User talk:Jim.henderson/archive 2

For matters before mid May 2007, see archive User talk:Jim.henderson/archive 1

I have to study how to make that archive direction work properly. Anyway, clean slate for those who want to tell me something. question - why do you keep deleting the facts on the main page of the high school? I think its completely relevant and only adds to the page. I would love to hear an argument how posting true informative facts about the institution detracts in anyway from a webpage that purports to be a source of knowledge. Jim.henderson 06:42, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

cycling
Hi there. Were you seriously intending to revert my edit or was it an accident? My adding of the -template was no vandalism, the section places far too much focus on the US. Thanks, Leo44 (talk) 17:05, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Oops! Yes, indeed my hasty knife cut too deep.  Yes, the paragraph about most popular types ought to be expanded with a sentence or two about other countries.  Or perhaps better, cut out and replaced by a more pointed pointer to a hardware article.  My hopes are not great that the tag will bring about either of these desires, but surely it won't do any harm.  Jim.henderson 20:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Bell system
The Bell System Template covers the entire bell system not just the part that a given company owns and it makes it easier to navigate through the articles. In my opinion The verizon and at&t/sbc templates have fluff in them that should be trimmed out likewise the bell system template could use an overhaul itself. (Ke5crz 05:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC))


 * Good proposal, for someone who cleans templates. While awaiting that treatment, they can be omitted from most articles and replaced by links to appropriate articles.  Jim.henderson 23:36, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

About Pupin
Hi! You said that Britannica says that Pupin was born in 1858. Why don't you see articles on other languages (especially Serbian)? By the way, Serbian post issued a stamp in 2004 in honour of 150th anniversary of his birth. Alexzr88 16:33, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Oops! Forgot to reply.  No, I read no languages except English, Spanish and a little French.  Thus, when I saw an unexplained date change, I checked with my best resource, and found only a basis for the 1858 date.  Jim.henderson 15:25, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Inmarsat
Jim, have you worked at Inmarsat in London? Cuddlyable3 12:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * No. New York Telephone (Verizon) my whole life.  Jim.henderson 04:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you Jim. Cuddlyable3 08:20, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

NYC Meetup
jim.henderson

I guess unless you've categorize yourself as a Wikipedian in some NYC borough, then this invite wouldn't have wound up on your (virtual) doorstep. Here it is. Pass it on to anyone you think might have missed it and who should have gotten it. It's Sunday, 12 August 2007 from 3:00 p.m. Central Park. Lawn near Delacort Theatre, I believe.

Wikipedia New York Meet-Up

 * Howdy! Please come to the First Annual New York Wikipedian Central Park Picnic. R.S.V.P. @ Meetup/NYC --David Shankbone 14:21, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Take care — Gosgood 16:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops! Forgot to answer!  As it happens I'm scheduled to report to my workshop at 4 PM that day, but will probably hand off that assignment to another mechanic, giving me the chance to meet my fellow Wikinerds.  Thank you.  Jim.henderson 15:26, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Saying Hello
Looks like we make the same edits on the same batch of articles. Just saying hi --Guyver8400 17:41, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure; always nice to run into the same good workers. This is one of the cases where I was chasing a vandal; sometimes it turns out that the articles they are interested in trashing are the ones I take an interest in improving.


 * Southern Brooklyn is an interesting area, though I have never lived there. Decades ago I knew a fellow in Sheepshead Bay, and a few years ago cheered at kid soccer games in Gerritsen Beach when the Prospect Park fields were closed for refurbishing, and sometimes I turn inland at Canarsie Piers while bicycling home from the Rockaways, and two weeks ago I biked to Coney Island, but basically I know little of the area.  Anyway it is pleasant to see that you have been working these neighborhood articles and I hope you can do more good work linking neighbor articles, Congressional Districts, Police Precincts, Community Boards, Brooklyn Wards and so forth.  Also hope to see you in Central Park August 19.  Jim.henderson 12:07, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Reason for categories
I tried to explain in the edit summaries, but here's the long version, hopefully easier to understand:

The Category:Nassau County, New York was two pages long and full of articles about train stations, schools, local fire departments, etc. that (it seems to me) are extremely unlikely to be of interest to anyone not close by. Because there were so many articles in the category, it was more difficult to navigate through it to find the article someone was interested in. So I started doing several things (which I've also done for all the counties in Connecticut and started doing for Westchester County and Suffolk County). I created the Category:Transportation in Nassau County, New York and added to the Category:Education in Nassau County, New York and tried to create more local categories that people would be interested in.

