to be a revert, what good are those?

Please let me know why my lack of edits would affect my knowledge of how the process works when I monitor all mailing lists and talk to many people, both on irc, on the phone, and in person at wikimania all related to Wikipedia. (Preferably my userspace, but I'll try and monitor this) --AppleBoy Talk 06:54, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Celestianpower is an admin
JIP, what more can I say but you 've always impressed me and thank you very much for your support - my bid (as you probably know) went swimmingly. I couldn't have asked for a better one. Thank you very much and I just hope I don't mess up! --Cel e stianpower hablamé 12:45, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

SIGFUD
In reference to the replies to Reference_desk/Science. Why ask the question what SIGFUD is when you were the original author of the SIGFUD article?. This is especially worrying as there is some consensus that this article is a hoax. I'm sure there is a good explanation for this that I have missed, but can you clean this mess up and Vfd the article or even speedy delete if you see fit. Thanks Majts 21:12, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: Wiki kiwi
yeah, every now and again I hear that :) Doesn't make it any easier to type it though! (And you're Finn who speaks Klingon??? Yikes!) Grutness...  wha?  06:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, I don't speak much Klingon. Finnish pronunciation is so simple and easy that I have trouble learning any other pronunciation, especially Klingon. I do know the basics of Klingon grammar, but remembering the vocabulary can be a bit hard. &mdash; J I P | Talk 06:50, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: Fairly Stupid User Award
Yeah, the award was stupid, not the user ;-). Still though, since you gave me a chuckle from your comment, I'm awarding you my pet bear. If you feed him Barnstars, he'll ride around on a motorcycle. Karmafist 15:36, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Span statements around comments on RfAs
With all due respect, the span statements around your comments on RfAs such as this one are a bit visually annoying. Further, now User:Firefox is taking after you. I don't see that these boxes around your comments add any information, and I think they are a distraction and a detraction. Would you please explain these? It can only get worse :) --Durin 18:17, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Durin! Did you think we would succumb to such a hopeless ruse? HA HA HA! Ha... Actually, I'd been wondering when people would notice it. See Transformers (comic) or Thunderwing for an explanation. Or for further resources. It was all a joke. Saying "we" instead of "I" in the green-bordered span should have been a giveaway. &mdash; J I P  | Talk 18:51, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * If you get the cultural reference, yes. If not, no. --Durin 19:11, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Cool3
Hi, User:Cool3 has been nominated for adminship by a 'new' user see: Cool3 but it is not listed on the main Wikipedia admin nominations bored. Bwfc 21:51, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
I just wanted to say thank you for your support of my admin nomination. I look forward to the time when our Wikipedia paths, blended in amity, cross once again. &mdash;Wayward Talk 05:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Savusavu
Please stop inserting your irrelevant information in the Savusavu article. What a word of the same name means in Finnish is totally irrelevant to the topic of the article. I am keeping an eye on the article, and will keep on removing it. Throwing that kind of irrelevance into Wikipedia articles only trivializes the project. David Cannon 10:15, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * As I said in the edit summary, I have added similar comments to other articles, such as Nicolette Palikat and Mahakala, and AFAICR they have not been removed. So I thought the comment would be fine in Savusavu too. &mdash; J I P | Talk 10:19, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Shdw Main Page
As usual, the shadow main page that I keep trying to make gets deleted again. Almost immediately. Why?!?!?!?!?

Because it is often vandalised, I know the main page is protected. However, sometimes there are silly errors in it eg wrong spelling/grammar. So why cant I have an editable shadow main page?
 * Because it would serve no purpose. The only reason the main page serves is to be the first thing a user sees when he/she goes to "http://en.wikipedia.org". Your "shadow main page" does not have that purpose, because the user would have to know about its existence beforehand and type "Shdw Main Page" into the search box. I know the difference is that the main page is protected and the shadow main page is not, but as edits in the shadow main page don't show up at the main page, or vice versa, they don't really seem to have anything to do with each other. Also, creating a "shadow main page" in the main article namespace is definitely wrong - it would then be an article about something called a "Shdw Main Page". If you really insist on a shadow main page, you can create it in your own userspace. &mdash; J I P | Talk 12:05, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

RE: AfD voting
That was an error on my part. I keep the AFD page open in one tab and do my votes in a second tab. I hadn't noticed that the Mass murder AFD discussion was closed. -- howcheng  [ talk &#149; contribs &#149; web ] 17:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. &mdash; J I P | Talk 17:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for nominating me for adminship; I really appreciate it! I will do my best to live up to the trust you've shown in me. Thanks, H e rmione1980 18:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks for supporting my RfA. I will use my new powers wisely! --Wikiacc (talk) 19:11, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Cyberjunkie's RfA
Hi JIP! Just wanted to thank you for supporting my RfA - I found your vote quite amusing. I hope I will be able to live up to the confidence placed in me. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 05:02, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

MediaWiki
Well I just protected MediaWiki:Anontalkpagetext tonight, and MediaWiki:Newuserloglog the other day. The one I was "complaining" about :) is MediaWiki:Uploadtext because they removed all of the image help links, and made it a color which is hard to read. I mentioned this on the talk page, where a few of them talked about the changes. I have still been going through the rest of them making sure they are protected. I didn't protect that one yet though. &laquo;&raquo; Who ? &iquest; ? meta  07:55, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

a heads-up on the List of Guantanamo Bay detainees
Greetings,

Since you voted to keep the article List of Guantanamo Bay detainees I thought I would give you a "heads-up". A copyright violation was filed against the article, on October 11th. It was filed by someone who had voted to delete the article on October 5th.

I believe that the copyright violation is entirely bogus. I believe it is bogus because, as explained in Feist Publications v. Rural Telephone Service, lists of facts, like lists of names, cannot be copyright. This Feist v. Rural case went all the way to the US Supreme Court, which made the possibly counter-intuitive ruling that the amount of effort someone put in to compiling a list plays no role in determining whether that list is eligible for copyright protection.

Even if alphabetic lists of names could be copyright, I believe the wikipedia list would not be violating copyright since the list was compiled from various sources.

Yes, I have considered that this user invoked a bogus copyright violation to achieve a result that failed in the {AfD}. Yes, I asked them to terminate the copyright violation process, in light of Feist v Rural. They declined. The backlog in the administrators dealing with copyright violations seems to be on the order of a month long.

Anyhow, I wanted the people who had shown interest in the article to not freak out, or feel betrayed, by seeing the copyright violation tag. -- Geo Swan 11:38, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

AfD
Hi, with only 2 votes, i'm not sure i've listed this properly - Articles for deletion/Chuckie's First Haircut - Please let me know. - Bwfc 18:34, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
 * You wrote the AfD debate correctly but forgot to add it into an AfD listing. I've added it to today's AfD listing. &mdash; J I P | Talk 06:47, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks - Bwfc 10:42, 20 October 2005 (UTC)