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Category:User asm-4
Please note that I have corrected the terminology in Category:User asm-4 to correctly reflect the formal name of assembly language. Assembly is not a grammatically correct alternative to assembly language. Assembly is a process, whereas assembly language is what is being processed by the assembler. Bigdumbdinosaur (talk) 21:04, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Nowrap template
Please stop replacing nowrap template with non-breaking spaces in Comparison of tablet computers. There are two main reason why nowrap is used instead of nbsp: Hakimio (talk) 19:49, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It is easy to understand what it represents and makes text more readable
 * Robots and dumb people keep removing non-breaking space and hyphen characters all the time
 * Interesting idea. I had not considered these aspects of the issue before. I shall make this a part of my practice. Is it included anywhere in the Style Manual? Thank you. Jerryobject (talk) 05:59, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Brevity
Brevity is not always the soul of wit - see this discussion. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:30, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

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Template:English dialects by continent
Hi, Jerryobject. I was wondering why you felt a comma was better than a slash in giving two side-by-side alternative names for the same dialect on Template:English dialects by continent. Thanks. Wolfdog (talk) 01:17, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Good day Wolfdog. When you read my edit note to that template, did you see the link embedded in it, pointing to the part of the Manual of Style governing use of WP:SLASHes? That should answer your question in as much detail as you need. After studying that material, if you have any more questions, please post them here, and I will do my best to try to explain further.


 * Regarding your editor handle, I like the way you worked to achieve higher canine generality, and arrange matters in correct temporal order. ;-)


 * Thanks. Have a productive day. Jerryobject (talk) 07:11, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Jerryobject. I see that a slash is not recommended. I'm still wondering if there is a better punctuation mark than a comma to represent the equality of different terms. Maybe just the simple word "or"? Wolfdog (talk) 17:59, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Slashes are dismal. Commas are fine delimiters. What about a semicolon? Jerryobject (talk) 06:16, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Semicolons sound perfect. I'll make the changes. Thanks! Wolfdog (talk) 02:06, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

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Maxthon
Hi.

It is possible that you might be shocked with a revert notice in your notifications.

Don't panic. It was a partial revert.

Well, that ... and WikiEditor suddenly decided to cut me short while I was typing the edit summary and save the page on its own.

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Maxthon (redux)
Hi.

It would be GREAT idea if you actually look at your own edits. Here: Before your edit, after your edit

I hope you can see what's wrong.

Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 06:35, 2 May 2017 (UTC)


 * I see it all too clearly. Wow! I erred. Got it. I was wrong. That is horrible of me, and highly embarrassing. I always check my edits very carefully using, but sometimes accidentally forget to use  . This occurs more when I am tired, which as you suggest, is "CARELESS", but it usually doesn't matter. This time it did. I'm getting better at this, but must be more attentive.


 * Thank you for catching that, seriously.


 * However, what about the programming languages in which Maxthon is written? Clearly, any program which incorporates WebKit, or Trident, must contain large blocks of C++ source code, or machine code compiled therefrom. This is unavoidable. Since Maxthon includes WebKit and Trident, it is written, at least partly, in C++; maybe with different code formating standards in the WebKit code because it is through Apple, versus the Trident code because it is through Microsoft. This all seems very obvious. Several other languages are cited on the WebKit.org website. What of them?


 * I am eager to read your response. Maybe you know a great amount about web browser programming?


 * By the way, is "Codename Lisa" a reference to the Apple Lisa computer, or to something else, such as your name?


 * Thank you again. Good day. --Jerryobject (talk) 07:55, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi.


 * Short answer is "No". All components of a program need not be in the same programming language. (If you think about it, it is obvious. All Windows programs use Windows API, which is written in C. But almost no app is written in C.) I've used Delphi to develop an Internet Explorer shell myself because Trident is a simple ActiveX control. (Mind you, Maxthon does not include Trident; it just uses it because it has been part of Windows since Windows 98.) WebKit is not that easy but it is convenient, because its source code is available. Maxthon developers can simply compile the WebKit DLLs and link them in their project.


 * As for Codename Lisa, it is the codename of Linux Mint version 12. When I joined Wikipedia, it was the latest version. I added "Codename" to my username to ensure no one thinks "Lisa" to be my first name.


 * Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 10:28, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

IVSYS
I noticed that you explicated IVSYS as "Iverson System (IVSYS)" in both the Kenneth E. Iverson and Eugene McDonnell pages. I think that is inaccurate historically. That system, in its brief existence, was called IVSYS, and there is only one published reference to it as "IVSYS (for Iverson system)" (note the lower case in "system"). I am changing the text to say "IVSYS (for Iverson system)".

Calling it "Iverson System (IVSYS)" would be like calling APL "A Programming Language (APL)". In this case the "acronym" APL is the official name, the name everyone uses. Roger Hui (talk) 06:20, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * That sounds fine. I will not contest the issue. You have greater domain knowledge than I do. Please also check the main APL (programming language) article for this same issue of form. Also, be sure to read and understand WP:ABBR.


 * Thank you. Jerryobject (talk) 06:36, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Actual? Itself? Themselves? No!
I understand that you are not saying that every use of these words is useless verbal junk, but it is easy to construct sentences using these words where omitting them changes the meaning and tone. For example:


 * Calling the use of "itself" useless verbal junk is itself useless verbal junk. The sentiment seems clear-cut in the telling but problematic in the actual.

Tongue firmly in cheek. Roger Hui (talk) 06:45, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Agreed again, mostly. Cleverly recursive. Touché!


 * Speaking of APL, you seem to be a useful resource, possibly helpful. Do you know what type of license ELI has? I am adding that parameter to its infobox. I spent 10 minutes searching their website, but with no success.


 * Thank you. Jerryobject (talk) 07:01, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I copy edited my editor page comments on Actual-Itself-Themselves to greatly reduce their incompleteness, and the resulting ambiguity, so such a misunderstanding should not recur.


 * Thank you for alerting me to it. Jerryobject (talk) 07:51, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I only have slight knowledge of ELI. I suggest you contact the author, Wai-Mee Ching, for that information.  (Or the e-mail address in the "Contact Us" page.) Roger Hui (talk) 08:06, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Influences/Influenced
On the Eugene McDonnell page, you added "Kenneth E. Iverson" as one of the "Influences". I assume that means McDonnell was influenced by Iverson. I question the usefulness and helpfulness of this information, because in a very strong sense everyone who works with APL can be said to be to have Iverson as an influence. Should that field for every such person's page be filled in with "Kenneth E. Iverson"? I think it is enough that McDonnell appears in the "APL programming language" template. (I need to thank you for creating this nice template.)

Roger Hui (talk) 03:55, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the thanks editor Hui. You seem to be quite a catch as a Wikipedia editor. It is an honor to work with you.


 * You ask: "I assume that means McDonnell was influenced by Iverson."


 * Yes; in a deep, formal, academic, and scientific sense.


 * You ask: "Should that field for every such person's page be filled in with "Kenneth E. Iverson"?"


 * Yes, certainly for those who worked with or under him personally. Imagine your target reader as a curious high schooler, web crawling computer (e.g., Google, Siri, Bing), or AI researcher mining data for deep learning (e.g., Google, Apple, Microsoft), and the subject article with the infobox is the first article on that topic which they are seeing. Write for that.


 * The exact Wikipedia official policy for assigning influence credits in scientist infoboxes is found in the relevant parts, or section, of Template:Infobox scientist. Get to that page, and then search for the string (word) "influences". Hits 4 and 5 show the policy stated clearly.


 * I have been studying and thinking about doing this series of APL edits for over a year. Even a few years ago I noticed that the APL articles looked a bit forlorn and neglected, in some ways. Examples:


 * 1. APL is an old and important language, with more than enough APL-related Wikipedia articles to justify a navbox, but no navbox existed; said articles lacked one.


 * 2. Many articles on APL personal lacked infoboxes, or had the wrong type.


 * 3. Infobox parameters were missing.


 * 4. Official website templates were absent or underused.


 * I was hoping another editor would do the work, but that did not occur. So, I have begun fixing all of this, and will be finishing the rest in the next week or two.


 * APL is a very important programming language, more than even most programmers realize. The quality of related Wikipedia articles needs to be raised. I can do it. I have the time, writing and Wikipedia expertise, and a layman's interest in the topic.