I moved no articles about localities out of Nassau because (so far) I think they're the most useful links (the articles tend to link to all the articles with a relationship to that locality, few other types of articles tend to do that). Also, Nassau is a geographic area and a government, which is a lot like the localities within it.

With only those articles, the Nassau category is still liable to go to two pages, which I think makes it much more difficult for readers to navigate through.

For Category:Great Neck Peninsula there are several articles that might never have been seen in the Nassau category by someone browsing who is interested in that area. And I seriously wonder whether people interested in Nassau as a whole is going to be interested in the youth center that's now in the Great Neck category, for instance.

Ideally, every article about a subject located in Nassau County should be in some local category like Great Neck Peninsula as well as in some subject or topical category. That's the way I did it in Category:Fairfield County, Connecticut, and I think it makes navigation extremely easy. Please tell me what you think.

Incidentally, I'm not from Nassau County, and I only made the Category:Great Neck Peninsula page because I saw on the Great Neck, New York page that there is a sense of community among the villages on the peninsula. Noroton 01:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * All right; I'll put this discussion on the talk page for Category:Nassau County, New York because that's what it's about and other editors can see it there. Jim.henderson 02:44, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Road Bike
Added an external link to list of manufacturers of road bikes. As a road biker, this is helpful information and the type of information that you can find external links to all over wikipedia. The list was the result of much research as well as the input of many road bikers adding information. Please consider reversing your deletion. Respectfully, Eliasone


 * Well, the first problem is that yesterday's edit was anonymous. It's hard to believe a user who hasn't got an account is sincere.  True, the majority of anonymous edits are useful or at least not bad, but most linkspam and other bad edits are anonymous.  Then there's the site, this Eosphere, which is flashy and looks much more like a kid site for goofing around than a serious source of information.  Anyway, now that you've got an account and an argument, I'll revert my reversion for a few days.  What you should do, however, now that you're trying to be taken seriously, is put a serious list of roadbike makers right into Wikipedia.  It can be a section of Road bicycle, a subcat of Category:Cycle manufacturers, a section of List of bicycle manufacturers, or elsewhere in the encyclopedia.
 * Making an encyclopedia is a lot of work. It isn't just knowing something and putting it in.  You have to organize the knowledge, fix the bad parts, connect the good parts together, watch out for people who don't understand what they are doing and otherwise tend it like a garden.  Jim.henderson 03:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Telecommunications categories
...mmh, you are right, it is not very good now. I will think about it. Just wanted to let you know, that I read your message. best regards NoGringo 18:03, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Great, that you liked the changes :-). I already feared to do something wrong. I now started the next country category: Category:Broadband Internet access by country. I think by that, I undid some of your moves to "Communications in X". I found some countries to have that content in "Internet in X". So I thought the best is to create new articles. Hope you like that one too. And for the Barnstar - maybe one can just copy a barnstar from someone else and change the text? You, could be the one to initialise my user page :-) NoGringo 17:35, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you can have a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Telecommunications/Categories - NoGringo 17:41, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

