User talk:Jadephx

Felix Gerritzen
Hi. I saw you changed Felix Gerritzen's place of birth from Münster to Oldenburg (link). Do you have a source for that? I just added his worldfootball.net profile to the article and it has Münster. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 09:02, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I transferred the information from the German page, and just now I did a quick search. He started his career in Oldenburg, but the parents might have moved early.
 * This is the source cited by that page: https://web.archive.org/web/20140301190113/http://www.westfalen-initiative.de/files/laudatio_auf_felix_gerritzen.pdf (couldn't get the webarchive template to work here correctly)
 * I now found these things:
 * List of German biographies: https://www.deutsche-biographie.de/sfz053_00361_1.html -> says 1927 in Oldenburg, source date unclear (might stem from wikipedia, though)
 * German newspaper article: https://www.wn.de/Sport/Lokalsport/Preussen-Muenster/Felix-Fiffi-Gerritzen-Vom-Dribbler-zum-Koenig-der-Herzen -> says 1927 in Oldenburg, written 2014
 * Short notice of the DFB on his death: https://www.dfb.de/news/detail/ex-nationalspieler-felix-gerritzen-verstorben-11567/ -> says born in Münster, written 2007
 * German newspaper article: https://www.wn.de/Sport/Lokalsport/Preussen-Muenster/2007/07/Preussen-Muenster-Portraet-Felix-Fiffi-Gerritzen -> says 1927 in Münster, written 2007
 * Transcript of death notice: https://familienanzeigen.genealogy.net/detailstod.php?ID=801412&PID=807 -> says 1927 in Münster, notice written 2007
 * German local history page: ttps://www.alt-oldenburg.de/oldenbuerger/oldenburger-sportler/felix-fiffi-gerritzen/index.html -> says 1927 in Oldenburg, source date unclear, possibly in 2021
 * So the information is conflicted, and while I would favor the Oldenburg birth, I don't know a definite source for either place. :What probably happened is that most of the newspapers and profile pages just copied the place from somewhere. I'm not sure how to proceed here.
 * --Jadephx (talk) 09:41, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the extensive research. That indeed makes things quite difficult. Of the source you have listed, I'd reckon the WN newspaper and the DFB website are the most reliable sources. Pity the two WN articles contradict each other. Hm… Robby.is.on (talk) 10:50, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Sadly, the DFB website does not state their sources. The local history page gives a number of books that were used, but those are probably only accessible via a regional library. I think one of newspaper articles noted some researcher, maybe he knows of other sources? --Jadephx (talk) 12:46, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you mean the sources from https://www.alt-oldenburg.de/oldenbuerger/oldenburger-sportler/felix-fiffi-gerritzen/fiffi-gerritzen-nationalspieler--seite-3-von-3.html ? If they're in Oldenburg, I should be able to access them. :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 21:32, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I just looked those up in the catalog of Landesbibliothek Oldenburg, and they are all available there. The book of Heinz Arndt seems also to be available in the Stadtbibliothek... but you will manage to get those, and they're only apart five minutes walk anyway ;-) --Jadephx (talk) 06:11, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll have a look. Robby.is.on (talk) 08:41, 8 June 2021 (UTC)