 * Best wishes. --Jerryobject (talk) 08:24, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

I.P. Sharp Associates
I appreciate the work you are doing on the APL-related pages. However, please take more care with the edits to the I. P. Sharp Associates page. For example:


 * The Reuters acquisition took place in 1987, not 1887.
 * Dick Lathwell and Eric Iverson are not founders of IPSA.
 * IPSA had many more offices than 3 in 1982. (I am attempting to get an accurate count.  It's something like 40 in the early 1980s.)
 * IPSA was active not just in North America but in Europe, Asia, and Australia as well.

Roger Hui (talk) 03:56, 9 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Excellent! Wikipedia is working correctly: this is how the process is intended to work. I did my best, adding things that were not there before, and which were 98% correct, and then you read it and fixed the wrong 2%. Perfect.
 * The date goof was a pure typographic error. Sorry. I got a hundred tiny details correct. You caught my obvious clear error, as would most readers. Thank you.
 * The paragraph starting: "IPSA employed a team of expert ..." reads as if D. Lathwell and E. Iverson could be founders. Can you rewrite it a bit to remove that ambiguity, and maybe include some time reference(s), i.e., to what year or period (how long after founding?) does the paragraph refer?
 * The article did not state the number of IPSA offices. It documents only three: Toronto, Ottawa, and Palo Alto. I did my best. Now, you do your best. Also, we need to document such claims with references, preferably citations.
 * The article did not state all of the regions where IPSA was active. It documents only one: North America.
 * This is working very well. It would be fantastic if you would inspect the infoboxes, after I add them, for errors and possible improvements compliant with the Manual of Style.
 * Also, when working on Wikipedia articles and talk pages, whenever possible, editors should use Wiki markup (see: Help:Wikitext, Help:HTML in wikitext), not HTML.
 * Thank you for all of your hard work.
 * --Jerryobject (talk) 09:20, 9 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I have to tell you that I am disappointed in this attitude and approach, even if it is "official Wikipedia policy" or whatever. I myself would much prefer to exclude information not known to be correct, rather than include information not known to be incorrect.  (Isn't that what good journalism does?)  I only happened to read the IPSA page and only happen to have firsthand knowledge about IPSA, and only happened to notice the bad information.  I hate to think that the correctness of other Wikipedia pages depend on such happenstance.


 * In this case, following the references already cited would uncover the fact that IPSA was serving not just North America. (In the discussion on the network there is mention of a trans-Atlantic link, I believe.)  So it was possible even if not easy for a non-insider to uncover the better information.


 * I am going to blank out the bad information until I can get to putting in the good information. I have other commitments beside fixing up Wikipedia pages.


 * Thank you for getting the "98% correct". (I won't argue about the actual number. :-)


 * Roger Hui (talk) 15:56, 9 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The I. P. Sharp Associates page either in its current state, or in its previous state which from which you produced the current state, is far from doing justice to the topic. To do that would require a significant investment in time and effort.  At present, I myself am not able to make that investment because I have other higher priorities than Wikipedia (yes, there are such other things).  I myself would rather not do a partial job of it because it would give an even more misleading impression that the page is doing justice to the topic.  Sometimes, something is not better than nothing.


 * An example of where I did make the effort to provide good copy, is the Kenneth E. Iverson page. It took a significant chunk of my life when I did it in 2016, and still requires "maintenance" from time to time.


 * Roger Hui (talk) 20:00, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

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Your recent edits to various software articles consist of numerous markup adjustments (which are marginally helpful) and wording changes (which are not helpful). Specifically, your modified technical explanations change the semantic meaning of the text in a way that is frequently inaccurate.

For example, in PostgreSQL you wrote that ACID is a "standard", which is obviously false. In PyTorch you changed "computational graph", which is a generally accepted term of art, to "computing graph", which has no clear meaning. I didn't bother reverting your changes to PyTorch, as it should be instructive for you to go back and clean up the mess you made.

Changes like these, and many others, make it very hard to believe that you are actually a software expert, i.e. programmer. Please stop changing the meaning of software articles in incorrect ways.

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 * I am not a software expert or programmer. I make no such claim(s) anywhere that I am aware of. If you find any text that can be (mis)interpreted to seem as if I make any such claim(s), then notify me immediately, and I will alter such text to be far clearer and harder to misinterpret. I am an enthusiastic autodidact, and former part-time newspaper reporter, and low-hour volunteer teacher, who can think, read, write, and edit. That is all. When I make errors, notify me, as you have done, and I will fix them. --Jerryobject (talk) 05:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

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