restoring deprecated, about-to-be-deleted infobox
On the article Camp Hero State Park, you just restored the highly-inappropriate infobox band in place of the equally inappropriate infobox musical artist. I can almost see your reasons, except for the fact that infobox band is scheduled to be deleted within the next couple of days (and there was a fairly prominent tag at the top of the article which should have let you know that). Your reversion was about to result in a much worse mess than what you were trying to clean up. I've temporarily removed the infobox completely, replacing it simply with a framed image including caption, which really seems like all that was necessary or desired. Since you seem to have a bit of an interest in the article, you might want to see if you can track down a more appropriate infobox to use on the article, but please do not, under any circumstances, restore the band or musical artist infobox to this not-music-related article. Thanks, Xtifr tälk 22:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC) Rudolf Hertz Before you go reverting deleted quotes (rudolf hertz) check the discussion page. Show a prop[er source for that quote. It is plain silly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.103.224.91 (talk) 21:54, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Did I see you on t.v.?
Hi Jim. I always enjoy seeing your edits. I saw a Jim Henderson on the LTV, community access television in East Hampton this week. Was that you? Americasroof 15:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and yours too, but I haven't been in the Hamptons since summer of '06, nor on television since, umm, almost exactly 50 years before that. However, I expect to spend a weekend there either late this month or early next.  If you see a grey beard pedalling a Brompton Bicycle with small wheels, yell "Hey Jim!" and we can dine together or something.  Maybe by then I'll buy a camera to take pictures of the Camp Hero gun emplacements. Jim.henderson 01:17, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It was a two episode interview too! When are you coming out east? I live in nyc and weekend in east hampton.  Americasroof 11:22, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably I'll find out Wednesday whether my next Montauk vist will be the immediately following weekend or the one after that. Meanwhile we could meet some afternoon in Worldwide Plaza, Pier 84, Clinton Park, Tenth Avenue Library, whatever.
 * Jim.henderson 21:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

No, my plans to visit relatives in the Hamptons in September fell through because the date of my invitation falls on a weekend I must work. October, good chance. Jim.henderson 01:59, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * This weekend. I'll be going to Montauk by automobile Saturday and returning to Hell's Kitchen Monday.  Jim.henderson 20:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Jim send me an email. Americasroof 14:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Nope. Not this weekend; someone got sick, so I'm not going anywhere except maybe half a day in New Jersey or The Bronx or similar local gardens of delight. Jim.henderson 03:04, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

New York City Meetup
The agenda for the next meetup includes the formation of a Wikimedia New York City local chapter. Hope to see you there!--Pharos 20:28, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Help Everyone And Permanently Shutdown the Revenue Assurance Page Instead of Tinkering With It
Jim, your edits of the revenue assurance page have, so far, been superficial. To date I have not tried to engage you directly on this topic because you make no claim to knowledge of the area and seem to be a genuine guy. But I think now you are being genuinely unhelpful. You allowed someone to remove all external references to independent bodies, then insert a self-promotional reference to themselves, and thought nothing of it. You reverted to a page which I have gone to some pains is full of bias and self-promotion, but have not decided to do anything about that bias or the self-promotion. Time and again the page has been used for advertising which you lack the sensitivity and knowledge to identify out. Your previous calls for fair play via the talk page have been ignored. Jimmysmith1966 used a genuine attempt to engage in debate as an excuse to purge all references that disagreed with his own. He then acted in a way consistent with other spammers and made added some other superficial and spurious references to mask this. Please advise what more evidence you need to see before concluding this page is in a terminal condition: unable to cite verifiable external sources that everyone can agree on? Diogenes the Cynic 16:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Signalling (telecommunications)
Hi - I changed the "Sources" subheading to a "See also" subheading to unify the style of this article with other articles. The items in the list are internal articles. It makes sense that they be included as related articles.

Your edit summary for the change back to "Sources" states that those articles "say nothing about signaling". If this is true, maybe it would be prudent to remove them. E_dog95'  Hi ' 07:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll reply in more detail in the article's talk page later today, but Federal Standard 1037C and MIL-STD-188 are basically dictionaries, thus their Wikipedia articles don't discuss specific items defined in the dictionaries. The idea of a "Sources" section is to say where the article originated, which for a great many little articles is these dictionaries.  Jim.henderson 15:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for filling in all the blanks. E_dog95'   Hi ' 03:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

What do you know about electrification?
I am interested in your knowledge and experience of railway electrification, as you have recently made a number of edits to articles on this subject. This is a highly specialized subject, so I wanted to know that you had the skills to make the edits that you did.Catlows Cat 15:07, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

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Could you look at this?
This is something I'm hoping you can help with. E_dog95'  Hi ' 00:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Natural History Museum of the Adirondacks
Did you merge this article with 'The Wild Center' article? The name of the museum is Natural History Museum of the Adirondacks, the 'wild center' thing is merely a marketing campaign. I would appreciate it if you would change the title of the article back to Natural History Museum of the Adirondacks. Thank You. Duke53 | Talk 18:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Glad to help, but as seen in I have long agreed with you and made the change you suggest.  Others disagree with us and moved it to a long and clumsy name.  If you can dissuade or defeat them, very good but it's a matter in which I lack the patience for a fight.  Jim.henderson (talk) 18:39, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Do you know who merged the two articles? I thought that it was you. Thanks. Duke53  | Talk 18:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I merged TWC into NHMA, thinking it only one place needing one article, with the latter name alone being the correct one. Someone else thought NHMA alone was too short, and lengthened the name to TWC/NHMA, which I think ridiculous.  Right or wrong, with one, two or three articles, or three, six or ten names on one article, I shan't dispute further, this not being my neighborhood or topic of great interest.  Make it what you will; revert my changes if you disagree; I'm done trying to set others straight in this matter.  Jim.henderson (talk) 21:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The problem here is that I do not know how to change the article's title to Natural History Museum of the Adirondacks; any help would be appreciated. Duke53  | Talk 00:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Pleather
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Two Categories to check out with your new camera...

 * Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in New York City
 * Category:Wikipedia requested photographs

Have fun! dm (talk) 03:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Template.
Jim, you recently added a deletion template to my userpage. I'm afraid there seemed to be no need for such edit, and I think you should re read the deletion page before acting.

"Pages with an incorrect name can simply be renamed via page movement procedure. Disputes over the name are discussed on the talk page, or listed at requested moves.

The message in the deletion template also didn't make full sense. You should have been more clear why you at least made the deletion template. "Lovely, but not a notable person".

Regards, Surplu TalkToMe!  00:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * At the time, it wasn't a userpage. It was an ordinary article, same as an article about a famous person.  Nice to see that it has been moved rather than deleted.  Jim.henderson (talk) 00:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * "At the time, it wasn't a userpage. It was an ordinary article, same as an article about a famous person." If you included that in the deletion template, things would have been much more clear, and maybe this conversation wouldn't have broken out.

Thanks for your co-operation. Regards, Surplu TalkToMe!  12:07, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Battle of Newtown
Joseph Brant was not the leader of the Iroquois at the Battle of Newtown. Joseph Brant was a war chief and he was at Newtown, but there were two other Iroquois war chiefs at Newtown equal to or more senior than Brant; Sayenqueraghta and Cornplanter. BradMajors (talk) 20:49, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I'm grateful to anyone who gets his facts straighter than me. I was long under the impression that the "Cow Killer" slur stemmed from this battle, but see in Red Jacket that the incident was alleged to have taken place the previous year.  Any chance that the article is off by a year?  Jim.henderson (talk) 19:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * You are correct "cow killer" happened in 1779. I have fixed the article. Sloppy work on my part. BradMajors (talk) 02:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Pleasant as it is to have detected a tiny error in my betters, I intend to keep in mind that you are one of the two most precise workers on such questions. Jim.henderson (talk) 02:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
  Blessed editing, and...  Happy Holidays from   Marlith    T / C Credits: This card was inspired by Macy's  123, assistant of  V's Shop       Marlith   T / C  00:43, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

International Telephone Signalling
Jim. I have had a hack at your SS5 information but made the mistake of briefly describing C4 and R2 as well.

I used to be a Lecturer in the British Post Office Training School for International Switching and used to know all about these things (c. 30 years ago). When I find time I will join Wiki properly and contribute to some of these areas.

Happy New Year 2008

Ken G. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.36.252 (talk) 11:32, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

About Post road
You recently added Tōkaidō (road) to the post road page. I recently removed it because it does not fit within the scope of the article. I understand that the English translation of the Tōkaidō describes it as a "postal road;" however, it was not built for the transportation of postal mail. "Postal road" is not an accurate description for it. It was built for travelers heading to and from Edo. I want to again delete the info about the Tōkaidō from the article, but I don't want to get in an edit war, so I wanted to discuss with you first. Please let me know your thoughts. Douggers (talk) 01:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I think a few more examples ought to be found; after all a post road in 18th century English tradition is rarely one made just for that purpose; rather it is usually one taken under the wing of the postal authorities. However, I don't have the references for any of this, so I shall revert the item myself. Thank you. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:49, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for removing it. I realize not all roads were established just for mail, but I've never read anything about the transportation of mail along the Tokaido. I hope other examples can be found! Douggers (talk) 02:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

You're invited!
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Heinrich Hertz
Please consider re-visiting Talk:Heinrich Hertz. I'd be interested in your feedback about the suggested edit strategy I've proposed. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 15:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Redirect to Concentric zone model
thanks for redirecting. I was wondering how it was all best carried out. I'll do that next time I merge. SuzanneKn (talk) 18:46, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the procedure is well summarized in Merge but most of us learn by looking over the shoulder of editors more experienced at a particular type of action. Yesterday I learned a valuable trick at Talk:Grand Army Plaza.  Jim.henderson (talk) 18:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hardware Information Navigational Tool (HINT)
As it stands, this is basically a spam page. It's my old employer, so I don't like being ruthless, but I'm about to be. Do you know of any third-party sources about this thing?Kww (talk) 16:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope. I would prefer to cut it down to what little could fit a strict notion of NPOV, but lack the topical knowledge to do that, so whatever you think right, do. The 5ess switch parts sure look like, umm, exaggeration of importance.  The rest, I am less qualified to judge.  Jim.henderson (talk) 19:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I Have a Question
Why did you remove the pizzeria catergory from the Grimaldi's Pizzeria page? I know that you gave an explation in your edit summary but I didn't understand it. Could you explain it to me?--Fantastic fred (talk) 20:51, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Grandparental categories. Categories have parent cats and, often, child cats.  Those parent cats have parents of their own, and child cats may have children of their own to take care of details.  There are many thousands of pizzerias and putting all of them in Category:pizzerias wouldn't help much in finding them.  Instead, that category has a child Category:Pizzerias by country which has a child Category:Pizzerias of the United States which has a child Category:Pizza chains of the United States which has Grimaldi's Pizzeria.


 * An article that belongs in a child category, generally does not belong in that cat's parent categories, grandparents, great-grandparents, great-great or whatever since the children are taking care of the article and readers who seek more can pull the chain of categories to find them. Parental categories should have, besides their child cats, articles that don't belong to any of those child cats.  There are exceptions, but as far as I see, that lovely little pizzeria at which I ate the summer before last isn't one of them.


 * You might want to consider Category:Actors as an example. It wouldn't do much good if it directly included everyone who ever worked in that trade, would it?  Instead, it has child cats for various kinds of actors.  Jim.henderson (talk) 21:52, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot. You've been very helpful.--Fantastic fred (talk) 15:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:145stbridge.JPG
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 * Thanks. I labelled my picture properly last week and forgot to reply here.  Jim.henderson (talk) 02:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Bethesda Terrace
Nice fountain shot! --Wetman (talk) 18:13, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Network interface device
I was hoping you could help me on this page. It's become a copy-edit war with someone who just doesn't want to believe that NIUs are loopable, and he first removes my references, and then says that the statements are not referenced. I tried to clean this up as best I could, but I'm still too green to Wiki, and to be honest, I have no desire to spend much more effort, especially if someone is just going to come buy and revert everything. So any help would be appreciated. Ozzy 98 (talk) 19:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Minor point, new discussions belong on the bottom of a talk page. Article talk, personal talk, any Wiki discussion page.  Not a problem; it was one of many things I was getting wrong as a beginner, many months ago.  Alas, the more important point is, I know little of the topic, being an old switch guy having somewhat limited experience with loopback and practically no knowledge of NID, so I can't say which docs reflect or do not reflect practice or are even accurate.  Like to help, but I'm afraid you must study how these disputes are handled.  Hmm, that's a cold way of saying it.  I'll look up some of the help pages and list them here later, but mainly we talk them to death on the article talk page.
 * Also I must rid this excessively large personal talk page of obsolete discussions. Plenty of chores to do.  Incidentally, disputes are why I seldom look at a page the same day it arrives on my watchlist or the day after.  Waiting a few days, most wp:edit wars and other disputes get settled or at least cool off before I look.  I'm no Wikepedia policeman; those people really have to stay cool in their work to earn their badge or whatever.  Jim.henderson (talk) 02:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Category:Wireless
Hi Jim. I nominated Category:Wireless for merge with Category:Wireless communications. I see now that You had the opposite idea some months ago, but decided against it. Would You care to join the discussion on Categories for discussion/Log/2008 February 13? I find that there is too much confusion with regard to Category:Wireless and Category:Mobile. – Leo Laursen – ☏ ⌘ 17:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)